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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 26 2011 15:13 GMT
#13261
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.
Never Knows Best.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#13262
Revive karthus does not work vs people with brains.
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
April 26 2011 15:32 GMT
#13263
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 15:38:49
April 26 2011 15:37 GMT
#13264
On April 27 2011 00:32 0123456789 wrote:
Revive karthus does not work vs people with brains.


Sooooo what you are saying is that this is the #1 solo queue game winning strat since 99% of solo queue is braindead.

On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.


Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 15:40:17
April 26 2011 15:39 GMT
#13265
On April 27 2011 00:37 BloodNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:32 0123456789 wrote:
Revive karthus does not work vs people with brains.


Sooooo what you are saying is that this is the #1 solo queue game winning strat since 99% of solo queue is braindead.

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.


Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".



Yes, it is. When people see easy to kill carries, they tunnel, and then give up their sprees.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 15:41:47
April 26 2011 15:41 GMT
#13266
On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.


Except that you try not to die at all unless you are teamfighting. There is no point in feeding hundreds of gold just to be worth 200 gold less when you die AGAIN. Plus you will still pick up plenty of kills, which resets you to 300 gold for a kill.

The idea is that Karthus deals retarded amounts of damage while he is in the middle of a fight, but he is very squishy. By going revive/tele together with his passive you can deal that insane amount of damage recklessly in fights where it matters.
Don't think that just because you run revive/tele on Karth it is fine to die for something other than a Dragon/Baron/Tower/Inhib/large killing spree/Oracles in some cases.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
April 26 2011 15:50 GMT
#13267
Hmm I play karthus but I don't run him like that. Ill have to try it out sometime.
Never Knows Best.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 26 2011 16:35 GMT
#13268
Server will be up in 5-10 minutes according to Riot Udyr
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 16:36:09
April 26 2011 16:35 GMT
#13269
Servers are actually currently up.

There's already a small queue, so get in quick.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 26 2011 16:38 GMT
#13270
On April 26 2011 23:49 Chrispy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 20:56 spinesheath wrote:
On April 26 2011 19:52 Simple wrote:
theres a team liquid team? :O


Rofl Baron steal against Cho.


STFU.

For whatever reason (aka i'm a big newbie) I didn't think Cho's ult would do 1000 damage instead of the 600ish like it does to a champion.

LEAVE CHRISPY ALONE!!


Chrispy #1 Resident TL Cho Gath!
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 26 2011 16:39 GMT
#13271
Yeah, server is up and Rumble is 4800. Never gonna see a 3150 champ again
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 26 2011 16:41 GMT
#13272
On April 27 2011 01:39 Kaniol wrote:
Yeah, server is up and Rumble is 4800. Never gonna see a 3150 champ again

Just you wait, Riot might occasionally drop IP prices for a couple of champs now that they started doing that for 3 champs.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
April 26 2011 16:42 GMT
#13273
On April 27 2011 01:41 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 01:39 Kaniol wrote:
Yeah, server is up and Rumble is 4800. Never gonna see a 3150 champ again

Just you wait, Riot might occasionally drop IP prices for a couple of champs now that they started doing that for 3 champs.

But that's assuming that the champions with price dropped will be the ones i don't own
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 26 2011 17:32 GMT
#13274
On April 27 2011 00:39 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:37 BloodNinja wrote:
On April 27 2011 00:32 0123456789 wrote:
Revive karthus does not work vs people with brains.


Sooooo what you are saying is that this is the #1 solo queue game winning strat since 99% of solo queue is braindead.

On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.


Dont forget the death timer quints. The other popular name for this strat is "zombie karthus".



Yes, it is. When people see easy to kill carries, they tunnel, and then give up their sprees.


My friend did it on a friend's account, it worked up til like 1700-1800 elo from 1500 when he got like 5 straight losses or something with it. Maybe this indicates that people at that elo begin to have brains

LOLJK caseynelson is at that elo
:)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 17:37:49
April 26 2011 17:35 GMT
#13275
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

You solo push lanes nonstop and suicide while damaging towers and farming minions still while dead etc. If opponent comes for you with only 1 person you can just about always trade kills, and if they come with more your team can accomplish something elsewhere and you're back in 15mins anyway. The point is to die many times so your deaths only are worth 90 gold and your allies or you can pick up kill streak bonus gold etc.

You also farm and level insanely fast doing this, like lvl 18 at 20-22min is pretty normal and you'll have totally insane farm as well.

It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.

In the lategame you'll have insane farm and items and that's when you save your revive/teleport. You rambo into a teamfight, get killed, spam stuff for the 8sec you're dead dealing insane dmg, then revive/teleport into the fight and clean up.

Im not sure if it works at the highest elos but the idea is clear.

On April 27 2011 00:41 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:32 dismiss wrote:
On April 27 2011 00:13 Slaughter wrote:
On April 26 2011 12:04 Shikyo wrote:
Ok, protip: dont try revive karthus on a lvl 10 smurf. They won't get it even if you explain it 20 times. Even if you're doing it properly and are 8-18(highest kills in team by far) and have a million minions and most towers as well, they cant comprehend it. I was pushing bottom alone, 5 people gank me. I said "push mid" and they just sat at the mid tower, called me a moron, imbecile, retard, noob etc. I ran from the 5 people for like 30 seconds and died to the nexus obelisk so they didnt get gold, then my team is like "hahaha report fucking noob" in allchat still standing at our turret. They could have easily pushed 2 turrets while i distracted so much

Just unbelievable. I explained the strategy calmly like 10 times and ended up getting ignored by 3 of them.


Revive Karthus? I have heard of this but im not sure exactly what it entails. I assume its a way to get around the way he melts really fast and is usually one of the 1st to be targeted? And taking advantage of DD.

Basically you take revive and teleport, farm all day, die a couple of times so you are not worth gold anymore and when teamfights break out, you run right into their team, do a ton of damage, hope they focus you, do more damage and rezz about 20 seconds faster than anyone else.


Except that you try not to die at all unless you are teamfighting. There is no point in feeding hundreds of gold just to be worth 200 gold less when you die AGAIN. Plus you will still pick up plenty of kills, which resets you to 300 gold for a kill.

The idea is that Karthus deals retarded amounts of damage while he is in the middle of a fight, but he is very squishy. By going revive/tele together with his passive you can deal that insane amount of damage recklessly in fights where it matters.
Don't think that just because you run revive/tele on Karth it is fine to die for something other than a Dragon/Baron/Tower/Inhib/large killing spree/Oracles in some cases.
You definitely can die just fine for half a towers hp + distracting 3 opponents so your team can do something useful + farming a full lane worth of minions. As I said you'll be lvl 18 with insane farm at 20-22min and if the opposing team will just run around after you again and again, they'll be both underleveled and underfarmed and you'll crush in teamfights with the suicide -> revivetp manouvre.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 26 2011 17:49 GMT
#13276
On April 27 2011 02:35 Shikyo wrote:
It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.

Every time you pick up a kill (from ganks or your ult) you are reset to 300. Your allies can't get that much money out of killstreaks.
Suiciding to drop your kill value is nonsense.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 17:54:04
April 26 2011 17:52 GMT
#13277
On April 27 2011 02:49 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 02:35 Shikyo wrote:
It doesn't work if your team doesn't understand, but if you solo push the bottom lane with 5 mia and then they 5man gank you, your team can get 2 towers while you 1. damage a tower 2. farm minions 3. possibly take one of the gankers with you and you only give 90 gold.

Every time you pick up a kill (from ganks or your ult) you are reset to 300. Your allies can't get that much money out of killstreaks.
Suiciding to drop your kill value is nonsense.

Yeah its just a side effect that happens if you do poorly, every trade you get is a win for you. As I said it's more about the megafarming.

EDIT: I'm not even sure if I said that. But yeah you don't TRY to die, but it doesn't matter if you die as long as your team capitalizes on the other side of the map.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
April 26 2011 18:26 GMT
#13278
Buy hero, then hero becomes free in exactly next week. Second time that happens hooray ^_^

Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2011 18:28 GMT
#13279
On April 27 2011 03:26 Nikon wrote:
Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.

It'd be pointless, seeing as item slows don't stack.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 26 2011 18:33 GMT
#13280
On April 27 2011 03:26 Nikon wrote:
Buy hero, then hero becomes free in exactly next week. Second time that happens hooray ^_^

Now that is out of the way, I think that Rumble should build some sort of hybrid with GRB and Hextech Gunblade. His skillset really does lend to that, but the problem is: what else? Rylai's AND Frozen Mallet would be hilariously bad. And fun.

Only buy heroes just after the new rotation is out.

He has 2 slows already, I doubt he needs a slow on an item.
Keep in mind that his autoattacks are melee, so you need defenses.
Malady should work pretty well with his passive.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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