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On March 01 2011 00:52 Scorcher2k wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game  Yup, I've had this reponse as well. I had my own fun games last night as well... I queued with a friend and we have me as corki, friend as swain?, janna, jungle shen, irelia. Game pops and janna goes top... I make a comment that Irelia should take top and this is how I find out that the three of them queued together and are total douchebags. I dominate my lane agaisnt Ashe with a large cs lead and putting the tower down to less than half hp while Janna has kat shit all over her. Mid game comes and it all just snowballs out of control with the team trash talking the whole way.
I had this happen to me but I went wriggles+triforce udyr and just ran around killing the entire enemy team by myself. It was quiet hilarious because the ryze on my team stopped trolling my team and started trolling theirs as I curb stomped the 8-0 kat and 5-1 pantheon because i was like a freight train and just stole all the jungle buffs and ganked as often as possible.
Sometimes you can actually carry your team out of defeat but you had best hope your towers are still up.
PS bearstance stunning katarina during her ult is the greatest thing ever.
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One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed.
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On March 01 2011 01:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed.
I took every dragon. I was basically donig a figure 8 around the red and blue buffs and killed everything along the way. Which was actually hilarious because I only ended up like 8-2 but our team had like 30 or so kills.
Tigerstance udyr is pretty baller.
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On March 01 2011 01:14 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed. I took every dragon. I was basically donig a figure 8 around the red and blue buffs and killed everything along the way. Which was actually hilarious because I only ended up like 8-2 but our team had like 30 or so kills. Tigerstance udyr is pretty baller.
Completely agree. Udyr's ability to blow up buffs/dragon and do silly stuns to people makes me torn between him and Trundle.
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On March 01 2011 01:20 Scorcher2k wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:14 Phrost wrote:On March 01 2011 01:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed. I took every dragon. I was basically donig a figure 8 around the red and blue buffs and killed everything along the way. Which was actually hilarious because I only ended up like 8-2 but our team had like 30 or so kills. Tigerstance udyr is pretty baller. Completely agree. Udyr's ability to blow up buffs/dragon and do silly stuns to people makes me torn between him and Trundle.
Trundle's better because of early counter jungling IMOIMOIMO
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On March 01 2011 01:26 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:20 Scorcher2k wrote:On March 01 2011 01:14 Phrost wrote:On March 01 2011 01:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed. I took every dragon. I was basically donig a figure 8 around the red and blue buffs and killed everything along the way. Which was actually hilarious because I only ended up like 8-2 but our team had like 30 or so kills. Tigerstance udyr is pretty baller. Completely agree. Udyr's ability to blow up buffs/dragon and do silly stuns to people makes me torn between him and Trundle. Trundle's better because of early counter jungling IMOIMOIMO
He also has a lot safer escape and intiation. Pillar of filth can be done at range where as if you commit to a bearstance stun and it goes south you're pretty much dead.
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When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O
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On March 01 2011 01:14 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:11 Juicyfruit wrote:
One or two fed champs is possible to deal with. It's when team global gold gets out of control that I know we're completely screwed. I took every dragon. I was basically donig a figure 8 around the red and blue buffs and killed everything along the way. Which was actually hilarious because I only ended up like 8-2 but our team had like 30 or so kills. Tigerstance udyr is pretty baller.
Wins games d00d!
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On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O
When people had a little time to play him and he wasn't brand new/free weak rotation.
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On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O
He's always been really good, he's just kinda boring to play.
Top tier junglers atm imo are Nunu/Trundle/Shaco/Rammus followed by udyr, warwick, amumu, followed by everyone else basically.
The difference between the two groups is really most perfect playing usually yields better results but is not necessarily easier to play.
Basically the potential power level is higher but not in every instance.
Basically how to play trundle:
if Q not on cd, Q
if w not on cd, W
if R not on cd and you're trying to kill someone OR not die, R
E (pillar of filth) is really the only skill with any decision making to it.
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On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O
I don't see ANY trundle players in my games. However he is picked quite often at higher elo (from what i've noticed on streams). I'm not sure if his playstyle fits high elo better or low elo people just didn't "discover" him yet
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On March 01 2011 01:44 Kaniol wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O I don't see ANY trundle players in my games. However he is picked quite often at higher elo (from what i've noticed on streams). I'm not sure if his playstyle fits high elo better or low elo people just didn't "discover" him yet
No, he's just boring as hell to play.
High elo plays to win so they play him because he is good not because he is fun.
Trundle's most redeeming (and probably only redeeming) quality is that he is a troll.
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On March 01 2011 01:46 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:44 Kaniol wrote:On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O I don't see ANY trundle players in my games. However he is picked quite often at higher elo (from what i've noticed on streams). I'm not sure if his playstyle fits high elo better or low elo people just didn't "discover" him yet No, he's just boring as hell to play. High elo plays to win so they play him because he is good not because he is fun. Trundle's most redeeming (and probably only redeeming) quality is that he is a troll.
That's like the most subjective thing you can say, though. I personally think carries are boring as all fuck and support is amazingly fun, but people stare at me like i've got a dick on my forehead for saying that half the time.
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Last hitting is too hard and tedious
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On March 01 2011 01:46 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2011 01:44 Kaniol wrote:On March 01 2011 01:31 Slayer91 wrote:
When did trundle move from trash/troll tier to tier 1 jungler? o.O I don't see ANY trundle players in my games. However he is picked quite often at higher elo (from what i've noticed on streams). I'm not sure if his playstyle fits high elo better or low elo people just didn't "discover" him yet No, he's just boring as hell to play. High elo plays to win so they play him because he is good not because he is fun. Trundle's most redeeming (and probably only redeeming) quality is that he is a troll.
There is a stigma agaisnt trundle in low elo still though. I actually had a game where I was getting shit from people for picking him. I tried to reference tier lists as showing that he is a top jungler, thinking that a lot of people blindly follow them, but had no luck with that either. So instead I just went and dominated.
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Fun fact is, low elo people hate jungling with passion so much that (unlike solo irelia/veigar examples from before) they won't take your "lane" away from you 
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i love playing trundle because of his jungle speed and ability to take dragon at like level 5 and that he can completely trash the other jungler
but i need to get lessons from DontMashMe on how to actually carry with him. i feel like at a certain point when there are less ganks to be had, i just don't know what to do. teamfights are kinda tricky too
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On February 28 2011 22:36 ghen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 18:30 Odds wrote:
Question to mods: if I make a long, detailed post about why I think Cassiopeia is awesome and will, sooner or later, be FotM, would it deserve its own thread by virtue of differing vastly from the accepted topic of strategy discussion within the otherwise appropriate champion thread?
fml english No. that's why the champion thread exists. to talk about the champion. If there were a forum for every champion then sure, but otherwise keep it to one thread.
I don't mean to hate, but I'm pretty sure I asked the mods-- y'know, the people who make the rules.
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On March 01 2011 01:38 Phrost wrote:
Top tier junglers atm imo are Nunu/Trundle/Shaco/Rammus followed by udyr, warwick, amumu, followed by everyone else basically.
No Olaf?
On March 01 2011 03:49 Odds wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 22:36 ghen wrote:On February 28 2011 18:30 Odds wrote:
Question to mods: if I make a long, detailed post about why I think Cassiopeia is awesome and will, sooner or later, be FotM, would it deserve its own thread by virtue of differing vastly from the accepted topic of strategy discussion within the otherwise appropriate champion thread?
fml english No. that's why the champion thread exists. to talk about the champion. If there were a forum for every champion then sure, but otherwise keep it to one thread. I don't mean to hate, but I'm pretty sure I asked the mods-- y'know, the people who make the rules.
Personally, I don't see why it needs its own thread. If it's to get people to read it, you're probably likely to get more attention from posting it in this GD thread, because everyone reads this thread anyway, and it'll get bumped more (whereas most of the one-shot threads that aren't Champion threads that people have tried fall by the wayside).
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