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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 15:49:41
March 02 2011 14:59 GMT
#8421
I love jarman because you can ult onto a support and they cant escape.

And if they flash, they either flash into the rest of your team, or they're out of the team fight. It it amazing justice.


From LoL Forums:
I just got out of a game where a Yi purposely built himself with nothing but Zeals and an Infinity Edge to run at approximately FOUR THOUSAND times the speed of light. EVEN with Rylais snaring him, he was faster than anyone on our team. He was running Cleanse and Ghost, and was impossible to lock down and kill so we could push against their team..



i lulz'd
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#8422
On March 02 2011 20:18 SQWKZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 15:00 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 02 2011 14:54 rigwarl wrote:
which side were you playing as gtrsrs? I noticed the upper right team's minion's were crushing the lower left team when i played


this is exactly what happened
purple minions just absolutely steamroll blue minions after about 25 minutes, so it appears
it's the purple caster minion dilemma all over again :facepalm:


So, as blue, you basically can't hold on to a tower advantage and do a five man push?
Guinsoo seemed to acknowledge that there is a problem with how easily you lose a turret to minions, if I liberally interpret his RIOT-talk. No talk of any sort of positional imbalance, tho.


yes, that's the problem
while we had baron and were seiging their mid, their top-lane creeps took 2 towers and an inhib by themselves. this was at about 25 minutes.

LATE-game, basically from 25 minutes to the 1hour mark, we would push out our lanes, go to an objective (i.e. baron), win a fight 5 kills to 3 and have 2 people left. if the two people left included our kassadin, he was unable to kill creeps and their minions would just take an inhib. if two of our AD champs were left alive we would be able to defend our own base but never push out. we ended up losing at the 1 hour mark when we won a teamfight 5-2 and all our inhibs were up so we decided to BD one of their inhibs. all three of their lanes took our inhibs and one of us died BDing so they just ended it. one of the most frustrating finishes to a game ever
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
March 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#8423
On March 03 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 20:18 SQWKZ wrote:
On March 02 2011 15:00 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 02 2011 14:54 rigwarl wrote:
which side were you playing as gtrsrs? I noticed the upper right team's minion's were crushing the lower left team when i played


this is exactly what happened
purple minions just absolutely steamroll blue minions after about 25 minutes, so it appears
it's the purple caster minion dilemma all over again :facepalm:


So, as blue, you basically can't hold on to a tower advantage and do a five man push?
Guinsoo seemed to acknowledge that there is a problem with how easily you lose a turret to minions, if I liberally interpret his RIOT-talk. No talk of any sort of positional imbalance, tho.


yes, that's the problem
while we had baron and were seiging their mid, their top-lane creeps took 2 towers and an inhib by themselves. this was at about 25 minutes.

LATE-game, basically from 25 minutes to the 1hour mark, we would push out our lanes, go to an objective (i.e. baron), win a fight 5 kills to 3 and have 2 people left. if the two people left included our kassadin, he was unable to kill creeps and their minions would just take an inhib. if two of our AD champs were left alive we would be able to defend our own base but never push out. we ended up losing at the 1 hour mark when we won a teamfight 5-2 and all our inhibs were up so we decided to BD one of their inhibs. all three of their lanes took our inhibs and one of us died BDing so they just ended it. one of the most frustrating finishes to a game ever


Push all lanes, push.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 02 2011 19:20 GMT
#8424
On March 03 2011 04:13 ProV1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 02 2011 20:18 SQWKZ wrote:
On March 02 2011 15:00 gtrsrs wrote:
On March 02 2011 14:54 rigwarl wrote:
which side were you playing as gtrsrs? I noticed the upper right team's minion's were crushing the lower left team when i played


this is exactly what happened
purple minions just absolutely steamroll blue minions after about 25 minutes, so it appears
it's the purple caster minion dilemma all over again :facepalm:


So, as blue, you basically can't hold on to a tower advantage and do a five man push?
Guinsoo seemed to acknowledge that there is a problem with how easily you lose a turret to minions, if I liberally interpret his RIOT-talk. No talk of any sort of positional imbalance, tho.


yes, that's the problem
while we had baron and were seiging their mid, their top-lane creeps took 2 towers and an inhib by themselves. this was at about 25 minutes.

LATE-game, basically from 25 minutes to the 1hour mark, we would push out our lanes, go to an objective (i.e. baron), win a fight 5 kills to 3 and have 2 people left. if the two people left included our kassadin, he was unable to kill creeps and their minions would just take an inhib. if two of our AD champs were left alive we would be able to defend our own base but never push out. we ended up losing at the 1 hour mark when we won a teamfight 5-2 and all our inhibs were up so we decided to BD one of their inhibs. all three of their lanes took our inhibs and one of us died BDing so they just ended it. one of the most frustrating finishes to a game ever


Push all lanes, push.


reading comprehension?
the creeps were too strong to push out
if anyone but our AD carries was alive we literally COULD NOT stop them from taking our inhibs
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 19:29:16
March 02 2011 19:26 GMT
#8425
On March 03 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
yes, that's the problem
while we had baron and were seiging their mid, their top-lane creeps took 2 towers and an inhib by themselves. this was at about 25 minutes.

Shouldn't that only happen if you don't push back all the lanes? And conversely shouldn't it happen to them if you push back the lanes and let a big wave reach THEIR side?
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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
March 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#8426
Just pick Singed imo. Minion buff was a huge Singed buff since he pushes so easily. Or TF/Panth/Shen I guess.

It would be amusing if Riot actually messed up and made purple minions stronger though.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
March 02 2011 19:45 GMT
#8427
On March 03 2011 04:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
yes, that's the problem
while we had baron and were seiging their mid, their top-lane creeps took 2 towers and an inhib by themselves. this was at about 25 minutes.

Shouldn't that only happen if you don't push back all the lanes? And conversely shouldn't it happen to them if you push back the lanes and let a big wave reach THEIR side?


that's what i'm saying... the creeps were pushing abnormally hard ALL game, regardless of how much we pushed them back
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 02 2011 22:09 GMT
#8428
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 02 2011 22:23 GMT
#8429
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-02 22:33:34
March 02 2011 22:31 GMT
#8430
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 02 2011 22:37 GMT
#8431
On March 03 2011 07:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.

Armor redux team IMO.

Jarvan, Urgot, Renekton, Corki, Taric.

55% armor reduction, 30-80 flat reduction, all applied before any penetration.
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Synthesis
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada167 Posts
March 02 2011 22:42 GMT
#8432
Nasus would be good too.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 02 2011 22:44 GMT
#8433
On March 03 2011 07:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.

Armor redux team IMO.

Jarvan, Urgot, Renekton, Corki, Taric.

55% armor reduction, 30-80 flat reduction, all applied before any penetration.

Screw dat. I want the hellhole of death.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 02 2011 22:49 GMT
#8434
My bestest Jarman teamfight was with Malz + Kat raping the 4 people I caught in my ult. It was pretty good.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
March 02 2011 23:22 GMT
#8435
On March 03 2011 07:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:37 TheYango wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.

Armor redux team IMO.

Jarvan, Urgot, Renekton, Corki, Taric.

55% armor reduction, 30-80 flat reduction, all applied before any penetration.

Screw dat. I want the hellhole of death.

AP Gangplank.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
March 02 2011 23:31 GMT
#8436
On March 03 2011 08:22 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 07:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:37 TheYango wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.

Armor redux team IMO.

Jarvan, Urgot, Renekton, Corki, Taric.

55% armor reduction, 30-80 flat reduction, all applied before any penetration.

Screw dat. I want the hellhole of death.

AP Gangplank.

Too much RNG. Da Hellhole of Death must be reliable. Hence fidds.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
March 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#8437
On March 03 2011 08:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 08:22 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:37 TheYango wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:31 Two_DoWn wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:23 spinesheath wrote:
On March 03 2011 07:09 Mogwai wrote:
On March 02 2011 16:37 Brees wrote:
lets duo queue troll jarman and trundell sometime, both 4800, both terrain disruptions, both totally tubular.

k, let's fucking do it.

But where is ANIVIA?

Trunde, Jarman, Anivia, Malzahar, Pantheon. Jarman ulti, pantheon ulti, trundle pillar, Malz w, Nivia ulti. Teamfight gg. Although, if you really wanted to dominate, drop trundle and pick up jungle fids.

Armor redux team IMO.

Jarvan, Urgot, Renekton, Corki, Taric.

55% armor reduction, 30-80 flat reduction, all applied before any penetration.

Screw dat. I want the hellhole of death.

AP Gangplank.

Too much RNG. Da Hellhole of Death must be reliable. Hence fidds.

Oh come on :< you know you want tibbers in there.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
March 02 2011 23:47 GMT
#8438
On March 02 2011 23:27 spinesheath wrote:
You also can't pull Dragon anymore.

With Blitz, if that wasn't obvious.

last i checked you can, just from a different location than you used to be able to
You can't milk those!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
March 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#8439
On March 03 2011 08:47 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 23:27 spinesheath wrote:
You also can't pull Dragon anymore.

With Blitz, if that wasn't obvious.

last i checked you can, just from a different location than you used to be able to

Was this in like 2010?
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Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
March 03 2011 00:15 GMT
#8440
On March 03 2011 08:47 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2011 23:27 spinesheath wrote:
You also can't pull Dragon anymore.

With Blitz, if that wasn't obvious.

last i checked you can, just from a different location than you used to be able to


You can't pull dragon because he's immune to cc now.

You can't stun/pull/slow/etc the dragon
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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