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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 07:42 GMT
#11661
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 07:46:03
April 07 2011 07:43 GMT
#11662
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 07:53 GMT
#11663
Without the stuff it builds into? In that case I think madreds+mallet would be the go to for ranged carries.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 07 2011 08:57 GMT
#11664
Bam 1800. Need to keep going higher.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 09:07:43
April 07 2011 09:06 GMT
#11665
On April 06 2011 17:52 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 17:33 freelander wrote:
why the fuck do they put tristana into the rotation, she's free
that's stupid and it's like saying "at Riot we know you're stupid"


In fairness, they do know we're stupid.


Update: Tristana on sale, half RP cost
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 07 2011 09:07 GMT
#11666
1) boots 1
2) ward
3) potion

rest is up for debate
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 09:19:57
April 07 2011 09:19 GMT
#11667
On April 07 2011 15:14 Dezzimal wrote:
Buyer's Remorse. Never again am I spending 6300ip without playing a champ on a free week first.

Show nested quote +
[image loading]

Renek is ezpz. Just farm top for 30 min then 1v5 the other team.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
April 07 2011 10:23 GMT
#11668
On April 07 2011 16:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.

if BF sword didnt build into ANYTHING, i would just pay a little extra and get tiamet
huehuehue
same damage as BF sword, small aoe, and regen stats
You can't milk those!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
April 07 2011 10:53 GMT
#11669
Gbob streaming for CLG now = =
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
April 07 2011 11:01 GMT
#11670
On April 07 2011 19:23 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 16:43 TheYango wrote:
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.

if BF sword didnt build into ANYTHING, i would just pay a little extra and get tiamet
huehuehue
same damage as BF sword, small aoe, and regen stats


Isn't Manamune the most cost-efficient item for raw damage?

Imo it's entirely Riot's fault noone is using AD items. Like they intentionally designed items that are useful for autoattackers and then intentionally flooded the game with champions who mostly rely on abilities with raw AD scaling. Items that are good for autoattacks usually have a lot of their cost in other stats than damage, but those stats are wasted. Why would an Urgot (insert anyone with AD-scaling abilities) want Crit Damage? Or Attack Speed? Or Armor reduction on hit? Or Crit Chance? Or whatever other gimmicky bonuses you see on autoattacker items. All he needs is raw damage, CDR and armor penetration and since all those bonuses are unique except for raw damage he will just build his 3 core items and then walk around without a way to itemize. You cannot stack Last Whispers, you cannot stack Brutalizers and you cannot stack Manamune. You can stack Bloodthirsters technically, but relying on not dying for damage is bad for most AD-scaling champions since they are either melee or very short-ranged.

This is all very contrasting with the initial hero set where Ability Power was, really, ability power, something to increase the effectiveness of your abilities while damage was relevant to your autoattacks. Take Tristana, Yi or Jax. Riot took a risky route by messing it all up and now AP and AD aren't what they are supposed to be.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 12:53:11
April 07 2011 12:51 GMT
#11671
Someone reached 10k referrals and has unlocked the last reward:

http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=637255

I don't know what to think, except that he must have spammed facebook, twitter, and God knows what else a lot.

(I guess he must have been around for awhile though, with grez the lizard lord and all.)
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
April 07 2011 12:51 GMT
#11672
[image loading]

supposed future champ leak, ripped from art spotlight
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 07 2011 14:17 GMT
#11673
Grez for the win. Anyone whose name is Zerg backwards must be awesome.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 07 2011 14:43 GMT
#11674
On April 07 2011 16:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.


What was the third option? I'm guessing it never made it out of beta.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 07 2011 14:44 GMT
#11675
On April 07 2011 23:43 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 16:43 TheYango wrote:
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.


What was the third option? I'm guessing it never made it out of beta.


Innvervating Locket.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 07 2011 15:26 GMT
#11676
On April 07 2011 23:43 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 16:43 TheYango wrote:
On April 07 2011 16:42 Two_DoWn wrote:
Cata passive is incredible in the laning phase. Id probably still get catalyst even if it didnt build into anything and sell it when I hit level 18. The fact it has 2 awesome options is part of it, but the item by itself is incredible.

Used to be THREE awesome options.

And are you saying that if IE/BT/BC didn't exist, people would stop buying BF Sword? Because I'm not sure I agree with that--you still need a source of straight AD as a ranged carry, and BF Sword would be one of the best ways to get it if the stuff it builds into didn't exist.


What was the third option? I'm guessing it never made it out of beta.


herpaderp Seuss, I know you were there for locket meta. You must never have tried it...
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
April 07 2011 15:47 GMT
#11677
I plead the third.

Having watched the new art spotlight, it strikes me as interesting that immediately following Lee Sin's release we have a horribly scarred and burning champion. It wouldn't surprise me if Riot hedged their bets in the Ionia vs Noxus match and had Brand ready in case Ionia lost.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 07 2011 18:41 GMT
#11678
My garen guide:

step 1 pick garen

step 2 play this on the background: http://endlessvideo.com/watch?v=jw44JdK3p9k&NR=1

step 3 go with the flow
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 07 2011 18:48 GMT
#11679
Does anyone know how normal matchmaking works? Is it actually based on a normal elo that's like ranked elo?
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 07 2011 18:50 GMT
#11680
On April 08 2011 03:48 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Does anyone know how normal matchmaking works? Is it actually based on a normal elo that's like ranked elo?


Yes, you have an elo for normals as well. It is just hidden.
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