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On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game  this happened to me last night
on stream
against elementz
when i picked swain
malphite went top
thug lyfe
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On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game 
I hope you report people like this. I'm kind of tired of the LoL community bad attitudes. Sure there are a lot of good people out there, but there are too many assholes and crybabies who bitch about the stupidest shit. Even people who don't know how to win gracefully and instead of a nice 'gg' you instead get a 'raped' at the end.
I just started reporting shit like this. I'm making a ton of reports lately at the game summary screen. I dunno, If I was running a game company I'd just flat out ban people like this. You'd think you would get long term respect as a company that values good people in their user base. Look how well that philosophy has worked for the Team Liquid site.
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On February 28 2011 18:52 cougar22 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 18:50 WaveofShadow wrote:On February 28 2011 18:21 Niton wrote:On February 28 2011 17:35 Caller wrote:On February 28 2011 17:06 rwrzr wrote: I don't know if you guys have seen it yet but 5hit has a thread going on the leagueoflegends.com general discussion forum.
This guy called AzixTGO is pretty funny. 1800 games played in soloqueue and arguing with 5hit about not being able to carry bads.
Funny thread
azixtgo is known for being a baddie with 1900 games and still under 50%. He's not stuck in ELO hell, he's just fucking bad There's so many people like him floating around, too. Players with >100 games played without breaking 1300 really need their own bracket. Either my second or third ranked game, my leaver was someone with 500 games played and a top rating of 1300, and I can't even fathom the kind of player that can play that badly over almost 2,000 games against shit players. Afaik you can't even hit level 30 until like 200 normals or so more if you play customs and TT. There are also those who decide not to start playing ranked games right away.... I think he's referring to >100 ranked games, rather than total.
Yeah, 100 ranked. If you're 100 games in and hovering 1250, you shouldn't be weighted like a 1-0 player. Massgame terrible players make newbie island hell soloqueue.
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On February 28 2011 19:23 Aurdon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game  I hope you report people like this. I'm kind of tired of the LoL community bad attitudes. Sure there are a lot of good people out there, but there are too many assholes and crybabies who bitch about the stupidest shit. Even people who don't know how to win gracefully and instead of a nice 'gg' you instead get a 'raped' at the end. I just started reporting shit like this. I'm making a ton of reports lately at the game summary screen. I dunno, If I was running a game company I'd just flat out ban people like this. You'd think you would get long term respect as a company that values good people in their user base. Look how well that philosophy has worked for the Team Liquid site.
yeah i have been reporting people like this of late i reported everyone on my team that game and asked the other team to do the same ofc i'm sure they all reported me for "noob picking cait" but i do hope that riot reads those reports
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well i just played another game and lo and behold, no one bitched at our irelia for being afk the first 2 minutes cause he had to get food, and he got first blood en route to a steamroll! it's crazy what non-awful attitudes can do for you in this game
that being said, caitlyn is a fuckton of fun she seems really really good too. both games i've had very solid numbers, both in CS and in KDA, and i don't really even play carries and i don't really know how to play caitlyn at all. first game i did a really on-hit based build (wit's end, mallet, cleaver) cause i was playing a support based DPS and wanted to abuse her range. this second game i did standard IE->LW->PD and did pretty well too. mb i will be revolutionary caitlyn player. i feel so indei
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Veigar Carry:
![[image loading]](http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3093/veigarcarry.gif)
I had over 1k AP by 35 minutes, and about 1.25k AP at the end.
Edit: lol @ Elementz comment.
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On February 28 2011 19:46 gtrsrs wrote: well i just played another game and lo and behold, no one bitched at our irelia for being afk the first 2 minutes cause he had to get food, and he got first blood en route to a steamroll! it's crazy what non-awful attitudes can do for you in this game
that being said, caitlyn is a fuckton of fun she seems really really good too. both games i've had very solid numbers, both in CS and in KDA, and i don't really even play carries and i don't really know how to play caitlyn at all. first game i did a really on-hit based build (wit's end, mallet, cleaver) cause i was playing a support based DPS and wanted to abuse her range. this second game i did standard IE->LW->PD and did pretty well too. mb i will be revolutionary caitlyn player. i feel so indei
Caitlyn is tricky because she is the same kind of carry that Ashe is, defacto subpar Damage but lots of utility/CC. Expect Ashes Crystal Arrow is among the best skills in the game and Caits Ace among the worst (You nuke one guy of the other Team but they pick who it is...).
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On February 28 2011 18:30 Odds wrote: Question to mods: if I make a long, detailed post about why I think Cassiopeia is awesome and will, sooner or later, be FotM, would it deserve its own thread by virtue of differing vastly from the accepted topic of strategy discussion within the otherwise appropriate champion thread?
fml english
No, because I was first to declare cass OP huehue. Take ur spot in line.
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On February 28 2011 18:30 Odds wrote: Question to mods: if I make a long, detailed post about why I think Cassiopeia is awesome and will, sooner or later, be FotM, would it deserve its own thread by virtue of differing vastly from the accepted topic of strategy discussion within the otherwise appropriate champion thread?
fml english
No. that's why the champion thread exists. to talk about the champion. If there were a forum for every champion then sure, but otherwise keep it to one thread.
On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game 
This happened to me when I started playing Urgot again after his buff. No one understands, they just rather flame you at the start and never give you a chance to prove yourself. I ended up stopping playing urgot because I just couldn't handle people stealing solo lanes from me even when I'm the only AD carry on the team.
It's a bitch and it was more than I could deal with even when I put up incredible scores I'd still get shit on next game and it would start all over.
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I never get crap about Caitlyn.
I did get crap about giving up FB, then our jungle nunu proceeded to complain that no one he helped with a gank did any damage and went to baron to afk dance. When I said that we could still come back since they were pretty much all AP damage he called me a noob. It wasn't like 10 minutes in when he gave up with a score of like 1-3, we weren't even that far behind...
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Since there is apparently no thread about Kog'maw (well there is, but it's in closed and it's awful), how do you build him now? AP or AD or hybrid? Skill order etc. I haven't seen that much of Kog ever since his Q got fixed and I honestly have no idea if he is a good pick now. He probably still should be, but I'm just not seeing him picked.
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I can only guess that high elo opinion of Kog is that he's bad and awful because every time someone lists ranged carries they always forget about him. His major issue in my eyes is that Tristana is more consistent and has multiple ways to escape while Kog does not and late game the difference in range between the two is hardly significant. Ranged carries are a dime a dozen and they all basically do the same thing, so they're always stepping on each other's toes.
As for AP Kog just don't do it, your ult can't do good DPS until level 2-3 with 40% CDR and it's impossible to build for all of that and magic penetration and the mana you need to keep it up. Not to mention you're really reliant on your team to apply pressure to land ults against good opponents, and as people die off during team fights most of the time you get more useless since you suck in small fights (easier to dodge ult which is your only major contribution to the fight).
Building for auto attacks is still the way to go, I like AD but I don't know if it's the most efficient path anymore. Gives a lot more poking and tower siege power than Bloodrazor builds though.
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On February 28 2011 22:52 BluzMan wrote: Since there is apparently no thread about Kog'maw (well there is, but it's in closed and it's awful), how do you build him now? AP or AD or hybrid? Skill order etc. I haven't seen that much of Kog ever since his Q got fixed and I honestly have no idea if he is a good pick now. He probably still should be, but I'm just not seeing him picked.
I've tried all 3 with kog. It really depends on what you want to play. AP is fun, but it is not going to get you kills. AD is incredibly strong. Much stronger than AP and it will get you kills. It's kinda boring though. Hybrid is mainly for taking towers, and he does that well enough anyway so it doesn't work so good on him compared to the other two.
So I would compare kog to teemo in the AD/AP split. If you want to carry your team to victory go AD. If you want to run around making people rage but maybe lose the game because of your lack of straight up team fight damage then go AP.
Either way, start with doran's ring unless you're against ez, ashe, or caitlyn. Their ranged pokes will kill you without a shield.
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On February 28 2011 12:59 Phrost wrote: its the rocket goblin guy that shoots the infinite range missle, has that weird like hook thing that pulls him to whoever he hits and another skill that makes the cogs that surround him. I forgot his name. (from dota)
Clockwerk goblin. :D http://www.playdota.com/heroes/clockwerk-goblin
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edit: nvm, it fixed itself
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On March 01 2011 00:14 Goshawk. wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2011 12:59 Phrost wrote: its the rocket goblin guy that shoots the infinite range missle, has that weird like hook thing that pulls him to whoever he hits and another skill that makes the cogs that surround him. I forgot his name. (from dota) Clockwerk goblin. :D http://www.playdota.com/heroes/clockwerk-goblin
yeah fuck that guy
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On February 28 2011 19:05 gtrsrs wrote:hooooooooly jesus i just played caitlyn for the first time literally NONSTOP shit-talk from my teammates from minute 1 of the game we got first blood, first dragon, first tower, we were up 7-4 and my team tried to surrender because "caitlyn lost us the game noob caitlyn" when i was 2-1 and had the most cs on our team. the shit talk just continued all game regardless of what happened. when i was at 5-1-8 our malz was just like "i don't even care i want this noob fuck caitlyn to lose i hate carrying noobs" :| i mean i'm all about admitting when i am playing badly, but i was having a great game. is this reaction normal for caitlyn players? mb i won't play her any more... i mean it was disgusting how mad these guys were. all four of my teammates just nonstop harassment despite how hard i was carrying them. not surprisingly we lost hard because of the terrible attitudes but wow that was a really really not fun game  Yup, I've had this reponse as well. I had my own fun games last night as well... I queued with a friend and we have me as corki, friend as swain?, janna, jungle shen, irelia. Game pops and janna goes top... I make a comment that Irelia should take top and this is how I find out that the three of them queued together and are total douchebags. I dominate my lane agaisnt Ashe with a large cs lead and putting the tower down to less than half hp while Janna has kat shit all over her. Mid game comes and it all just snowballs out of control with the team trash talking the whole way.
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On February 28 2011 18:37 LoCicero wrote: Dyrus bans my Veigar when I'm on his team, lol. So I pick Ryze and kill mid twice. That is not the right reinforcement. I should have just fed and afk'ed. He called that he was going to troll before the game, it could have been worse.
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