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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
January 27 2011 16:04 GMT
#5301
Why does it feel like we get into this every half a month or so. T1 runes at 10% of T3 rune cost but have 50~60% of their effects. Easily worth it.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#5302
Yeah, buying 3 pages full of T1 runes is smarter choice than just getting 1 bad, expensive page of T3 runes "cause they are T3!!!". No need to rush T3 runes, just steadily upgrade your T1 runes into T3
crazeman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
664 Posts
January 27 2011 16:28 GMT
#5303
Does anyone have suggestions for a generic jungle page and a generic tank page? Not sure what jungle i'm going to play as I haven't found one that I liked.

Someone in liquidparty suggested attackspeed/mp5-level/something and health quints for a AS jungle such as warrick.

as for tank i have no clue. maybe ??? for marks, magic resist glyphs, clarity seals with flat health quints?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 16:35:23
January 27 2011 16:35 GMT
#5304
Tanks generally can be fairly fluid. For example, My tank page is armpen, dodge, mr, health simply because dodge was the defense stat that i figured i could make the most use off on all champions. However, armor yellows are better for some, such as rammus, health yellows are good, mr/lvl are good, and mpen are good for tanks like amumu or anyone who does magic or wants a sunfire.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 27 2011 17:21 GMT
#5305
I got armor reds, armor yellows, mr blues, armor quints. Best Shen page.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
January 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#5306
Shake knows nothing of the true Shen way

SR:
as/ep5plv/mrplvl/ms
9/0/21
tele/ghost

TT:
as/dodge/mrplvl/hp
9/21/0
exhaust/ghost
it's my first day
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
January 27 2011 18:33 GMT
#5307
On January 28 2011 01:28 crazeman wrote:
Does anyone have suggestions for a generic jungle page and a generic tank page? Not sure what jungle i'm going to play as I haven't found one that I liked.

Someone in liquidparty suggested attackspeed/mp5-level/something and health quints for a AS jungle such as warrick.

as for tank i have no clue. maybe ??? for marks, magic resist glyphs, clarity seals with flat health quints?


For generic jungle you can probably do AS reds, flat armor yellows, either mp5/lvl blues or mres/lvl blues (your choice), and HP quints

For junglers like fiddlesticks you'll be using a straight up caster page anyway so meh. But most junglers rely on madred's razor -> either wriggles/bloodrazor so attack speed means more procs.

No clue what amumu does... just don't play him XD

generic tank is a bit harder because of the AD/AP split in their piddly damage output. Yellows should probably be mp5/lvl because tanks rarely build mana regen, and blues should be mres/lvl because they're very efficient.

HP quints aren't necessary on tanks since you'll be getting plenty of mitigation anyway, but if you have problems dying level 1-10 then use the HP quints anyway.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 18:41:55
January 27 2011 18:41 GMT
#5308
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 27 2011 18:45 GMT
#5309
On January 28 2011 03:00 myopia wrote:
Shake knows nothing of the true Shen way

SR:
as/ep5plv/mrplvl/ms
9/0/21
tele/ghost

TT:
as/dodge/mrplvl/hp
9/21/0
exhaust/ghost


shen
SR
MS-ar/lvl-MR/lvl-MPen
0/21/9
ghost/tele

TT
HP-armor-MR-MPen
9/21/0
exhaust/smite
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 18:53:34
January 27 2011 18:50 GMT
#5310
weird i dont use runes like either of you

I use

HP quint/armor pen/dodge/mres/lvl


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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#5311
I go hp, attack speed, energy regen per level and mres per level. Randuin nerf might mean mres per level yellows as well since armor and general tankineaa is less obvious to spec for.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 27 2011 20:31 GMT
#5312
def need armor pen on shen to control your lane, i guess attack speed works if your jungling him

rest doesnt really matter, HP quints or movespeed are both nice
Brees on in
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 27 2011 20:33 GMT
#5313
On January 28 2011 05:31 Brees wrote:
def need armor pen on shen to control your lane, i guess attack speed works if your jungling him

Why ArmPen? Seems like Ki+Vorpal would be a larger component of your damage than straight autoattacks (not sure though, since I don't own Shen).
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3300 Posts
January 27 2011 20:39 GMT
#5314
i go jungle rammus and start at blue. janna drops off to help, doesnt drop her shield right after i start the fight so i pop w. 1sec later she shields me, nulling w dmg. then she kills one of the small ones negating me lv2 at blue and lv3 at wraiths. how can a guy not get pissed?
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
January 27 2011 20:39 GMT
#5315
On January 28 2011 05:33 TheYango wrote:
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On January 28 2011 05:31 Brees wrote:
def need armor pen on shen to control your lane, i guess attack speed works if your jungling him

Why ArmPen? Seems like Ki+Vorpal would be a larger component of your damage than straight autoattacks (not sure though, since I don't own Shen).



armor pen runes are just inherently imbalanced. Unless you are a straight up caster and never auto-attack, armor pen always > magic pen
Brees on in
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
January 27 2011 20:45 GMT
#5316
I'm supposed to autoattack in teamfights as shen?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 27 2011 20:47 GMT
#5317
yeah arpen on shen just seems like a bad idea
ki and vorpal are your primary means of harass, auto attacks are for last hitting
Mpen also helps your sunfire later ^_^
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
January 27 2011 20:48 GMT
#5318
On January 28 2011 00:57 EquilasH wrote:
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On January 27 2011 21:12 Abenson wrote:
On January 27 2011 21:07 EquilasH wrote:
Wow you have more than 1 runepage in lvl 25? I didn't even have all the runes to fill one runepage when I was lvl 25.


T1 rune page :3
I have 3 of them, actually.
1 is general dps (armpen +mana)
2 is general caster (Spellpen + mana)
3 is jungler (Attspd)


Isn't that a complete waste of IP?.. It's not like having several choices for runepages in 20's is something you NEED. Imo you should've just bought T3 runepages from the start.


Actually, given a clean slate the most IP efficient method is to buy T1 runes and combine them up to T3. Yeah it's RNG but on average it's more efficient, at least until you've got a significant number of useful T3 runes that you don't need more of.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
January 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#5319
I autoattack as much as I can in teamfights as Shen, so I'd say armor pen will help a lot more than magic pen.

That said, I pick attack speed since it does similar things in terms of lane-control and increases his DPS vs towers.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 21:06:22
January 27 2011 21:05 GMT
#5320
I mean, even if you're autoattacking as much as you can in teamfights, I have a hard time believing that your autoattack damage is going to be more than your Vorpal/Ki damage, especially since both are going to have about twice the baseline damage of your autoattacks by level 18.

Though it's probably a non-issue seeing as attack speed still seems to be better.
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