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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 08 2011 15:19 GMT
#16681
to anyone who streams or even just wants to be able to alt-tab around without minimizing lol:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=816970

^shit's so cash, holy shit, can't believe I've played without that for so long.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 08 2011 16:04 GMT
#16682
^ wow.. what a boss.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 16:47:08
June 08 2011 16:46 GMT
#16683
On June 08 2011 23:56 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 23:44 cascades wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:56 Argoneus wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:49 Goshawk. wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:45 Argoneus wrote:
Lvl 30 EU player looking for good players to play with / talk with etc. Any volunteer so I can add you and we can play occasionally?


Join the LiquidParty chat room.

I'm there all the time, but I rarely find anyone to play with.


Games used to happen more often before retards QQed about getting invited.

It's hilarious how people idle in the channel, don't talk anything and complain about getting invited.

Why are they in the channel?

They are just lonely, that's all.
It's funnier when people whine about sc2 discussions saying it's a lol channel and not sc related lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 08 2011 16:52 GMT
#16684
I liked it better when this thread turned into a SSB discussion. Talk about not lol related.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 08 2011 17:08 GMT
#16685
On June 09 2011 01:52 Two_DoWn wrote:
I liked it better when this thread turned into a SSB discussion. Talk about not lol related.

new SSB announced for the next Nintendo console + 3DS. it's so hard to be excited after brawl though =\.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
mrgerry
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1508 Posts
June 08 2011 17:13 GMT
#16686
Honestly last hitting will come along as you play more. So just keep having fun with LoL and you will learn better skills like "WHAT SHOULD I BE DOING IN THIS SITUATION?". Unless of course you are singed then "Hit ghost - R always live".
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#16687
On June 09 2011 02:13 mrgerry wrote:
Honestly last hitting will come along as you play more. So just keep having fun with LoL and you will learn better skills like "WHAT SHOULD I BE DOING IN THIS SITUATION?". Unless of course you are singed then "Hit ghost - R always live".

^

so true. so often my advice to people who think they're stuck at an elo is to just keep playing because they need to develop their fundamentals via experience.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 08 2011 17:33 GMT
#16688
it's probably a good thing that i went to my friends house and he explained last hitting and and unlocked camera to me or i probably still wouldn't get it.
and QWER, I didn't know about that until 5 games in, lol. And items too, for like my first 10 games I just didn't get items cause I didn't know what to get.
This probably sounds retarded but keep in mind the serious gaming I had been doing prior was playing Yooyuball on neopets
:)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 08 2011 17:35 GMT
#16689
On a related yet unrelated note, are people interested in replays using the LoLReplays proggy? I'm not particularly high level anymore but I could toss replays up :x
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 08 2011 17:36 GMT
#16690
On June 09 2011 02:35 Southlight wrote:
On a related yet unrelated note, are people interested in replays using the LoLReplays proggy? I'm not particularly high level anymore but I could toss replays up :x

If you have any funny/interesting games pls upload. High skill ones I prefer to just watch on stream but a funny game is always good to watch
:)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
June 08 2011 17:38 GMT
#16691
I find that last hitting itself isnt all that hard. After a while you start to understand how fast minions take damage and when you need to click. The harder aspect is positioning. You see HSGG or jiji clicking seemingly randomly behind minions, but always getting in positions for hits. Knowing where you need to be for that timed hit is more important than just clicking when a minion is nearly dead.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
June 08 2011 17:47 GMT
#16692
On June 09 2011 02:33 unichan wrote:
it's probably a good thing that i went to my friends house and he explained last hitting and and unlocked camera to me or i probably still wouldn't get it.
and QWER, I didn't know about that until 5 games in, lol. And items too, for like my first 10 games I just didn't get items cause I didn't know what to get.
This probably sounds retarded but keep in mind the serious gaming I had been doing prior was playing Yooyuball on neopets


Im about to uninstall. gj unibro
FADC
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 08 2011 18:36 GMT
#16693
Kinda related sidenote: You don't have to be very good at lasthitting to make it into the top 1% in LoL. Ok my most played champ is Janna who doesn't farm anyways, but I can play Ashe at 1900 elo and be fairly bad at lasthitting (partly due to high ping, partly because I AM quite bad at lasthitting) and still do well.

Improving map awareness, game sense and especially leadership skills will bring you up in elo much faster than working on your mechanics.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 19:48:28
June 08 2011 19:47 GMT
#16694
On June 08 2011 17:02 dnastyx wrote:
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I completely disagree, Swain has an amazing animation. My very first game ever playing as him I got 80 lasthits by 10 minutes and his animation made perfect sense.


AKA I'm 1400 because I'm 20 cs behind where I should be.


elementz at 10min 36, hotshotgg at 10min 62 on swain

But ok keep getting 100 lasthits by 10mins
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 19:55:55
June 08 2011 19:49 GMT
#16695
On June 09 2011 04:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 17:02 dnastyx wrote:
I completely disagree, Swain has an amazing animation. My very first game ever playing as him I got 80 lasthits by 10 minutes and his animation made perfect sense.


AKA I'm 1400 because I'm 20 cs behind where I should be.


elementz at 10min 36, hotshotgg at 10min 62 on swain

But ok keep getting 100 lasthits by 10mins


I beat westrice 1v1 before. I must be dreamhack material.

edit: I can't believe people were comparing reasons to get AD runes to DotA. The 2 games are completely different considering you can't deny in LoL.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 19:51:31
June 08 2011 19:50 GMT
#16696
On June 09 2011 04:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 17:02 dnastyx wrote:
I completely disagree, Swain has an amazing animation. My very first game ever playing as him I got 80 lasthits by 10 minutes and his animation made perfect sense.


AKA I'm 1400 because I'm 20 cs behind where I should be.


elementz at 10min 36, hotshotgg at 10min 62 on swain

But ok keep getting 100 lasthits by 10mins

i could get 120 last hits by 10 mins if i was playing coop vs ai like you did

i mean 1400 eu elo, although i think the former is harder

its obviously harder to last hit in higher elos even if ur mechanics are better because people actually do things in lane, not afk let you farm
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 20:12:24
June 08 2011 20:12 GMT
#16697
On June 09 2011 02:47 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 02:33 unichan wrote:
it's probably a good thing that i went to my friends house and he explained last hitting and and unlocked camera to me or i probably still wouldn't get it.
and QWER, I didn't know about that until 5 games in, lol. And items too, for like my first 10 games I just didn't get items cause I didn't know what to get.
This probably sounds retarded but keep in mind the serious gaming I had been doing prior was playing Yooyuball on neopets


Im about to uninstall. gj unibro

<3 u too
OH i should tell u about how i would shoot bindings and pool towers too (morgana)
:)
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 08 2011 20:43 GMT
#16698
On June 09 2011 03:36 spinesheath wrote:
Kinda related sidenote: You don't have to be very good at lasthitting to make it into the top 1% in LoL. Ok my most played champ is Janna who doesn't farm anyways, but I can play Ashe at 1900 elo and be fairly bad at lasthitting (partly due to high ping, partly because I AM quite bad at lasthitting) and still do well.

Improving map awareness, game sense and especially leadership skills will bring you up in elo much faster than working on your mechanics.


wow literally for the first time ever i agree with Spine's Heat H.
knowing the basics of last-hitting (i.e. that you only get the gold if you get the last hit, the general window of when to attack to last-hit for your champ, and the idea of pushing the enemy off creeps so they can't last-hit) is enough to carry you pretty far. map awareness, not blind tunneling trying to get more creeps, and knowing when to push your lane versus hold your lane versus let the enemy laner push is much more important than ensuring that you get every last hit
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 08 2011 20:45 GMT
#16699
On June 08 2011 17:55 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 17:05 Kaneh wrote:
On June 08 2011 16:03 BluzMan wrote:
On June 08 2011 08:21 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.


Get some AD runes if you're missing it too often.



terrible advice. if you're looking to get better, do it properly. Don't crutch on runes that will gimp you overall.

the only advice i can give you is to time your attacks to hit right after your own minions, instead of trying to last hit by watching bars."1 more hit from a minion then i kill" is a good approach imo. just err on the side of "it definately wont' die to the next minion hit" - mostly because your own autoattack is usually twice as strong.


You're terrible. Ask people why they're buying Wraith Bands in DotA on agi heroes and not saving that gold for their Butterfly. You will be much more gimped from being underfarmed than from having sup-optimal runes/early game items. Enjoy the game here and now and maximize your playstyle's efficiency. It's the basics, really, what's better - doing the "right" stuff and losing all the time or doing the "wrong" stuff and winning? You can't do everything perfectly anyway, so why count on it?

That's a terrible analogy. Wraith Bands are an all-around early-game item that gives HP and mana. They're good short-term not just for last-hitting but for lane control and small engagements as well. They're more comparable to DBlades.

Using AD runes is more equivalent to starting the game with Blades of Attack instead of branches, circlets, or Slippers of Agility.

As a side note, what DotA carries even get Butterfly? It was all BKB and Manta the last time I played.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 21:41:46
June 08 2011 21:33 GMT
#16700
On June 09 2011 05:43 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 03:36 spinesheath wrote:
Kinda related sidenote: You don't have to be very good at lasthitting to make it into the top 1% in LoL. Ok my most played champ is Janna who doesn't farm anyways, but I can play Ashe at 1900 elo and be fairly bad at lasthitting (partly due to high ping, partly because I AM quite bad at lasthitting) and still do well.

Improving map awareness, game sense and especially leadership skills will bring you up in elo much faster than working on your mechanics.


wow literally for the first time ever i agree with Spine's Heat H.
knowing the basics of last-hitting (i.e. that you only get the gold if you get the last hit, the general window of when to attack to last-hit for your champ, and the idea of pushing the enemy off creeps so they can't last-hit) is enough to carry you pretty far. map awareness, not blind tunneling trying to get more creeps, and knowing when to push your lane versus hold your lane versus let the enemy laner push is much more important than ensuring that you get every last hit


its actually took me a long time to get used to watching 'pro' streamers not having pretty much every single creep be either a deny or lasthit

i remember waay back when hotshot was the only one streaming and i was pulling my hair out at every creep he missed, as well as all the creeps his opponent missed. ive mellowed out a lot more recently tho....

edit: as far as ad runes go, ill chip in my 2 cents and say that if you really want ad runes, and i think they help a lot for auto attacking champs as well as any champs with magic-dmg skills that scale with ad. The really important thing about ad runes tho (i think loco also said something like this) is that u have to use those runes to put a lot of pressure on in the early levels, since thats the only time they give you much of an edge in the game.
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