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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 06:16 GMT
#11641
That literally should not be possible. Renek shat on me solo top when i was morde. HE BEAT MY MORDE FFS.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 07 2011 06:19 GMT
#11642
well thats the thing renekton is ridiculously strong but he's not easy mode, actually requires a bit of thinking to use properly. also many different ways to level his skills
Brees on in
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 06:28:29
April 07 2011 06:26 GMT
#11643
Might I suggest not going ghostblade + ionian boots every game no matter what? You need to adapt your build. Some games a HoG rush is better than a ghostblade, only getting it when you need damage later in the midgame. (sometimes even forgoing it and getting something like atmas for damage works in its place) I feel it's more of your own mistakes and your build than the champ itself. He's a tanky dps, meaning you need to build tanky in order for him to get into people's face and do a ton of damage. I think you need to not only learn the champ, but the game itself. Like a lot of those games you didn't even have 100 minion kills. That's not even acceptable. >.>
With tanky champs the same exact build every game no matter what is bad. Different teams have different damage makeups so you need to adapt accordingly. But your problems seem to stem also to basics like lasthitting. I'd say practice that to simply get better at the game.

I was terribad at a lot of champs that I play nowadays. For example, I was HORRIBLE at sion (insane, right?) but now he's one of my main AP carries. I think you should just learn to adapt more and learn how to play renekton better before discarding him as wasted IP.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 06:28 GMT
#11644
Wait. Thats even worse. Sion has 2 buttons. How is it possible to not get that? Even sona has 4 buttons.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 07 2011 06:33 GMT
#11645
when you master slice n dice thats when he becomes broken. bursts you for half your hp then just peaces, Its like facing leblanc in lane except hes a monster in teamfights
Brees on in
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
April 07 2011 06:40 GMT
#11646
On April 07 2011 15:28 Two_DoWn wrote:
Wait. Thats even worse. Sion has 2 buttons. How is it possible to not get that? Even sona has 4 buttons.


It wasn't teamfighting; it was laning. Getting shield popped and such because I was a ultranoob. Overextending b/c of pushing the lane. Etc etc. I'm not as bad anymore although I will at times get shield popped vs a bursty champ like nidalee or cassiopea who shit on sion. ;/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
rewtamus
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States327 Posts
April 07 2011 06:49 GMT
#11647
"
Desirous (2:55): x17
Desirous (2:55): worst fucking shitties on the planet
Luck (2:56): theres an x17 again?
Luck (2:56): wut
Desirous (2:57): they never stopped being shitty
Desirous (2:57): still going around talking mad shit about how they're #1 at everything
Desirous (2:57): yet suck at everything
rewt (2:57): really? we suck? whats your apm?
Desirous (2:57): they haven't won a single fucking thing they've ever been apart of
Desirous (2:57): not in BW
Desirous (2:57): not in LoL
Desirous (2:57): not in SC2
rewt (2:57): please stop hating on us
rewt (2:57): & just gnore
rewt (2:57): thanks
Desirous (2:58): who the fuck are you
Rhavanna (2:58): x17 still exists?
rewt (2:58): i am Rabbitx17 -b in iccup who are you?
Desirous (2:58): person that was just aruging with a bunch of retards on your vent
Desirous (2:58): argueing*
rewt (2:58): why were you arguing tho
rewt (2:58): just accept the facts, bud
Destructivator joined the room.
Desirous (2:59): that you guys are known for cheating/hacking and talking shit
TwoDown (2:59): anyone knwo
Desirous (2:59): those are the facts
Genuinely joined the room.
TwoDown (2:59): who the dude from whale is who plays mundo?
rewt (2:59): i never hacked once
rewt (2:59): ok
rewt (2:59): so dont lump everyone together
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Desirous (3:00): your BW channel was consistently flooded with hackers who were friends with members and never banned
Desirous (3:00): and talked mad shit day in and day out
rewt (3:00): no
rewt (3:00): we proved it many times over
Desirous (3:00): rofl
rewt (3:00): u want 1v1 now no re?
Desirous (3:00): any given day I could go in there and see brandon[man
Desirous (3:00): in your channel
rewt (3:00): idk who that is
Desirous (3:00): who's been caught 50 times hacking
rewt (3:00): but i am ready to fight u in a game
rewt (3:00): u go now?
Desirous (3:00): xui-the-feared or w/e
Desirous (3:00): his name is
rewt (3:00): whats your name
rewt (3:00): we go right now
rewt (3:00): i have my mh ready
rewt (3:00): lets go
Desirous (3:01): I haven't played BW since before sc2 beta
Desirous (3:01): if you didn't stomp me you'd be WORSE than what I think already
rewt (3:01): bro i dont even have sc or and only played it a few times and im not in x17
rewt (3:01): but trolling opportunities in LP need to be snatched up asap
rewt (3:01): anyways was a fun convo tx <3
Desirous (3:01): fag =\
rewt (3:02): <3
rewt (3:02): no offnese
ksux (3:04): rewt wins
ksux (3:05): i think he just full comboed desirous
rewt (3:05): good thread will read again
TwoDown (3:07): rewt always wins
TwoDown (3:07): #1 rewl
"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
April 07 2011 06:54 GMT
#11648
lol desirous is such a baddie. always so angry
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 07 2011 07:00 GMT
#11649
would have been better if you said olympic rank
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 07:40:02
April 07 2011 07:14 GMT
#11650
So I was taking a shower and started to think about the best items in the game. So here is a list.

NOTE: This list is based mainly on the items by themselves, not what they build into.



10:Last Whisper: Want to kill a tank? Gonna need one of these.

9:Mercuries Treads: Currently the only way to reduce cc. Must buy against certain teams.

8:Randuins Omen: If the stats werent enough, the active certainly is

7: Infinity Edge: Are you ranged dps? Wanna kill things? If yes, buy IE

6:Youmou's Ghostblade: Are you melee dps? Wanna kill things? If yes, buy ghostblade

5:Rabbadons Deathcap: Are you a mage? Wanna kill things? If yes, buy deathcap

4:Banshees Veil: Spell block op yo~

3:Wriggles Lantern: Lifesteal, madreds procs, wards: Junglers dream. Not bad for lanes either

2:Catalyst the Protector: Health and Mana, plus a passive that will literally let you lane forever.

1:Heart of Gold: Armor, health, gold/5. All for less than 1k. Hands down best item in the game.




Honorable mentions: Aegis of the Legion, Sheen, Brutalizer, Void Staff, Trinity Force
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 07:27:21
April 07 2011 07:22 GMT
#11651
where is trinity force
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
April 07 2011 07:23 GMT
#11652
It's the 0th best item in the game. Unlisted so it goes under the radar instead of being proclaimed as OP.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 07:24 GMT
#11653
Just added to honorable mention. Problem is that most of the time you end up with a couple stats and passives you really want, and a bunch of stats that you dont really need.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 07:28:49
April 07 2011 07:27 GMT
#11654
I think you have IE placed too highly, seeing as lots ranged carries don't even all default to IE as their big DPS item anymore:

IE - Trist, Ashe, Twitch? (don't play him)
BT - Urgot, MF, Ezreal, Sivir, Caitlyn
BC - Corki
TForce - Ezreal, Corki
Other weird shit - AD TF, Kog'maw

It's a good option, but lots of champs opt for other items, unlike the other items on the list which are often must-have status.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 07:30 GMT
#11655
Then where does it go? Is it really worse than any of the things that come below it? And more importantly, is it worth breaking up my pattern?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 07 2011 07:32 GMT
#11656
On April 07 2011 16:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
Then where does it go? Is it really worse than any of the things that come below it? And more importantly, is it worth breaking up my pattern?

Obviously slot BF Sword into its spot, and cover all your bases.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
April 07 2011 07:35 GMT
#11657
merc treads best item in the game followed by banshee veil followed by catalyst since it builds into banshee + provides lane ownage
Brees on in
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 07 2011 07:35 GMT
#11658
That doesnt work though, cuz you never buy a bf sword just to get a bf sword. You get it to build one of the items it builds into. If it worked like that boots would have to be number 1 cuz you must buy boots.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 07:39:41
April 07 2011 07:37 GMT
#11659
1 merc
2 HoG
3 negatron cloak
4 boots1
5 chain mail
6 banshee
7 catalyst
8 rabaddon
9 zerkers
10 soccer shoes

IMO
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 07 2011 07:38 GMT
#11660
On April 07 2011 16:35 Two_DoWn wrote:
That doesnt work though, cuz you never buy a bf sword just to get a bf sword. You get it to build one of the items it builds into. If it worked like that boots would have to be number 1 cuz you must buy boots.

You buy Catalyst just to get a Catalyst?

Part of the reason Catalyst is so good is that it builds into BVeil.
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