On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".
Yes, it is. When people see easy to kill carries, they tunnel, and then give up their sprees.
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Except that you try not to die at all unless you are teamfighting. There is no point in feeding hundreds of gold just to be worth 200 gold less when you die AGAIN. Plus you will still pick up plenty of kills, which resets you to 300 gold for a kill.
The idea is that Karthus deals retarded amounts of damage while he is in the middle of a fight, but he is very squishy. By going revive/tele together with his passive you can deal that insane amount of damage recklessly in fights where it matters. Don't think that just because you run revive/tele on Karth it is fine to die for something other than a Dragon/Baron/Tower/Inhib/large killing spree/Oracles in some cases.
On April 27 2011 00:32 0123456789 wrote: Revive karthus does not work vs people with brains.
Sooooo what you are saying is that this is the #1 solo queue game winning strat since 99% of solo queue is braindead.
On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".
Yes, it is. When people see easy to kill carries, they tunnel, and then give up their sprees.
My friend did it on a friend's account, it worked up til like 1700-1800 elo from 1500 when he got like 5 straight losses or something with it. Maybe this indicates that people at that elo begin to have brains
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
You solo push lanes nonstop and suicide while damaging towers and farming minions still while dead etc. If opponent comes for you with only 1 person you can just about always trade kills, and if they come with more your team can accomplish something elsewhere and you're back in 15mins anyway. The point is to die many times so your deaths only are worth 90 gold and your allies or you can pick up kill streak bonus gold etc.
You also farm and level insanely fast doing this, like lvl 18 at 20-22min is pretty normal and you'll have totally insane farm as well.
It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.
In the lategame you'll have insane farm and items and that's when you save your revive/teleport. You rambo into a teamfight, get killed, spam stuff for the 8sec you're dead dealing insane dmg, then revive/teleport into the fight and clean up.
Im not sure if it works at the highest elos but the idea is clear.
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote: Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much
Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.
Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Except that you try not to die at all unless you are teamfighting. There is no point in feeding hundreds of gold just to be worth 200 gold less when you die AGAIN. Plus you will still pick up plenty of kills, which resets you to 300 gold for a kill.
The idea is that Karthus deals retarded amounts of damage while he is in the middle of a fight, but he is very squishy. By going revive/tele together with his passive you can deal that insane amount of damage recklessly in fights where it matters. Don't think that just because you run revive/tele on Karth it is fine to die for something other than a Dragon/Baron/Tower/Inhib/large killing spree/Oracles in some cases.
You definitely can die just fine for half a towers hp + distracting 3 opponents so your team can do something useful + farming a full lane worth of minions. As I said you'll be lvl 18 with insane farm at 20-22min and if the opposing team will just run around after you again and again, they'll be both underleveled and underfarmed and you'll crush in teamfights with the suicide -> revivetp manouvre.
On April 27 2011 02:35 Shikyo wrote: It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.
Every time you pick up a kill (from ganks or your ult) you are reset to 300. Your allies can't get that much money out of killstreaks. Suiciding to drop your kill value is nonsense.
On April 27 2011 02:35 Shikyo wrote: It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.
Every time you pick up a kill (from ganks or your ult) you are reset to 300. Your allies can't get that much money out of killstreaks. Suiciding to drop your kill value is nonsense.
Yeah its just a side effect that happens if you do poorly, every trade you get is a win for you. As I said it's more about the megafarming.
EDIT: I'm not even sure if I said that. But yeah you don't TRY to die, but it doesn't matter if you die as long as your team capitalizes on the other side of the map.
Buy hero, then hero becomes free in exactly next week. Second time that happens hooray ^_^
Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.
On April 27 2011 03:26 Nikon wrote: Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.
It'd be pointless, seeing as item slows don't stack.
On April 27 2011 03:26 Nikon wrote: Buy hero, then hero becomes free in exactly next week. Second time that happens hooray ^_^
Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.
Only buy heroes just after the new rotation is out.
He has 2 slows already, I doubt he needs a slow on an item. Keep in mind that his autoattacks are melee, so you need defenses. Malady should work pretty well with his passive.