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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 08:07 GMT
#3041
You know I was talking with park and phr0st today and we figured something out

I don't think people know about run fucking fast
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
December 29 2010 08:10 GMT
#3042
On December 29 2010 17:07 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
You know I was talking with park and phr0st today and we figured something out

I don't think people know about run fucking fast


dont fucking tell anyone until we have a screen shot god
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 29 2010 08:21 GMT
#3043
On December 29 2010 17:10 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 17:07 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
You know I was talking with park and phr0st today and we figured something out

I don't think people know about run fucking fast


dont fucking tell anyone until we have a screen shot god


If this is about zeals + mobility boots, been there, done that.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 29 2010 08:21 GMT
#3044
This time we gotta make sure we get credit.
Like have "TL" in the name or something :3
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 08:28 GMT
#3045
it's pregame hype, like taking a shot of vodka before binge drinking with hot chicks
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 10:23 GMT
#3046
Speaking of fun things we definitely need a new channel, there are way too many fucking bads in LiquidParty.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 29 2010 10:25 GMT
#3047
Haven't there always been?
Zinger.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 10:27 GMT
#3048
Ya but the ratio was kinda always bearable until recently when it's about 1/20 instead of 1/10 or so.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 10:42 GMT
#3049
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=4937259#post4937259
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 29 2010 10:48 GMT
#3050
The problem isn't "stealth." The problem is being able to spend 90% of your time in stealth, walk around and wait to get kills. Shaco has a stealth and isn't a problem, neither is teemo. Eve's stealth is the problem. I can give you a solution, something like you lose 5% of your hp every second you are in stealth. Extreme, but it would solve the problem of eve just sitting in stealth waiting for a kill, with no way to know if she's there or not.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 29 2010 10:49 GMT
#3051
It's not even that big of a problem, people just suck.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 11:08:44
December 29 2010 11:02 GMT
#3052
Pantheon's Ult.
TF's Ult.
Karthus' Ult.
Shen's Ult.
Teleport to ward.
Teemo's Ult.
AP Shaco's Box stacks.
Soraka's Ult.

Just to name a few abilities that require you to play differently. This game is full of stuff that you should be aware of at all times.

I definitely don't think that there is any issue at all with Eve's stealth. Of course if they want to they can lower its duration, whatever. Would make her more similar to champs like Akali, Shaco or Poppy in the way that they wait/engage. However, if they introduce some sort of blur, stealth will just be useless.

The biggest advantage Eve has over (most of) those other mapcontrol/gank abilities is that it's not an ultimate and therefore it's available much earlier. And at least in Europe people don't abuse that at all, they wait until lvl 4, 4:40 with their ganks. Jungle Eve can't even stealth gank another jungler if he starts at blue because she needs Hate Spike for jungling, and should the gank fail for some reason, she is royally screwed.

Besides, if you want to counter Eve: Pick TF, Nidalee, Shen. Get 1 or even 2 clairvoyances. And put some goddamn vision wards on the map.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 29 2010 12:53 GMT
#3053
On December 29 2010 12:13 ghen wrote:
Finally even win/loss ratio! for the first time since under level 5........ DOT DOT DOT

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Are those custom icons or something?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 29 2010 12:59 GMT
#3054
Reds have said that they won't insert some sort of blur specifically because it opens up client side hacking. If the blur isn't obvious you can hack it to be obvious, if the blur is obvious then what is the point of stealth?

Moreover, effects which you can see that are centered in any way on a stealthed character quite a distance away open up opportunities for hacking.

The binary "now you see me now you don't" aspect of stealth is not going to change.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 13:03:10
December 29 2010 13:02 GMT
#3055
On December 29 2010 21:53 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 12:13 ghen wrote:
Finally even win/loss ratio! for the first time since under level 5........ DOT DOT DOT

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Are those custom icons or something?

http://forum.leaguecraft.com/showthread.php?tid=10465&page=1
and
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=205938

First one first, second one second.

Chinese art. You know you want it.
[image loading]

[image loading]
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
December 29 2010 13:16 GMT
#3056
Good thing they're making making changes to stealth and eve in particular, shes like the bane of solo queues, no champion should be able to affect a game as heavily as she does.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 29 2010 13:17 GMT
#3057
On December 29 2010 19:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It's not even that big of a problem, people just suck.

The problem is tower diving with an instant heal when you get the kill. And it gives like 100 movement speed. If you have less than 1000hp you die. Let reginald pick her, he'll tower dive all fucking day to kill anyone.

She isn't hard to stop, but just one retard on your team and she can kill anyone after 10 minutes (and since it's solo queue, you're going to have atleast one retard).
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 13:58:53
December 29 2010 13:52 GMT
#3058
To me, the problem with stealth is that is shouldn't be the sole thing making a champion viable, because then decision making becomes too straightforward: spend 400 gold to completely counter it. However, if a stealth champion would be viable without stealth, then it's overpowered, because now you have to spend 400 gold in addition to whatever else you would be spending to counter them. I hope Riot finds some sort of elegant solution.

EDIT: I think part of the issue is that stealth champions have abilities that let them instagib someone. I know it's considered flavorful in an ambush sense, but if they found a way to make it so stealthers don't instagib that could work.
Zero fighting.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
December 29 2010 13:55 GMT
#3059
On December 29 2010 22:17 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2010 19:49 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It's not even that big of a problem, people just suck.


She isn't hard to stop, but just one retard on your team and she can kill anyone after 10 minutes (and since it's solo queue, you're going to have atleast one retard).


This. She's not hard to stop... just exercise lane control and pull the lane to just outside on your tower.

That being said... There's always one retard. I don't think Eve is broken, just that some peoples heads are.
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
December 29 2010 14:25 GMT
#3060
So the "strategy" to counter eve, solo queue? Pick someone you're good with who feeds as well/better than her and carries as well/better than her. HMM THIS LOOKS KINDA LIKE THE SOLO QUEUE STRATEGY IN GENERAL!
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
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