• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:33
CEST 04:33
KST 11:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview0herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1457 users

General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 457

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 455 456 457 458 459 1152 Next
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 10 2011 19:04 GMT
#9121
On March 11 2011 03:55 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 03:48 Phrost wrote:
On March 11 2011 01:02 BluzMan wrote:
TDL ult is so cash. Instabuy for me I guess.

Actually, after making tons of champs with ego-centric ultimates and gameplay, Riot is finally porting team-oriented ultimated that made DotA/HoN. Still not seriously awaiting a Kraken port, but a spark of hope is lit. Kraken was my all-time favorite hero in all MOBA games.


Amumu is already in the game, wut

Not the same, there is no flushing.


Are we talking about the dota guy? because amumu is basically the same.

If you're talking about that weird toliet ult that the HON one got i doubt they will put it into lol anytime soon.
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 10 2011 19:05 GMT
#9122
On March 11 2011 04:00 Brees wrote:
depending on how far ult range is this guy could become the new TF/panth. Guess they still haven't learned that giving a champion with a high-range ult and cc means they will be overpowered or garbage.


I'm pretty sure it's going to be like akali's dash. It says nearby enemy not enemy halfway accross the map and they already said they don't want anymore global ults (they'd rather have more lux lazers and less ashe arrows)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 19:48:14
March 10 2011 19:47 GMT
#9123
So the server is perfectly fine, then Riot turns it off for "maintenance", when it comes back we get no important update (at least nothing that couldn't wait till patchday) AND everything is broken + there is a login Queue.

Well played Riot
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 10 2011 19:52 GMT
#9124
On March 11 2011 02:07 barbsq wrote:
the dark lady, she has an ult similar to the new champ's


Ah, but as far as I can remember, at least when I played beta she was pretty terrible. Ult was still annoying tho.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
March 10 2011 19:52 GMT
#9125
--- Nuked ---
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 10 2011 19:54 GMT
#9126
On March 11 2011 04:47 Kaniol wrote:
So the server is perfectly fine, then Riot turns it off for "maintenance", when it comes back we get no important update (at least nothing that couldn't wait till patchday) AND everything is broken + there is a login Queue.

Well played Riot

US Server? Seems like they finally gave it the EU patch.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
March 10 2011 19:55 GMT
#9127
Hahaha so true, now US is just like EU used to be
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
March 10 2011 20:22 GMT
#9128
On March 11 2011 04:04 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 03:55 r33k wrote:
On March 11 2011 03:48 Phrost wrote:
On March 11 2011 01:02 BluzMan wrote:
TDL ult is so cash. Instabuy for me I guess.

Actually, after making tons of champs with ego-centric ultimates and gameplay, Riot is finally porting team-oriented ultimated that made DotA/HoN. Still not seriously awaiting a Kraken port, but a spark of hope is lit. Kraken was my all-time favorite hero in all MOBA games.


Amumu is already in the game, wut

Not the same, there is no flushing.


Are we talking about the dota guy? because amumu is basically the same.

If you're talking about that weird toliet ult that the HON one got i doubt they will put it into lol anytime soon.

Yeah I was talking HoN, my head hurts whenever I try to play dota.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:39:22
March 10 2011 20:27 GMT
#9129
I have been testing out a 16 magic pen rune setup these days on casters. It's so that you can get 36 flat magic pen with sorc boots, which will slice through people with 3 points in resistance (+6MR).

Thoughts?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 10 2011 20:33 GMT
#9130
depends on the caster. I run a full mpen setup on Annie, but on later game casters I run tankier runes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 10 2011 20:33 GMT
#9131
go 19 mpen imo, by the time u have sorcs on casters that would want it (annie or lux or w/e) enemy should have mercs
Hey! Listen!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:35:14
March 10 2011 20:34 GMT
#9132
So I tested what would happen if after destroying the opponent's nexus you start a surrender vote and it gets accepted before the "victory!"... and well, you both lose the game. Good to know.

EDIT: also go haunting guise after sorcs, read my analysis from half a year ago
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:41:17
March 10 2011 20:38 GMT
#9133
On March 11 2011 05:33 Navi wrote:
go 19 mpen imo, by the time u have sorcs on casters that would want it (annie or lux or w/e) enemy should have mercs


Well if they have merc you cant really catch up anyways. It`s mostly to maximize rune efficiency vs people who start out with 36 magic res and then don`t build any more until banshees, which is a lot of casters and carries.

As it stands I get 16 magic pen with 9 magic pen marks, 2 magic pen quints, and 7 magic pen blues. This leaves me with 1 open quint slot and 2 open blue slots.

Seems silly, but quite efficient since you can get an extra 26HP and 3magic resist this way. Better than an extra 3 magic pen that won`t do anything vs your primary targets for a while.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:45:00
March 10 2011 20:43 GMT
#9134
On March 11 2011 05:38 Juicyfruit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2011 05:33 Navi wrote:
go 19 mpen imo, by the time u have sorcs on casters that would want it (annie or lux or w/e) enemy should have mercs


Well if they have merc you cant really catch up anyways. It`s mostly to maximize rune efficiency vs people who start out with 36 magic res and then don`t build any more until banshees, which is a lot of casters and carries.

19 MPen still allows you to keep up with runed MR as well. And I think being able to penetrate 13 flat/1.35 per level MR from glyphs is relevant just as often as the 6 MR from masteries (if not more often--I'm pretty sure MRes glyphs are more common on casters/carries than the corresponding defensive masteries).
Moderator
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 10 2011 20:50 GMT
#9135
my point being if u rush sorcs on annie / anivia u doing something wrong
get cata
Hey! Listen!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:54:44
March 10 2011 20:50 GMT
#9136
AP/level blues are the standard blues for casters for sure, and yet they'll all get SoS. They'll almost definitely stay around 36 magic resist for a while.


DPS carries tend to be more versatile, but looking through high Elo runepages, a lot of them tend to gear towards mp5/level for blues and armor for yellows. Some do get magic resistance blues, of course, but that doesn't always happen.

It's really just playing the odds. It's the reason why some people used to run a flat 10 magic pen rune setup so that they can get the 30 flat magic pen once they get sorc boots to penetrate through everyone's base magic res and none of it will ever be wasted at any point during the game.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 10 2011 20:54 GMT
#9137
not all caster get SoS wtf
there are probably as many flat/scaling mr carry pages in high with yellow mrgen (when they think gonna lane vs caster) as there are armor/mregen. ppl who are srs bsns about their carries generally have more than 3 runepages for them imo if they rich like that
Hey! Listen!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-10 20:56:22
March 10 2011 20:56 GMT
#9138
Yeah but you can't predict ALL of it. The point is that 36 is an extremely common baseline magic resist without going excessive on the magic pen.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
March 10 2011 20:59 GMT
#9139
the main point im trying to make being that on most of the casters who want full mpen page (annie, anivia) u don't get boots 2 (or 3 in anivia's case) that quickly anyway (need dat cata), and since nobody has less than 19 mres in lane you optimize your damage in lane with full mpen. and by the time u get sorcs on annie, most enemies who will build mercs should have at least the null cloth if not the mercs themselves.
Hey! Listen!
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 10 2011 21:02 GMT
#9140
Enemy casters are very likely to build sorc boots themselves. Some carries build zerkers.

Let's say annie vs annie mirror match

Annie A has 19 magic pen
Annie B has 16 magic pen, 26HP, and 3 extra magic resist.

Annie B will have the advantage the whole time, before and after sorc boots.
Prev 1 455 456 457 458 459 1152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#82
PiGStarcraft786
EnkiAlexander 52
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft786
RuFF_SC2 128
Nina 85
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5771
Artosis 665
NaDa 31
Noble 8
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1871
taco 657
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1486
ChuDatz11
Other Games
summit1g13717
Doublelift2735
C9.Mang0510
ViBE270
Maynarde100
Trikslyr56
CosmosSc2 17
PattyMac7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick987
BasetradeTV16
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush696
Other Games
• Scarra724
Upcoming Events
GSL
6h 58m
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
21h 28m
GSL
1d 6h
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-19
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.