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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 00:42:36
April 26 2011 00:39 GMT
#13201
Nunu's early game strength is counterbalanced by the fact that his late-game presence is heavily reliant on one of two things happening:

1) He gets fed
2) His AD carry gets fed

If neither of these happen significantly, he becomes a slow-bot that does mediocre damage and provides a moderate-but-not-gamebreaking steroid to his AD carry.

Also, if your team ends up picking a weak jungler, you can compensate by picking a strong roamer. Amumu by himself is not really threatening in the jungle, but that doesn't mean that people are ok getting caught between him and Alistar on the wrong side of the jungle.
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SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 26 2011 00:59 GMT
#13202
Would it be feasible to ban Nunu with the Amumu first pick in mind, or would that be countered by a mummy ban? Or is this overthinking the solo queue bans/picks, and one should really stick to the usual Urgots,Shens, and whatthehellevers? I just thought of that in anticipation to the usual solo queue coordination. It's kinda easy to get almost unrecoverably counter jungled, if my team hardly even reacts to me fighting in the jungle.

If the above was just totally incoherent, it's my usual patch week anxiety for the patch notes - need my fix, not sleep. Also, stickman has peg legs now, hah. I like those new skins.
So zen.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2011 01:04 GMT
#13203
I actually think theres nothing wrong with banning stuff like Alistar and Nunu, noobs get crushed by that kind of champions
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
April 26 2011 01:14 GMT
#13204
Yeah, have your support pick up a ward. When you're about to do red, have the support stand in the tribush. The end.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 26 2011 01:14 GMT
#13205
Solo q must bans when playing with noobies

Shen, Zil, eve, noc, urgot, shaco
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 26 2011 01:23 GMT
#13206
Ban shaco just so no idiots on your team pick him
:)
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 26 2011 01:27 GMT
#13207
On April 26 2011 00:57 Shikyo wrote:


Watch this if you haven't seen it.


Lol, what a one-sided stomp fest.

I have been playing AP Galio in 3v3s, going Flash Clarity (because I like spamming Q for lasthits, against ranged lane opponents its risky to lasthit with AA). My first two items are Chalice and merc treads, but what should I be getting afterwards (and should i get opponent-dependant items now or later)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 01:45:10
April 26 2011 01:44 GMT
#13208
Clarity is bad in the first place in 5s, I'd REALLY advise not running it in 3s ESPECIALLY if your first item is a chalice.

Edit: Shouldn't one of your spells be smite?
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 01:50:20
April 26 2011 01:46 GMT
#13209
On April 26 2011 10:44 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Clarity is bad in the first place in 5s, I'd REALLY advise not running it in 3s ESPECIALLY if your first item is a chalice.

Edit: Shouldn't one of your spells be smite?


Maybe so, but it is the only summoner spell other than flash and teleport that I end up using more than 3 times during a game. Teleport on TT is kinda stupid considering how small the map is, and Galio without flash is like playing as a brick. Ignite and Exaust are good spells, but are situational, and sometimes only get used a few times while I am playing, and they leave me thinking "Damn, wish i didn't pick exaust(or ignite)".

And why would I run smite on AP Galio?
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
April 26 2011 01:49 GMT
#13210
I'd imagine exhaust and ignite are super wonderful spells to have on TT (I don't actually play)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2011 01:52 GMT
#13211
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote:
And why would I run smite on AP Galio?

Because Smite is just that good on TT.
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57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 26 2011 01:54 GMT
#13212
On April 26 2011 10:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote:
And why would I run smite on AP Galio?

Because Smite is just that good on TT.


How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?

Also, if you are trolling me you are succeeding.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 02:00:08
April 26 2011 01:59 GMT
#13213
iirc back when TT was played competitively, smite was limited to one per team.

Smite is just that good.

Edit: More in depth, whichever team has more smites = the only team to ever get red/dragon
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 26 2011 02:01 GMT
#13214
If your team has two smites, the other team will never get a buff if you play it correctly.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 02:03:08
April 26 2011 02:02 GMT
#13215
Yeah, but this isn't level 30 arranged team or anything, this is level 14/15 solo queue. Aka everyone is a noob (including me) and doesn't know how to co-ordinate.

(I will read your responses later, the Daily is on.)
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
April 26 2011 02:03 GMT
#13216
On April 26 2011 10:54 57 Corvette wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 10:52 TheYango wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote:
And why would I run smite on AP Galio?

Because Smite is just that good on TT.


How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?

Also, if you are trolling me you are succeeding.

stealing buff creep from enemy, you see them killing it, you last hit with your smite because it does more damage than their attack(unless they have smite too, then its battle of smites)
You can't milk those!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 02:05:52
April 26 2011 02:04 GMT
#13217
On April 26 2011 10:54 57 Corvette wrote:
How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?

You mean Lizard, Wolf, Wraith, and Dragon.

And yes, buffs are that crucial on TT.

On April 26 2011 11:02 57 Corvette wrote:
Yeah, but this isn't level 30 arranged team or anything, this is level 14/15 solo queue. Aka everyone is a noob (including me) and doesn't know how to co-ordinate.

(I will read your responses later, the Daily is on.)

All the more important then to secure buffs for your team, rather than having your teammates derp and risk them getting stolen by random spells/autoattacks.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 26 2011 02:04 GMT
#13218
On April 26 2011 11:02 57 Corvette wrote:
Yeah, but this isn't level 30 arranged team or anything, this is level 14/15 solo queue. Aka everyone is a noob (including me) and doesn't know how to co-ordinate.

(I will read your responses later, the Daily is on.)


good point, that's a good reason not to play in the most optimal way
excuses > improvement
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
April 26 2011 02:05 GMT
#13219
On April 26 2011 11:03 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 10:54 57 Corvette wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:52 TheYango wrote:
On April 26 2011 10:46 57 Corvette wrote:
And why would I run smite on AP Galio?

Because Smite is just that good on TT.


How so? Galio can't Jungle, and other than dragon, what use does smite have?

Also, if you are trolling me you are succeeding.

stealing buff creep from enemy, you see them killing it, you last hit with your smite because it does more damage than their attack(unless they have smite too, then its battle of smites)


Yeah it would be useful for stealing buffs if there was a ward at lizard, but only 1% of the players at my level of play buy wards after 2 mins. And those 1% of players basically carry their entire team even if your two allies are morons.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 26 2011 02:05 GMT
#13220
How do you not use exaust more than 3 times? It literally is the best offensive teamfighting spell in the game.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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