On April 26 2011 11:05 Two_DoWn wrote: How do you not use exaust more than 3 times? It literally is the best offensive teamfighting spell in the game.
I have no excuse, I am a complete noob with summoner spell timings, and I often miss ignite/exaust. The only real time I remember to use it is during the first blood fight at bottom bush.
o,o I completely missed the two posts above mine on the previous page. Yeah, i'm a noob. I should probably be respecting the advice being given to me, not being the devil's advocate.
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote: And why would I run smite on AP Galio?
Because Smite is just that good on TT.
How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?
Also, if you are trolling me you are succeeding.
stealing buff creep from enemy, you see them killing it, you last hit with your smite because it does more damage than their attack(unless they have smite too, then its battle of smites)
Yeah it would be useful for stealing buffs if there was a ward at lizard, but only 1% of the players at my level of play buy wards after 2 mins. And those 1% of players basically carry their entire team even if your two allies are morons.
then buy wards
put them at lizard
and you will have a ward at lizard...
On April 26 2011 09:39 TheYango wrote: Nunu's early game strength is counterbalanced by the fact that his late-game presence is heavily reliant on one of two things happening:
1) He gets fed 2) His AD carry gets fed
If neither of these happen significantly, he becomes a slow-bot that does mediocre damage and provides a moderate-but-not-gamebreaking steroid to his AD carry.
i don't agree, he's a sick supporter... yeah if your carry is retarded he doesn't do that much but the same is true of janna and zil. blood boil isn't really mediocre it's insane
EDIT: napkin math, it gives about the same gold worth of stats as janna shield... a little less I think, 100 maybe 200 less
Does anyone else not really get what the hell rumble actually is? He looks like a mage dps like morde or swain. But late game he seemed to not actually be doing any damage with his spells.
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote: And why would I run smite on AP Galio?
Because Smite is just that good on TT.
How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?
Also, if you are trolling me you are succeeding.
stealing buff creep from enemy, you see them killing it, you last hit with your smite because it does more damage than their attack(unless they have smite too, then its battle of smites)
Yeah it would be useful for stealing buffs if there was a ward at lizard, but only 1% of the players at my level of play buy wards after 2 mins. And those 1% of players basically carry their entire team even if your two allies are morons.
On April 26 2011 09:39 TheYango wrote: Nunu's early game strength is counterbalanced by the fact that his late-game presence is heavily reliant on one of two things happening:
1) He gets fed 2) His AD carry gets fed
If neither of these happen significantly, he becomes a slow-bot that does mediocre damage and provides a moderate-but-not-gamebreaking steroid to his AD carry.
i don't agree, he's a sick supporter... yeah if your carry is retarded he doesn't do that much but the same is true of janna and zil. blood boil isn't really mediocre it's insane
EDIT: napkin math, it gives about the same gold worth of stats as janna shield... a little less I think, 100 maybe 200 less
Not to discredit Janna or anything, but movespeed and attack speed steroid is generally a lot more valuable to a carry than AD steroid, because of they way they are built (i.edge + lw), which makes bloodboil superior to janna's shield imo.
Btw, bloodboiling superminion is OP.
Also, wtf that flamespitter skill looks OP. So much damage and you can move while doing it?
Yet apparently heartseeker strike has to be nerfed and nerfed and nerfed.
bloodboil = 2124 gold worth of stats on the carry (+the same on you but the stats are weaker for you of course. movespeed calculated off zeal) eye of the storm = 2452 gold worth of stats
On April 26 2011 12:32 UniversalSnip wrote: calculator math:
bloodboil = 2124 gold worth of stats on the carry (+the same on you but the stats are weaker for you of course. movespeed calculated off zeal) eye of the storm = 2452 gold worth of stats
hmm that's odd, I've always felt that bloodboil was much better than eye of the storm late game. maybe it's because you're carry's getting focused so the shield pops pretty quickly when janna has <1 cs?
On April 26 2011 12:32 UniversalSnip wrote: calculator math:
bloodboil = 2124 gold worth of stats on the carry (+the same on you but the stats are weaker for you of course. movespeed calculated off zeal) eye of the storm = 2452 gold worth of stats
hmm that's odd, I've always felt that bloodboil was much better than eye of the storm late game. maybe it's because you're carry's getting focused so the shield pops pretty quickly when janna has <1 cs?
It lasts for like 50 times the amount and aspd is alot more efficient than dmg after a while. Just like blood boil would be pretty useless for a teemo with bloodrazor, wits end and malady.
EDIT: WOW I carried the sickest game with Suicide karthus. Was like 29-20 and team scores like 45-80 in opponents favor. Last teamfight i had 1100 ap with void and said POP THEIR VEILS and then when i saw 3 ppls veils disappear ulti -> quad -> aced -> won lololol
Not sure where to type this. But I'm in the middle of writing my paper for mid term and I'm talking about Alex Williams "Buying into the Green Movement" and I typed: "I like how Williams describes, quite humorously, what the average day of a rich, fashionable “green” consumer might be. Waking up in the mornin, gotta grab his cereal, an get out to decide in his car which seat he should take."
God. Fucking. Dammit. I wasn't even aware I was trolling my own paper until I start re-reading it for spelling errors.
It's hard to quantify gold value for that. If Janna's fragile shield pops = no more bonus AD. Pokes/outfront damage will be higher with shield, but the aspeed/movespeed buff allows easier kiting as well as hightens dps substantially when allowed to outright autoattack for a few seconds. It also doesn't disappear from a single poke back at you.
All I know is janna, ashe, anivia, nunu setups are op.
EPT
