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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 20 2011 15:44 GMT
#12741
wtf? 9/0/21 only way to WW.
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unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
April 20 2011 16:55 GMT
#12742
On April 21 2011 00:06 57 Corvette wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=675636

Some of these picks fit the Champion perfectly (EG. Morde's songs), but others not so much (Nidalee)

Maybe we could come up with some ideas.

rofl @ dude (looks like a lady) for ezreal
:)
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#12743
Dsc goes 21 offense on all junglers so I must do the same.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#12744
Btw would a 25 apen 14% aspd be a good runesetup for jungle trynd?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 20 2011 17:18 GMT
#12745
probably
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
April 20 2011 17:28 GMT
#12746
spud recommended me to do 18 apen, 19% aspeed
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 17:37:41
April 20 2011 17:30 GMT
#12747
On April 20 2011 20:55 Shikyo wrote:
You keep thinking 21 in offense is useless, until I smite-steal you with my extra 5% dmg smite and you can't do anything about it.

Did not know this, so I went and tested it myself
[image loading]

It appears to only add 4% damage (like tenacity?) but works with both smite and reckless swing.

On April 21 2011 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
Btw would a 25 apen 14% aspd be a good runesetup for jungle trynd?

Optimal jungle speed (especially for tyrnd) is something like 10 armor pen (total) and the rest attack speed- any more armor pen and you're trading champion damage for jungle speed.

Edit: smite is doing 5% extra ((420 + 25) * 1.05 = 467.25)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2011 17:33 GMT
#12748
12 is optimal cuz you do true damage to little golems and wolves.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 20 2011 17:39 GMT
#12749
On April 20 2011 20:55 Shikyo wrote:
You keep thinking 21 in offense is useless, until I smite-steal you with my extra 5% dmg smite and you can't do anything about it.

Except when I line up Smite with a damage skill, the combined damage is more than your smite, even with Havoc.

Like, against someone who's wary of steals and lines up their Smite with other damage sources, that 5% damage will never be a deal-breaker. Either you'll be able to Smite in the split-second after their damage skill but before their Smite (in which case having Havoc won't matter because it'll be in the damage range of a normal Smite anyway), or you won't get the steal.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2011 17:44 GMT
#12750
SMite steal rarely lines up with numbers as well. More often than not it is a guess based on the rate of damage being done
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 20 2011 17:58 GMT
#12751
On April 21 2011 02:30 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 20:55 Shikyo wrote:
You keep thinking 21 in offense is useless, until I smite-steal you with my extra 5% dmg smite and you can't do anything about it.

Did not know this, so I went and tested it myself
[image loading]

It appears to only add 4% damage (like tenacity?) but works with both smite and reckless swing.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
Btw would a 25 apen 14% aspd be a good runesetup for jungle trynd?

Optimal jungle speed (especially for tyrnd) is something like 10 armor pen (total) and the rest attack speed- any more armor pen and you're trading champion damage for jungle speed.

Edit: smite is doing 5% extra ((420 + 25) * 1.05 = 467.25)

I know optimal jungle speed has 10 apen from runes(and this is because then you crit the small wraiths with 8 stacks at lvl 2 for 221 dmg and they have 220 hp) but apen is better lategame. Having full apen makes you kill blue wraiths in 2 non-crits though, not sure how useful that is. Oh and how is the comparison for killing buffmonsters?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
April 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#12752
So havoc works on madred razor (525 procs) so I can only assume it works on bloodrazor as well~
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
April 20 2011 19:35 GMT
#12753
On April 21 2011 03:25 Juicyfruit wrote:
So havoc works on madred razor (525 procs) so I can only assume it works on bloodrazor as well~


works on wits end too real op
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2011 19:37 GMT
#12754
DSC what is ur feeling on 21 offense for jungles?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
April 20 2011 19:39 GMT
#12755
On April 21 2011 02:01 HazMat wrote:
Dsc goes 21 offense on all junglers so I must do the same.

2035
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2011 19:40 GMT
#12756
No shit. Even mumu/nunu?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 19:42:32
April 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#12757
21 offense on amumu actually is legit. I've done it many times trolling but it actually has as even faster clear time than normal stuff like 1-14-15 or 1-8-21 and is a pretty safe run.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#12758
DSC is a real hero, he usually doesn't play pussy junglers that don't deal leet dps.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 20 2011 19:43 GMT
#12759
lol dsc, realllll trundling
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 20 2011 19:44 GMT
#12760
Neo, you'd know this. Does the offense minion damage mastery work on jungle creeps? I was under the impression that it did, but I have been told it does not well.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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