General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 60

On November 25 2010 05:45 Mogwai wrote:

you'll stop being happy about it when he becomes FotM and every asshole out there is playing/bannining him and you can't play him and when you do he gets hard countered by the new up-and-coming FotMs anyway and then your team just shits on you for only ending up 20 cs at 0/0 vs. fucking Malphite as Pantheon even though the matchup is 100% impossible and Malphite should literally always just kill you/force you off the lane after level 4...

On November 25 2010 05:49 r33k wrote:

Doesn't kogmaw still auto-nullify chogath? Now that kog is at the bottom of the hardcarry tier he isn't even banned anymore, so it's really easy to counterpick and punish your chogath...

On November 25 2010 08:44 Phrost wrote:


Not if they lane against each other. Cho can harass almost anyone out of lane while out csing them. Later game cho isnt that strong but his solo laning is obnoxious because of carnivore

I'd love to have had the game recorded to do commentary of it - but sadly fraps hurts my FPS and livestream doesn't have a delay so cheating is possible.

It was a really high level game, well played by both sides. The scores don't really give justice to the game as at the 15 minute mark it was 3-2 them and both teams had a dragon. Jiji was outCS'd by my MF top cause MF has an advantage on ashe and judge was out CS'd by chogoth mid cause chogoth has an advantage on akali. Bottom lane also went to CLG, but it was much more even than the other two and considering it was sona/janna vs shen/morg I'm fairly impressed at how well takashi+mega did down there.

Everything went pretty much as planned in the early-mid game. The first major encounter was bottom lane - we had picked off sona and jiji was farming top to catch back up from being denied in the laning phase. We got bot tower but lost 2 champions in the fight and due to some sick micro by chauster he escaped with 20 hp and we didn't get any kills.

After that they had a slight advantage we were up a tower but equal on dragons and the score was 5-3 them I think. There were no more engagements for around 3-4 minutes as both teams just tried to get positioning on each other, but they were the first to make a move with a great offscreen arrow to pick off Judge Reinhold. I think we ended up losing a tower + another champion in the exchange and from that point on we were almost too far behind to come back.

We tried to fight one 5v4 by baron to comeback (I was against fighting them at the time) and they aced us. This led to them eventually getting baron and the game being over. We were aware the game was over around the 21 minute mark after the ace+baron when the score was 12-4 or so - but it was a tournament match so we played it out till they were killing our base just incase there was a mass disconnect on their team or something .

Well it was definitely well played by CLG and grats to them - hope they win the tournament so we can say we coulda taken second place!

When you're up against a chogoth whos farming your first goal on your carries should be to get some HP. If I didn't have the 3 dorans or akali didn't rush rylais feast would just crush us.

Aegis is possibly one of the best items to get on shen - if you can't win teamfights at high level play you can't win the game. They won't let you just farm up - they'll get every dragon and steal your jungle. They never HAVE to engage you at a tower, they can simply slowly outfarm + starve you.

There really weren't that many fights - in the first 20 minutes there were probably three fights, one bottom because we picked someone off - one mid because they hit an arrow on judge and one by baron brush because we tried to 5v4 to comeback.

Morg had trouble farming because she duo laned with shen against a stronger duo lane and because we lost all 3 of the major fights - he still almost had his zhonyas by the time of the baron that won CLG the game, problem is after baron all of our farming stopped as the game was over and they had full mapcontrol.

Hope this helps you understand how the game was played .

On November 25 2010 12:23 Darkchylde wrote:
CLG vs TTM

http://i52.tinypic.com/c2u74.jpg

Try not to get a hard on 5hit.

On November 25 2010 08:06 r33k wrote:
Oh and by the way, inb4 locket imba. Basically nowadays you can put a locket on anyone that doesn't do a 3 dorans build and he'll automatically be top tier. See locket veigar and locket tryndamere.