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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 08 2011 08:02 GMT
#16661
I completely disagree, Swain has an amazing animation. My very first game ever playing as him I got 80 lasthits by 10 minutes and his animation made perfect sense.


AKA I'm 1400 because I'm 20 cs behind where I should be.

Soraka beats Annie in attack animation every day.


I put that hurt on with mah crit bananas
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 08 2011 08:03 GMT
#16662
guys corki has the hardest animation
farming with corki is nigh impossible i have yet to break 600 cs in a 30 minute game yet
it's like
how can i farm all these fucking creeps
none of my skills do damage to them
and i don't have true damage tacked onto my attack to give me a little leeway
basically fuck corki i would rather have soraka's animation with -10 range than have to suffer trying to farm with corki
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
June 08 2011 08:05 GMT
#16663
On June 08 2011 16:03 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 08:21 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.


Get some AD runes if you're missing it too often.



terrible advice. if you're looking to get better, do it properly. Don't crutch on runes that will gimp you overall.

the only advice i can give you is to time your attacks to hit right after your own minions, instead of trying to last hit by watching bars."1 more hit from a minion then i kill" is a good approach imo. just err on the side of "it definately wont' die to the next minion hit" - mostly because your own autoattack is usually twice as strong.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 08 2011 08:09 GMT
#16664
Do what Numbers says.

Open a fucking practice game and go last hitting by yourself. If you feel confident, move on to Co-op. At least the bots there will harass you if you come into last hit range. Then graduate to normal games.

Seems stupid as fuck (not to mention tedious) but if you can't last hit, you obviously need more practice. It's just a mechanical skill you need to be "good".
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#16665
When i change latencies/fps/lag/etc my last hitting skills drop drastically, idk if anyone has had the same results by changing computers/where you play.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
June 08 2011 08:55 GMT
#16666
On June 08 2011 17:05 Kaneh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 16:03 BluzMan wrote:
On June 08 2011 08:21 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.


Get some AD runes if you're missing it too often.



terrible advice. if you're looking to get better, do it properly. Don't crutch on runes that will gimp you overall.

the only advice i can give you is to time your attacks to hit right after your own minions, instead of trying to last hit by watching bars."1 more hit from a minion then i kill" is a good approach imo. just err on the side of "it definately wont' die to the next minion hit" - mostly because your own autoattack is usually twice as strong.


You're terrible. Ask people why they're buying Wraith Bands in DotA on agi heroes and not saving that gold for their Butterfly. You will be much more gimped from being underfarmed than from having sup-optimal runes/early game items. Enjoy the game here and now and maximize your playstyle's efficiency. It's the basics, really, what's better - doing the "right" stuff and losing all the time or doing the "wrong" stuff and winning? You can't do everything perfectly anyway, so why count on it?
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 08 2011 09:02 GMT
#16667
just try to learn to last hit without runes
there are runes that are better meant for those spots
and once you roll with them it'll be harder to learn without them
:)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 08 2011 09:05 GMT
#16668
On June 08 2011 17:55 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 17:05 Kaneh wrote:
On June 08 2011 16:03 BluzMan wrote:
On June 08 2011 08:21 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.


Get some AD runes if you're missing it too often.



terrible advice. if you're looking to get better, do it properly. Don't crutch on runes that will gimp you overall.

the only advice i can give you is to time your attacks to hit right after your own minions, instead of trying to last hit by watching bars."1 more hit from a minion then i kill" is a good approach imo. just err on the side of "it definately wont' die to the next minion hit" - mostly because your own autoattack is usually twice as strong.


You're terrible. Ask people why they're buying Wraith Bands in DotA on agi heroes and not saving that gold for their Butterfly. You will be much more gimped from being underfarmed than from having sup-optimal runes/early game items. Enjoy the game here and now and maximize your playstyle's efficiency. It's the basics, really, what's better - doing the "right" stuff and losing all the time or doing the "wrong" stuff and winning? You can't do everything perfectly anyway, so why count on it?

Now I really have never played DotA, so I am just going to assume that this Wraith Band increases your attack damage and thus makes it easier to last hit.
Well, DotA has this fancy dynamic called "deny". If you hit for more damage than your opponent, you are much less likely to get denied because you can take the lasthit earlier than him.
LoL doesn't have this. You are only competing with your own minions. Sure you can increase the duration that a minion is in "lasthittable" HP range for you. But this advantage is not nearly worth as much as the advantage you would get in DotA from outdamaging your opponent.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 08 2011 09:07 GMT
#16669
On June 08 2011 17:55 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 17:05 Kaneh wrote:
On June 08 2011 16:03 BluzMan wrote:
On June 08 2011 08:21 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.


Get some AD runes if you're missing it too often.



terrible advice. if you're looking to get better, do it properly. Don't crutch on runes that will gimp you overall.

the only advice i can give you is to time your attacks to hit right after your own minions, instead of trying to last hit by watching bars."1 more hit from a minion then i kill" is a good approach imo. just err on the side of "it definately wont' die to the next minion hit" - mostly because your own autoattack is usually twice as strong.


You're terrible. Ask people why they're buying Wraith Bands in DotA on agi heroes and not saving that gold for their Butterfly. You will be much more gimped from being underfarmed than from having sup-optimal runes/early game items. Enjoy the game here and now and maximize your playstyle's efficiency. It's the basics, really, what's better - doing the "right" stuff and losing all the time or doing the "wrong" stuff and winning? You can't do everything perfectly anyway, so why count on it?

well the difference is that wraith bands in dota give a bit of hp/mp that help. not just the damage. the difference is that in LoL, the slots for AD runes will often be better served by putting apen/mpen/armor/mres/health/etc... instead of AD.

much better to learn w/out AD runes imo
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
June 08 2011 09:47 GMT
#16670
lol....i use ad quints on all my carrys :3
its for the early game umph moreso than the cs help~
i wish riot would give me better ping
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 08 2011 10:32 GMT
#16671
i dont think it matters riot has made champions that are ez mode farming for everyone that still thinks poppy is not broken or overpowered

xin zhao= ez
mf = ez
trundle = ez
karma = ez
renekton = ez
jarvan = ez
vayne = ez
orianna = ez
urgot = ez
swain -well this ones a bit tricky
hell they even made alistar easier to farm with
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 08 2011 11:08 GMT
#16672
Ez mode farming?
Galio, even though nothing else about him is Ez mode.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
June 08 2011 11:17 GMT
#16673
On June 08 2011 19:32 Caller wrote:
i dont think it matters riot has made champions that are ez mode farming for everyone that still thinks poppy is not broken or overpowered

xin zhao= ez
mf = ez
trundle = ez
karma = ez
renekton = ez
jarvan = ez
vayne = ez
orianna = ez
urgot = ez
swain -well this ones a bit tricky
hell they even made alistar easier to farm with

You forgot vlad and his hidden passive that replaces his autoattack with Q from lvl 9 onwards
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
June 08 2011 13:45 GMT
#16674
Ugh, so much Eve and Vlad QQ on the official forums.

Can people not learn to deal with it?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
June 08 2011 14:07 GMT
#16675
On June 08 2011 22:45 57 Corvette wrote:
Ugh, so much Eve and Vlad QQ on the official forums.

Can people not learn to deal with it?

Is that a trick question?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
June 08 2011 14:26 GMT
#16676
On June 08 2011 22:45 57 Corvette wrote:
Ugh, so much Eve and Vlad QQ on the official forums.

Can people not learn to deal with it?


Especially with Eve, the thing is I dont want to deal with her, I want my normal wards to see that ganker coming. Unfun champion.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
June 08 2011 14:44 GMT
#16677
On June 07 2011 22:56 Argoneus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:49 Goshawk. wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:45 Argoneus wrote:
Lvl 30 EU player looking for good players to play with / talk with etc. Any volunteer so I can add you and we can play occasionally?


Join the LiquidParty chat room.

I'm there all the time, but I rarely find anyone to play with.


Games used to happen more often before retards QQed about getting invited.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 08 2011 14:56 GMT
#16678
On June 08 2011 23:44 cascades wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:56 Argoneus wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:49 Goshawk. wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:45 Argoneus wrote:
Lvl 30 EU player looking for good players to play with / talk with etc. Any volunteer so I can add you and we can play occasionally?


Join the LiquidParty chat room.

I'm there all the time, but I rarely find anyone to play with.


Games used to happen more often before retards QQed about getting invited.

It's hilarious how people idle in the channel, don't talk anything and complain about getting invited.

Why are they in the channel?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 08 2011 15:09 GMT
#16679
Are there any awesome (or does anyone know any awesome) 8 bit artists that would be able to make a few sprites for me?
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
June 08 2011 15:14 GMT
#16680
Alright guys, I have just made an account that will have <10 leaves at lv30
IGN: Enigmatic Legend
:D
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