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Southlight
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rwrzr
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Mogwai
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NeoIllusions
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With AP Casters, you go full on AP. You two based on two situations: 1. You have enough AP/MPen where you can burst on 1 or a few champions and kill them before they can collectively burst back (typical Annie) 2. You wait for a few spells (ultis if you're a bit lucky) to go off on your team, flank in and burst them down while enemy is on their CD. Going Abyssal/Zhonya's might work for you and I'm not going to criticize. But it is definitely reminiscent of you being a tanky DPS main. No joke. zz | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 20 2011 00:27 Mogwai wrote: Related note, I'm starting to like really fucking weird rune pages where I do stuff like 5 Dodge Seals, 4 Armor Seals, 6 Scaling MRes Glyphs, 3 Flat MRes Glyphs, 2 MRes Quints, 1 Armor Quint, lol. Giant clusterfuck of Tank Stats + 21 defensive gogogogogo, more diving es more best! Joug would be so fucking proud of you if he was still around. I used to rag him for his weird Rune pages too. Guess you're subbing in. Noob Smash! | ||
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Mogwai
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Flat Armor rapes, but so does nimbleness. It's silly to think that you need to make all your seals dodge in order to utilize nimbleness, so like, I like getting 2-3.5% extra dodge to make nimbleness more reliable. Then from there, Getting some flat MRes padding to counter early flat pen is cool and getting more later is also cool. Flat resistance Quints beat out Flat HP Quints (26 HP = 68.6 gold in defensive stats) (Flat MRes Quints: 4.5 = 75 gold, Flat Armor Quints: 4.26 = 71 gold), ESPECIALLY considering that HoG is straight HP and core on like, everyone now. tl;dr: Smash uses a combination of Science and "feeling out" his rune pages, the result is jawesome. | ||
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Southlight
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r.Evo
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-I made the run of "grind to 1600, learn new champs, back to 1300, grind back up" for the third time now to get a huge variety in my champselection and improve in general aspects. When I tryhard getting to 1500/1600 is no huge trouble at all. I carry feeders all fucking day, np. -I'm comfortable in not flat out losing my lane, even if I do I won't end up feeding like a retard. -My problem is: I feel I'm having less impact on the overall game than in the elo bracket below. - This either means it's not possible or it means I'm too much of a scrub to do it. Since I'm a firm believer in the god of jungle chogath aka 5H1T, it's me being a scrub. Basicly, I start to lose some lanes here and there, once teamfighting starts I feel in my element again. Also I feel as if I have a strong edge there on almost all players (stuff like getting outfarmed/killed as AD, but simply having superior positioning in fights). Is this simply me playing too many champs and having less experience with each of them or is there other stuff I can do? Should I concentrate on a few champs or keep spreading myself all over the place? Any general things that I should be aware of in the elo bracket I mentioned compared to the stuff below? The two roles I still carry like a boss is jungling and support, people are so horribly bad at it, it's not even funny. | ||
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Southlight
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Two_DoWn
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Below 1100- These people are terrible. Bad builds, Bad last hitting, Bad gamesense, Open to ganks. Easy to carry. Below 1300- Here we start to see some sense of skill, possibly the knowledge of how to lane, definite knowledge of how to pick on weak links and get fed. Failings include not knowing where to be, how to take objectives, or win games. Below 1800 (rough estimate, as I have yet to get here)- No longer possible to pick on people for lack of knowledge how to win games, you have to combine a strong laning phase with knowing how to win in order to win regularly. This generally means having a champ you are GOOD with. Its the reason Doublelift is known for blitz, HSGG for Nid, Saint for Trundle. A champ you simply are better at than anyone else in your game, and you can carry your way to enough of a lead to where you can close it out. Not a full 18-1 carry, but maybe a 8-3, grab a fast baron and push carry. IMO that last category simply involves finding a champ you can just play better than anyone you will meet in your games. | ||
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Mogwai
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Two_DoWn
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Slayer91
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rwrzr
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Most Dragons + Barons in a single game. Winner will recieve e-fame on the general forums. | ||
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rob.au
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I tend to just try pick champ's that are hard to counterpick if I'm picking early, or pick champs that counterpick the enemy if I have a later pick. Most people still don't control the lane that well, so holding it at my tower is often something I'll use to safely farm and leave the enemy open to jungle ganks (not that I ever expect the jungler to gank my lane). You're probably at the point where the enemy does actually know objectives like Baron/Dragon exist, so they are actually risky to do now. I stopped forcing them in risky situations and won a lot more games because of it (compared to low elo where doing them in risky situations can win you a lot of games). In terms of jungling I feel like the earlier you can gank the better, its super easy to get first blood on junglers like jarvan/fiddle/ali who have good level 2 ganks. These junglers also reduce the amount of games where you're power leveling to 6 while some scrub somehow gets demolished in lane near beyond repair. Do the brush ganks top/bot because no one wards them and rarely are they cv'd. The only other thing that I had some success with was picking a champ like Maokai solo mid, get a lot of easy wins because people don't know how to lane against him. Since you're EU its probably harder to find these champions (although I guess Mao isn't popular there either), but on US I think there's huge scope to spam games on Rumble/Gragas who completely dominate if you are good at them. Dubu on US went from basically 1700-2100 playing Rumble. I hear Fiddle jungle isn't popular on EU...he might be worth a try there. That's all I can think of for now, hopefully someone can post how to get plat. edit: Duo Q still works really well if both of you are actually legit > the rating you're aiming for, and don't give up in games where you're losing. | ||
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Craton
United States17270 Posts
On July 19 2011 13:11 gtrsrs wrote: i stand by my initial statement that hitler- erm i mean almost prom king amumu is the worst skin in the game but yeah i generally agree with you, amumu has fking great skins. in fact i'll probably just pick up little knight amumu later so i guess tempest janna it is also i'm real tard, i have 270 RP not 230 so i guess i have enough for her as soon as she drops =^.^= I want little knight, but I don't want a second skin for the same champ  On July 19 2011 14:36 GranDim wrote: Riot EU servers load balance to the US whenever the EU servers can't handle the traffic. Not exactly. They have specific backup servers located in new york that are used solely for overflow, which is what EU gets sent to. That doesn't impact the standard NA servers. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On July 20 2011 00:13 Southlight wrote: The original was really me with my Cata/RoA stack on every AP hero _-_ lol I've done that on lux on numerous occasions as a troll. (5 catas + boots and then turn them into RoA only after you get all 5 cata + sell 1 cata for deathcap. Need all 5 catas for maximum troll!) You get into a teamfight, they dive the "squishy" lux and then you kill them and heal for 1k+ lolol. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On July 20 2011 00:52 r.Evo wrote: Can someone give me a mini-guide on how to consistently beat 1700+ish elo? -I made the run of "grind to 1600, learn new champs, back to 1300, grind back up" for the third time now to get a huge variety in my champselection and improve in general aspects. When I tryhard getting to 1500/1600 is no huge trouble at all. I carry feeders all fucking day, np. -I'm comfortable in not flat out losing my lane, even if I do I won't end up feeding like a retard. -My problem is: I feel I'm having less impact on the overall game than in the elo bracket below. - This either means it's not possible or it means I'm too much of a scrub to do it. Since I'm a firm believer in the god of jungle chogath aka 5H1T, it's me being a scrub. Basicly, I start to lose some lanes here and there, once teamfighting starts I feel in my element again. Also I feel as if I have a strong edge there on almost all players (stuff like getting outfarmed/killed as AD, but simply having superior positioning in fights). Is this simply me playing too many champs and having less experience with each of them or is there other stuff I can do? Should I concentrate on a few champs or keep spreading myself all over the place? Any general things that I should be aware of in the elo bracket I mentioned compared to the stuff below? The two roles I still carry like a boss is jungling and support, people are so horribly bad at it, it's not even funny. Everyone loves to have jungles + support, but no one likes to play them. You could get to 1700+ definitely by jungling/supporting. If all else fails duo queue with someone you trust to carry while you jungle/support them. If you feel laning isn't your strongest area then you could try the push hard -> gank strat | ||
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