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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 25 2011 14:52 GMT
#13161
On April 25 2011 23:13 Thehummel wrote:
Could someone help me with general items buys and such? Because i'm slowly getting into LoL, and as a pretty good HoN/DotA player, the items are the thing i'm most puzzeld about.. Should i be getting the recommend items? Or is there a item there normally goes again on certain heroes ect. ect..

Any help would be appreciated

That depends, which champions are you playing?

Generally for AD champs you wanna get a BF sword for ranged, and build it into infinity edge or bloodthirster then a last whisper for arpen, and mostly melee champs will get a brutalizer => youmuus (sometimes ranged gets this too).
AP champs get catalyst first (usually), mana heavy champs will get tear of the goddess, then get rabadons deathcap.
Boots are situational, a lot of the time people get merc tread for the CC duration reduction, but for AD champ people get berserker greaves and for AP they get sorc/ionian shoes.
This is super general though, and is probably wrong since I am a bad player, but recommended items are probably OK to stick to until you learn more about each champ and look at guides and watch high elo streams and become sheep and copy their builds~
:)
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 15:07:26
April 25 2011 15:05 GMT
#13162
On April 25 2011 13:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I stopped playing cho because literally everyone shits all over him

DX Well why wouldn't people want to make sure he is useless for the entire game? Feast is the scariest thing in LoL. Whenever a Cho dives you and you have half HP, it feels like you just moved your entire dragoon army into a field of spider mines without an observer.

But pardon me if I misunderstood your quote, do you mean your team mates thing he is the most useless piece of shit around and prevent you from doing anything and blame you whenever something goes wrong?
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 25 2011 15:13 GMT
#13163
On April 25 2011 13:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I stopped playing cho because literally everyone shits all over him


For you 5hit. Since you abandoned Cho it seems Westrice took it up.

http://solomid.net/guides.php?g=740
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
April 25 2011 15:55 GMT
#13164
On April 25 2011 23:52 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 23:13 Thehummel wrote:
Could someone help me with general items buys and such? Because i'm slowly getting into LoL, and as a pretty good HoN/DotA player, the items are the thing i'm most puzzeld about.. Should i be getting the recommend items? Or is there a item there normally goes again on certain heroes ect. ect..

Any help would be appreciated

That depends, which champions are you playing?

Generally for AD champs you wanna get a BF sword for ranged, and build it into infinity edge or bloodthirster then a last whisper for arpen, and mostly melee champs will get a brutalizer => youmuus (sometimes ranged gets this too).
AP champs get catalyst first (usually), mana heavy champs will get tear of the goddess, then get rabadons deathcap.
Boots are situational, a lot of the time people get merc tread for the CC duration reduction, but for AD champ people get berserker greaves and for AP they get sorc/ionian shoes.
This is super general though, and is probably wrong since I am a bad player, but recommended items are probably OK to stick to until you learn more about each champ and look at guides and watch high elo streams and become sheep and copy their builds~


I'd add to that that mages usually don't get tears (only maybe anivia and karthus), and rush void staff followed by banshees veil right after deathcap. The only mage people that tend to get ionian boots are vlad and lux (who is supportish anyways), otherwise it's sorc 90% of the time.

But anyways build don't really matter if you are just starting, so many other things are more important.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 25 2011 15:57 GMT
#13165


Watch this if you haven't seen it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SQWKZ
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland720 Posts
April 25 2011 15:58 GMT
#13166
On April 26 2011 00:05 Shiragaku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 13:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I stopped playing cho because literally everyone shits all over him

DX Well why wouldn't people want to make sure he is useless for the entire game? Feast is the scariest thing in LoL. Whenever a Cho dives you and you have half HP, it feels like you just moved your entire dragoon army into a field of spider mines without an observer.

But pardon me if I misunderstood your quote, do you mean your team mates thing he is the most useless piece of shit around and prevent you from doing anything and blame you whenever something goes wrong?

Or it just means he just loses lanes with Cho now, because he's weak.
So zen.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 25 2011 16:27 GMT
#13167
On April 25 2011 23:51 Thehummel wrote:
Hmm.. Not really fan of just making the so-called "noob items" But is there really so many items that you cant really point out some of the better items.. Like a Geometers Bane/Manta Style is never bad for a Ranged Agi carry ect..?


Trinity Force is almost never bad for anyone who autoattacks and uses skills often. It's like the only item that is really broken at the moment, usable on almost anyone and core on many top-tier heroes. Rabadon's deathcap is the best item for mages, almost everything else is champion-dependent.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 16:34:34
April 25 2011 16:29 GMT
#13168
On April 25 2011 23:51 Thehummel wrote:
Hmm.. Not really fan of just making the so-called "noob items" But is there really so many items that you cant really point out some of the better items.. Like a Geometers Bane/Manta Style is never bad for a Ranged Agi carry ect..?

Generally the people who bitch at your "noob items" have worse builds than just the recommended items from left to right.

Some of the better items are:
- Merc Treads on tanky champs
- Infinity Edge into Last Whisper on a couple of ranged autoattackers
- Sorcerer's Shoes on casters
- Wriggles on most junglers

There aren't very many items that are always a good choice.

On April 26 2011 01:27 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 23:51 Thehummel wrote:
Hmm.. Not really fan of just making the so-called "noob items" But is there really so many items that you cant really point out some of the better items.. Like a Geometers Bane/Manta Style is never bad for a Ranged Agi carry ect..?


Trinity Force is almost never bad for anyone who autoattacks and uses skills often. It's like the only item that is really broken at the moment, usable on almost anyone and core on many top-tier heroes. Rabadon's deathcap is the best item for mages, almost everything else is champion-dependent.

IE has dethroned Triforce in terms of OPness imoimoimo.
Deathcap on Ryze?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 25 2011 16:51 GMT
#13169
Holyshit just went 16-3 with Cass vs a team of 1500-1700 elo ppl. o_O Maybe she can work... need to continue testing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 17:03:18
April 25 2011 17:02 GMT
#13170
On April 26 2011 01:29 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2011 23:51 Thehummel wrote:
Hmm.. Not really fan of just making the so-called "noob items" But is there really so many items that you cant really point out some of the better items.. Like a Geometers Bane/Manta Style is never bad for a Ranged Agi carry ect..?

Generally the people who bitch at your "noob items" have worse builds than just the recommended items from left to right.

Some of the better items are:
- Merc Treads on tanky champs
- Infinity Edge into Last Whisper on a couple of ranged autoattackers
- Sorcerer's Shoes on casters
- Wriggles on most junglers

There aren't very many items that are always a good choice.

Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 01:27 BluzMan wrote:
On April 25 2011 23:51 Thehummel wrote:
Hmm.. Not really fan of just making the so-called "noob items" But is there really so many items that you cant really point out some of the better items.. Like a Geometers Bane/Manta Style is never bad for a Ranged Agi carry ect..?


Trinity Force is almost never bad for anyone who autoattacks and uses skills often. It's like the only item that is really broken at the moment, usable on almost anyone and core on many top-tier heroes. Rabadon's deathcap is the best item for mages, almost everything else is champion-dependent.

IE has dethroned Triforce in terms of OPness imoimoimo.
Deathcap on Ryze?


No you dont want to rush deathcap on ryze. He would be one of the exceptions to the rush deathcap on mages rule. I believe it was pointed out there are exceptions to each of of these general buys.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 25 2011 18:19 GMT
#13171
Why garen so random fotm right nowww I see him in like every ranked game just cause he's free ~_~ wtff
:)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 25 2011 18:23 GMT
#13172
Hypnosiz has such a strange Cassiopeia build, Abyssal -> Deathcap -> Hourglass o-O
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 25 2011 18:49 GMT
#13173
On April 26 2011 03:19 unichan wrote:
Why garen so random fotm right nowww I see him in like every ranked game just cause he's free ~_~ wtff

That's how champs become fotm. You get a fairly underrated champ that becomes free and it'll be op the next week.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 25 2011 18:52 GMT
#13174
WAIT GAREN IS FREE??
It's SMURFIN' time!
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 25 2011 18:54 GMT
#13175
On April 26 2011 03:52 Tooplark wrote:
WAIT GAREN IS FREE??
It's SMURFIN' time!

You have til patch time today D;
:)
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-25 21:13:10
April 25 2011 21:12 GMT
#13176
In my last 20 premades with TL:

7 wins - 13 losses

In my last 15 soloQ games:

13 wins - 2 losses

coincidence?
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
April 25 2011 21:13 GMT
#13177
3 games, all of them hilarious. SUCCESS.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 25 2011 21:26 GMT
#13178
On April 26 2011 06:12 Juicyfruit wrote:
In my last 20 premades with TL:

7 wins - 13 losses

In my last 15 soloQ games:

13 wins - 2 losses

coincidence?


It seems TL enjoys trolling you too hard.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 25 2011 21:43 GMT
#13179
It's ELO police. They are tanking you.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 25 2011 21:49 GMT
#13180
Oh man it's funny to basically 1v5 a teamfight with cass by just spamming Q and W as they fight your allies / try chasing you and such. Allies don't even need to know how to play, just insane DoT and superb cleanup with E spam.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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