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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:17 mrgerry wrote: Really off-topic but I'm meeting with a Siew Wong. How would I pronounce Siew? Google couldn't help me out qq she-ow except faster also, xiao, shiow | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:17 mrgerry wrote: Really off-topic but I'm meeting with a Siew Wong. How would I pronounce Siew? Google couldn't help me out qq If they are Chinese, then Siew looks a lot like a Romanization of "Xiu," and any white guy that pronounces Xiu as "Siew" is trying hard enough as far as I'm concerned. Idk why people are suddenly devaluing cloth + 5pots as an opening, it's probably one of the most cost-efficient uses of 475 gold. The cloth armor serves the same purpose as the potions for me, to keep me alive and strong during early laning. Potions don't build into anything later either, but I chug em like gatorade. Then again these same players probably overvalued cloth+5 in the first place, so I suppose they'll be encouraged to try other openings. | ||
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freelander
Hungary4707 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:23 Flakes wrote: If they are Chinese, then Siew looks a lot like a Romanization of "Xiu," and any white guy that pronounces Xiu as "Siew" is trying hard enough as far as I'm concerned. they're singaporean brah so yeah they chinese | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On April 14 2011 13:34 Caphe wrote: Fuck, so I got to lv30 yesterday. Played my first ranked game with Annie. Go 3-0 first 20 mins while bot Jarvan was feeding. We lost with my 5/4/14 stats. Nonsense of the game people is everywhere I guess. I was like 8/0/12 in 20 minutes during my first 5 ranked games as annie :D. Everyone was really terrible. You should really be ganking the lane if someone is feeding there. Like going 0/8 doesn't mean you're the worst player in the world. 2 Early kills in lane absolutely fucks you and you're going to get dominated, you really need jungerl/mid lane to stop the bleed. Try going 0/3 intentionally in a normal and try to comeback easily. If you're sitting in lane feeding off 1 guy while your whole team suffers then its just bad play. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:23 Flakes wrote: Idk why people are suddenly devaluing cloth + 5pots as an opening, it's probably one of the most cost-efficient uses of 475 gold. The cloth armor serves the same purpose as the potions for me, to keep me alive and strong during early laning. Potions don't build into anything later either, but I chug em like gatorade. Then again these same players probably overvalued cloth+5 in the first place, so I suppose they'll be encouraged to try other openings. The thing about Cloth+5pot IMO is that if you're going to go all-out for laning, and not using the cloth for anything later, you may as well just go bead+6pot. Particularly since cloth's 2 main build paths are no longer that good (well, one is not really great for laners anymore and the other is nonexistent), I don't see why you'd start cloth except against lanes where you're 100% dealing with physical damage issues (Panth, Urgot, Renekton, etc.). | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On April 15 2011 04:31 TheYango wrote: The thing about Cloth+5pot IMO is that if you're going to go all-out for laning, and not using the cloth for anything later, you may as well just go bead+6pot. Particularly since cloth's 2 main build paths are no longer that good (well, one is not really great for laners anymore and the other is nonexistent), I don't see why you'd start cloth except against lanes where you're 100% dealing with physical damage issues (Panth, Urgot, Renekton, etc.). Save it for a Guardian Angel? That item is good on any carry vs physical damage. And I hope people arent going for cloth +5 vs a caster in lane without expecting to face a physical because that would be so.. dumb. Even so, assuming youre gonna keep that cloth armor the 18 is often used well one way or the other. Its better than dorans shield opening on most anyways | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On April 15 2011 02:34 Mogwai wrote: Wriggle's is still sprstrong IMO. ^ It's still #1 lifesteal item IMOIMO. 18% lifesteal with efficient damage and armor and wards is still crazy. 18% lifesteal = 675 gold worth of lifesteal 23 AD = 943 gold worth of AD 30 Armor = 500 gold worth of Armor over 2100 gold worth of item off of 1600 gold without even counting the wards. Assuming you use everything, the item is still batshit crazy efficiency. Assuming you get at least 4 wards out of it (lol), it's over 167% gold efficient. dblade on the other hand gives you 10 AD = 410 gold worth of AD 100 HP = 264 gold worth of HP 3% lifesteal = 113 gold worth of lifesteal ~165% gold efficient and it takes up more item slots to give similar midgame stats. *shrugs* I don't get why people just assumed it was killed for laners (especially ones who build more AD to take advantage of the extra lifesteal). | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Maybe it's just an irrational opinion I have. It's not that I think it lost a ton with the changes, but I wasn't a huge fan of Wriggles over Dblade stacking to begin with, and pretty much the only significant advantage I saw in Wriggles was the "oh look, I chain-procced 3 times and got a free HP pot" factor. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:53 Slayer91 wrote: Why is everyone so sad about getting aegis? (...) Because if every tanky jungler will go cloth first and then turn it into aegis and aegis becomes viable choice again Riot will nerf it for 13531500th time | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
Getting lots of hp pots will more often than not more than pay for its cost 'cause you can weather harassment better, last hit as much as you like, and maybe even zone the opposition- and now that cloth + 5x pots can't lead to HoG anymore, I guess elixirs are comparatively stronger. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On April 15 2011 05:08 TheYango wrote: The thing that's always bugged me about Wriggle's on laners is how much of a commitment it is. It's not that big of a deal on junglers because they tend to build smaller chunk items, but on a laner, when you start collecting Wriggle's parts, you're sort of committed to finishing it if you really want to make good on it's value. As such, DBlades seem nicer because if you end up doing well (get some good ganks into your lane/a tower) you can push up the schedule on your BF Sword/other big items by skipping the 2nd/3rd Dblades. With Wriggle's, if you've finished Razors, you feel sort of silly sitting on Razors, and then backing with 1800 gold for your BF Sword. Maybe it's just an irrational opinion I have. It's not that I think it lost a ton with the changes, but I wasn't a huge fan of Wriggles over Dblade stacking to begin with, and pretty much the only significant advantage I saw in Wriggles was the "oh look, I chain-procced 3 times and got a free HP pot" factor. no it's totally rational and I've made the same argument in threads about how d-blades are too strong back when you could open d-blade + pot. but I think the fact that you have no potion off of doran's has changed my mind on the whole matter because of how much I love cloth + 5 hp pots. Then again, I play melee guys who like that armor more than ranged guys, so that might also have something to do with it. | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
On April 15 2011 03:19 Caller wrote: she-ow except faster also, xiao, shiow Thanks you my best friend. Retire SpudParty --> Create ParkJAYHyuk Party | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
Bead openings don't make sense for bottom lane imo but they're quite usable for sololaning. And yeah, the Wriggles change really isn't that big a deal. 75 gold extra combine cost is peanuts, and yeah ok you don't quite lifesteal as much any more, but it averages out to only around 35 hp less lifestealing per 5 attacks (meaningless for junglers who are full HP anyway) so it's not a huge hit to an absurdly efficient item. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On April 15 2011 04:57 Iplaythings wrote: Save it for a Guardian Angel? That item is good on any carry vs physical damage. And I hope people arent going for cloth +5 vs a caster in lane without expecting to face a physical because that would be so.. dumb. Even so, assuming youre gonna keep that cloth armor the 18 is often used well one way or the other. Its better than dorans shield opening on most anyways Actually, if you can win your lane by running up to X caster and autoattacking him while you take less damage from minions because of cloth, then it might still be a good choice. I don't have a particular matchup in mind for this, and maybe there isn't one like this. Well I guess against Vlad it might give you that little bit of lasting power that you might need to push him off the minions... | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
EDIT: http://www.mediafire.com/?l1nfylnmvi7ju06 Pretty epic game. Yes, I know all the mistakes, all the mistakes I made. But game was pretty epic, it was IOV vs three members of XXX, me, and one guy from DOA. /discuss User was warned for this post Wow, warn for an ad. Real.... | ||
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