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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 07 2011 20:25 GMT
#16621
it's because nunu's ult does more damage the longer he channels it and he can cancel it early for less damage (so if someone else cancels it early it does the same amount of damage as if he canceled it himself at the time)
and i thought that was how galio worked too
idk though lol
:)
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 07 2011 20:28 GMT
#16622
galio's works the same as nunu's in that respect. I would know, I mained Galio on old school team liquid and then missed a game changing flash ult and quit competitive LoL for months because of it :p.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 07 2011 20:37 GMT
#16623
On June 08 2011 04:56 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 00:09 unichan wrote:
On June 07 2011 23:42 Shiragaku wrote:
Are tanks no longer that viable in LoL anymore? According to Elementz, they are not picked that often due to a support/AD being more viable.

Yeah, you often see a tanky dps (Irel, Jarman) picked instead of a tank. Teams are running four squishes + one tanky char instead of 1 squishy + 4 tanky chars. This is probably why players like wale are able to dominate with akali again.

Sure, if you call Vlad and Swain 'squishies'.
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 03:37 Dead9 wrote:
Hi, I just started playing LoL recently (after a lot of hon and dota) and I have a few questions
1. How do you stop channeling spells like Galio/Nunu's ulti? Do silence/stuns/knockups all work?
2. When said channeling spells are stopped, do their effects still go off? So will Nunu/Galio ulti still shoot off an aoe nuke after I silence them or is it just completely cancelled?
3. How many creep kills per minute should I be aiming for? Assuming I'm middle or hard carry or something, or does it depend heavily on the game?
4. I'm red-green colorblind so I can't tell the difference between the opposing health bars ( ), is there any way to change them?
5. Is there any way to change the hotkeys?

1. I believe all those work, but spells that only move them won't (Alistar's Headbutt for instance). Taunts and suppression effects (stun + can't use summoner spells + duration not affected by Tenacity) will always work too.
2. Some channeled spells have over-time effects as they channel (Katarina's Death Lotus, Fiddlestick's Drain, Janna's ult's heal), but a few others have the entire effect at the end (Fiddlestick's ult, Nunu's ult, Galio's ult). Of this latter kind, Nunu's ult is the only one that has a partial effect (rather than none) if you or an enemy interrupts the channel before it's complete.
3. If you're on "free-farm" mode (no one's preventing you from farming), 10-12 minions per minute. Otherwise, you may well get less than that because you're too low and are forced to go back to base & heal, or you have to skip a last hit or two to prevent getting harassed too hard, etc.
4. Don't know.
5. Don't just change the hotkeys, explore smartcasting. I currently have Q as smartcastspell1, W as smartcastspell2, etc. and Shift+Q as castspell1, Shift+W as castspell2, etc. For some retarded reason you can't set Shift+Q etc. as hotkeys for standard casting of spells in-game, so you need to mess around with all those hotkeys first (change them to anything), this will create an Input file that you can then edit to your heart's content at:
C:/Riot Games/League of Legends/RADS/solutions/lol_game_client_sln/releases/0.0.0.55/deploy/DATA/CFG


Speaking of which, is there a way to toggle smartcast ingame? I'd love to have normal version on QWER, then press like Capslock, have them all smartcast, press Capslock again and have the normal version.

Anyone know what to put into the CFG file to make it this way?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 07 2011 20:45 GMT
#16624
Nunu's ult damage goes up in something similar to an exponential growth (very low if canceled early, quickly growing at the end).

Galio's ult always has a base damage (at least if he gets to actually start it, I think you have like .1 second to cancel it and it will do 0 damage but I might be wrong), and then it basically grows linearly with the number of attacks he takes up to a certain limit. After that you can cancel it and deal full damage.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
June 07 2011 20:58 GMT
#16625
On June 08 2011 05:28 Mogwai wrote:
galio's works the same as nunu's in that respect. I would know, I mained Galio on old school team liquid and then missed a game changing flash ult and quit competitive LoL for months because of it :p.


no it doesn't ?????
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#16626
someone go verify it. I'm like 99% sure it did damage when Xin would 3 Talon you out a second into it, and they never changed it, right?
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
June 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#16627
you don't do less damage

and you can get full damage easily in a second so you don't need the full channel

ezpz
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
June 07 2011 21:13 GMT
#16628
On June 08 2011 06:04 Yiruru wrote:
you don't do less damage

and you can get full damage easily in a second so you don't need the full channel

ezpz


I thought the zero channel but still deal full damage thing was a bug that they removed.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 07 2011 21:33 GMT
#16629
On June 08 2011 06:01 Mogwai wrote:
someone go verify it. I'm like 99% sure it did damage when Xin would 3 Talon you out a second into it, and they never changed it, right?

Ok, just tested it. If you turn on Galio's ult and then cancel it immediately, it will deal full damage.

If you turn on Galio's ult and an enemy champion interrupts it immediately, it will also deal full damage.
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
June 07 2011 21:36 GMT
#16630
WTF WHY IS MY EU NORMALS ELO SO HIGH :/

Just got queued against yellowpete and 4x 1800 elo people, wtf is wrong? On US i just play vs other 1400 elo baddies
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
June 07 2011 21:49 GMT
#16631
On June 08 2011 06:36 Kaniol wrote:
WTF WHY IS MY EU NORMALS ELO SO HIGH :/

Just got queued against yellowpete and 4x 1800 elo people, wtf is wrong? On US i just play vs other 1400 elo baddies

this proves it
1800 eu = 1400 us
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 07 2011 22:00 GMT
#16632
On June 08 2011 06:49 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:36 Kaniol wrote:
WTF WHY IS MY EU NORMALS ELO SO HIGH :/

Just got queued against yellowpete and 4x 1800 elo people, wtf is wrong? On US i just play vs other 1400 elo baddies

this proves it
1800 eu = 1400 us

RIIIIGHT. 1900 US = 1750 EU.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 07 2011 22:06 GMT
#16633
On June 08 2011 06:04 Yiruru wrote:
you don't do less damage

and you can get full damage easily in a second so you don't need the full channel

ezpz

oh, i meant in the same respect that it will deal damage if cancelled. the growth scale is different since nunu's scales with time and galio's scales with times hit.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 07 2011 22:16 GMT
#16634
Thanks for the fast replies!
I can't seem to install this colorblind healthbars though; I'm pretty sure I don't have a heropak_client.zip.
I really can't tell the difference between allies and enemies
Also, is there any way to change keybinds without being in a game?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 07 2011 22:26 GMT
#16635
On June 08 2011 07:16 Dead9 wrote:
Also, is there any way to change keybinds without being in a game?

Just create a custom game without any opponents to do the settings there, there is no other way.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 23:09:13
June 07 2011 22:42 GMT
#16636
On June 08 2011 07:00 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:49 Caller wrote:
On June 08 2011 06:36 Kaniol wrote:
WTF WHY IS MY EU NORMALS ELO SO HIGH :/

Just got queued against yellowpete and 4x 1800 elo people, wtf is wrong? On US i just play vs other 1400 elo baddies

this proves it
1800 eu = 1400 us

RIIIIGHT. 1900 US = 1750 EU.

Stop denying the science! You purposely tanked your EU elo

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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
June 07 2011 23:21 GMT
#16637
Is there a good method to tighten up my early-game/pre-item last hitting? I've run practice games with no bots and stuff like that but I find that a lot of the time I am just barely missing some last hits; and by some I mean sometimes I "barely miss" an entire wave's worth of CS. Repeatedly. I can't quite feel out that sweet spot between "1 more hit from a minion then I kill" and "minions already killed it," I guess.
Do you guys left click on individual minions to track their HP? I've thought about doing that but I don't think I can split my attention well enough to do that while watching minimap/not walking straight into enemy tower.

I mean I can just play Janna and stack philos (what I end up doing most of the time huehue) or AoE spam creep waves down later on, but I am pretty sure that isn't a long-term solution.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
June 07 2011 23:30 GMT
#16638
u gotta feel it man
:)
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 07 2011 23:35 GMT
#16639
Just turn on the health bars, and then watch the rate at which it decreases, and then hit when you think you will kill. Alternatively, you can track HP, but that's not as practical in terms of multitasking.
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Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
June 07 2011 23:46 GMT
#16640
You have healthbars on right? I think the most important part of last hitting is knowing how quickly an enemy minion's health is going to decrease, that is, how many of your minions are targeting each enemy minion individually.

The other half of it is getting a handle on each champion individually. Lasthitting on Soraka or Morgana is wildly different than lasthitting on Ashe or Caitlyn.
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