• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:55
CET 15:55
KST 23:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Path of Exile [Game] Osu!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1969 users

General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 1089

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1152 Next
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 19 2011 04:11 GMT
#21761
On July 19 2011 13:05 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 12:45 gtrsrs wrote:
so
pharoah amumu and tempest janna
i want both of them
they're 260 RP each right now
and i have 230 RP

i know that riot occasionally grants you +x RP to complete a skin purchase. can someone detail me on how this is done? I've heard you have to photoshop a picture of a bear and post it on teh forums or something?

Get the janna one. Every Amumu skin is godlike except for Pharaoh Amumu. And yeah, just go to http://support.leagueoflegends.com/home and submit a ticket and draw some cute picture or whatever.


i stand by my initial statement that hitler- erm i mean almost prom king amumu is the worst skin in the game but yeah i generally agree with you, amumu has fking great skins. in fact i'll probably just pick up little knight amumu later

so i guess tempest janna it is

also i'm real tard, i have 270 RP not 230 so i guess i have enough for her as soon as she drops =^.^=
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 19 2011 04:23 GMT
#21762
I wrote a brief guide on laning for some of my friends I've been playing 3s with, I jungle for them. usually when we lose the game it's because the lanes lost so I thought it would help.

General Lane Principles
1) Laning is all about advantageous trades. Taking free hits is very, very bad.
2) A lane that is pushing will continue pushing until the waves reach a tower. When a wave hits a tower it will kill all the creeps, sending the wave pushing back in the opposite direction. The larger the wave you send at the tower, the longer the tower spends attacking the creeps - and the larger the eventual counterpush.
3) Harassing an enemy champion with autoattacks will push the lane, since you will attract aggro and effectively be tanking for your creeps.
4) When are you pushing, you receive more experience and gold. Then when the lane pushes back at the tower, the experience and gold become equalized again. There are four ways to extend this temporary advantage into a permanent one.
a) Kill the opponent by hitting an important level before he does. Level two and level six are often kill opportunities for the player who hits them first.
b) Send the wave into the tower while the opponent isn’t there. Every wave a tower kills without an opponent there is a significant loss.
c) Send the wave into the tower against a weak counterpusher. Only certain champions can last hit effectively under a tower. This only denies gold initially, but many champions will be forced to expend mana or health trying to push the creeps of their tower as quickly as possible. Extended pushing can therefore send them back to base and deny experience. Some heroes will simply lose their lane to this (blitz for example), but there are three effective counters.
i) Push back harder. Not always possible.
ii) Gank the pushing champion.
iii) Superior sustain. Powerful, cheap ways of building sustain include multiple doran’s blades/shields/rings, catalyst, and wriggles.
d) Exploit the map control strong pushing grants to accomplish other objectives. For example, in fives, mid can push their lanes, then go do the enemy wraiths and gain a significant advantage. In threes you could push and then rush red.
5) Freezing a lane is when the opponent has a lane that is in the process of pushing, which you then ‘halt’ by equalizing it with your wave at a desired point.
Example: A large enemy wave is coming down the lane. Instead of letting it do so, I block them for a few seconds until my wave arrives, then attack his wave until it’s equal strength with mine – that way it won’t eventually push into my tower. If I last hit carefully now, the wave will stay where I parked it for a long time.
a) If you control your lane poorly and the opponent freezes it in an advantageous spot, there isn’t very much you can do. Either he has to push it with last hitting or you have to push the lane into his tower to get a counterpush going. If you try to push it into his tower, the lane won’t fully reset unless your wave is large, so it may not be possible to fix the situation this way.
 
Treeline Specific Notes
1) Every lane position is bad without constant warding.
2) Top lane has five positions.
a) Opponent’s wave just outside your tower. This is an extremely weak position. You cannot leave your lane without telegraphing your destination, your opponent can leave at any time without your knowledge and is difficult to gank as the approach paths are weak. Your jungler is crippled because he is revealed if he attempts to cross from top to bottom jungle or vice versa, unless he gives up xp and gold by taking the long back route. You cannot be easily ganked from this position, but your jungle and bot lane are very insecure.
b) Opponent’s wave pushed just past the bushes. This is not as bad, but still disadvantaged. Your opponent can leave easily as he controls the bushes, and you are gankable, but the overall team position on the map is stronger.
c) Waves in the center of the map. Equal. Both players vulnerable to ganks.
d) The other two positions are the reverse of the first two. These are the strongest positions.
3) Bot lane has three positions.
a) Just outside your tower. You lose control of red, but otherwise this is nowhere near as bad as when top lane’s waves are at the tower.
b) Central. I really don’t know what the strengths/weaknesses of this position are. If you have a ward up, shouldn’t be gankable.
c) The reverse of the first position. When the lane is here, if red is pinked this is a key opportunity to three man ninja red.


On July 19 2011 11:24 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 10:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 19 2011 09:08 calgar wrote:
On July 19 2011 07:50 UniversalSnip wrote:
On July 19 2011 06:11 Flakes wrote:
On July 19 2011 03:04 Two_DoWn wrote:
So I'm thinking about putting together a series of videos on how to win games LoL, escape from the state of mind called elo hell, and just generally make the playerbase of LoL not suck nearly as much. Would anybody be interested in this?

Stuff covered would be things like debunking all of the myths at champ select (ie, we need ranged ad, we need a tank, we need ap, ect), late game objectives and positioning, how to jungle properly, how to troll properly (just for funsies), how to build a character properly, how to teamfight, ect.


You can't make everyone pro, because then no one will be pro!

People post things on the Riot forums saying like "Anyone can get above 1300 if they do X," which, mathematically, goes against the idea of a competitive ladder (if all ten players do X, half of them will still lose).


No it doesn't...

Suppose there is a 1000 man rock paper scissors tournament. The bottom 951 players in this tournament only know how to throw rock. They are too stubborn or stupid to learn the dual arts of scissors and paper.

If I posted on the RPS forums "anyone can finish top 50 in this tournament, you just need to throw paper", it would be true. It doesn't go against ANYTHING mathematically.
I think what he's trying to say isn't that any one person can't do well and finish top 50 (double negative, confusing..). Sure anyone can become good by learning to throw paper. But if everyone throws paper, then everyone isn't in the top X percent. They're average. But more of, a high rating is essentially equivalent to a statement saying they are better than X percentage of all players. If all players then get to that rating, it doesn't mean they are all that rating, because it won't mean the same thing.


but saying 'what if everyone throws paper' departs from reality
I'm not sure what you mean but the rock paper scissors example wasn't mine.


the example is mine...

Bottom line is everyone can't be better than most others because someone has to be at the bottom, which is what he meant.


Bottom line is that doesn't have anything to do with what he was arguing. that is my point.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
July 19 2011 04:24 GMT
#21763
This week's free champions are disgusting.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 19 2011 04:30 GMT
#21764
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=986665

Haha, Regi calling out CLG for not flying to IEM. I still can't believe they have to pay for their flight and hotels though.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:40:00
July 19 2011 04:36 GMT
#21765
On July 19 2011 13:11 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 12:48 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:29 r33k wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:06 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:00 r33k wrote:
On July 19 2011 11:48 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 11:46 r33k wrote:
So that's why Riot is looking for lawyers...

That and some Icefrog/Guinsoo stuff nobody is allowed to know...


Yeah, the bastards are infringing on Sun Wukong's likeness.

edit: queue timer up to 3 hours, my god.

It's the 3rd time (afaik) that S2 announces the release of a hero extremely similiar to the one that Riot showed they would be releasing.


What would the other two be? Riot makes a lot of champions based off mythology and the sort.

I was thinking Ability-wise, they released Empath shortly after karma (spotlight focused a lot on the Q and the spell visuals were extremely similiar) and Caitlyn/Flint were released with 1 week of difference. Now, flint is simply a dwarven sniper port, but it is dishonest and legally persecutable to release something for free that the rival company makes their customers pay for, and do so right after them.

A similiar thing could be said about Riot one year ago with HoN's own version of shaco, but given that the S2 post was updated a lot after its initial publication I can't tell if it was Riot that took from S2 or vice versa.


"Sniper" and "Harlequin" both carry a certain set of artistic and practical flavors associated with them. Harlequin dressing silly and utilizing types of trickery in their skill sets.

If you're arguing that they came out very close together chronologically that may be a very valid point, and clever marketing ploy by riot. (Its not illegal to do this because HoN can't copyright "Harlequin" or "Sniper")


Is it just me or does Harlequin's first skill use the same tooltip as kill command from wow?

edit: yep

[image loading]


All four icons are from WoW. In order:

Kill Command
Quickening (Recolored)
Spinning Slash
Flip Out
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 19 2011 04:50 GMT
#21766
On July 19 2011 13:30 HazMat wrote:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=986665

Haha, Regi calling out CLG for not flying to IEM. I still can't believe they have to pay for their flight and hotels though.

Well, that's kinda how these tournaments work. They usually don't cover for travel/lodging so you need sponsors (that's why SK/Fnatic exist). I'm listening in to CLG's vent and it seems like HS really wants to go for the experience/exposure (to both Gamescon and MLG because they're very close together) but Chauster is iffy.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 04:56:49
July 19 2011 04:55 GMT
#21767
On July 19 2011 13:24 0123456789 wrote:
This week's free champions are disgusting.


i have 4 champs left to get ranked wins with (anivia gragas leona yorick)
and after months literally MONTHS of waiting anivia is finally free

so i'm happy
but fuck free rumble week at the same time
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 19 2011 05:21 GMT
#21768
On July 19 2011 13:24 0123456789 wrote:
This week's free champions are disgusting.

I always make this mistake and buy a champion I've been waiting to play forever. Need to remember to just wait for Tuesday, but at least I got a few hours of Rumble before free.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 19 2011 05:23 GMT
#21769
Played on EU server with some friends. I somehow had 35 ping on the EU server. I live in North Carolina. What the fuck @ riot?

It all worked out though, I pretended to be British and got called all kinds of things like, "eurogay" and such from the Americans we were up against.
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
July 19 2011 05:36 GMT
#21770
Riot EU servers load balance to the US whenever the EU servers can't handle the traffic.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 19 2011 05:40 GMT
#21771
On July 19 2011 13:11 Phrost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 12:48 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:29 r33k wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:06 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 12:00 r33k wrote:
On July 19 2011 11:48 TL Blazeraid wrote:
On July 19 2011 11:46 r33k wrote:
So that's why Riot is looking for lawyers...

That and some Icefrog/Guinsoo stuff nobody is allowed to know...


Yeah, the bastards are infringing on Sun Wukong's likeness.

edit: queue timer up to 3 hours, my god.

It's the 3rd time (afaik) that S2 announces the release of a hero extremely similiar to the one that Riot showed they would be releasing.


What would the other two be? Riot makes a lot of champions based off mythology and the sort.

I was thinking Ability-wise, they released Empath shortly after karma (spotlight focused a lot on the Q and the spell visuals were extremely similiar) and Caitlyn/Flint were released with 1 week of difference. Now, flint is simply a dwarven sniper port, but it is dishonest and legally persecutable to release something for free that the rival company makes their customers pay for, and do so right after them.

A similiar thing could be said about Riot one year ago with HoN's own version of shaco, but given that the S2 post was updated a lot after its initial publication I can't tell if it was Riot that took from S2 or vice versa.


"Sniper" and "Harlequin" both carry a certain set of artistic and practical flavors associated with them. Harlequin dressing silly and utilizing types of trickery in their skill sets.

If you're arguing that they came out very close together chronologically that may be a very valid point, and clever marketing ploy by riot. (Its not illegal to do this because HoN can't copyright "Harlequin" or "Sniper")


Is it just me or does Harlequin's first skill use the same tooltip as kill command from wow?

edit: yep

[image loading]

That's because for their "dream" site where people can post their own champion ideas they put stock items from the WC games, WoW and Guild Wars as far as I can tell.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 19 2011 05:40 GMT
#21772
On July 19 2011 14:36 GranDim wrote:
Riot EU servers load balance to the US whenever the EU servers can't handle the traffic.


Ah, that'd make sense. Was probably from all the US people trying to play on EU. Thanks for the info.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
July 19 2011 07:19 GMT
#21773
Jesus. I should have been able to guess that the nesl would be that bad once. If you cant even make a website that works, how can you make a tourney?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
July 19 2011 07:50 GMT
#21774
I've been back for a while now but I've only recently started playing propperly again.

My game was so off it was sad

Also, Kennen is so weak now ; ;
Guess you could make a stunbot out of him with tank items (leona + kennen = permastun?) :D
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 08:05:24
July 19 2011 08:05 GMT
#21775
closer than "soon" http://www.dota-two.com/dota2-presentation-countdown
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 19 2011 09:04 GMT
#21776
Yay! I guess this fake means we have a timeline for season 2 lol.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
July 19 2011 09:22 GMT
#21777
can someone point me to a guide or a replay or a video or discussion of a 'pro' using morgana?
cool beans
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 19 2011 09:45 GMT
#21778
On July 19 2011 18:22 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
can someone point me to a guide or a replay or a video or discussion of a 'pro' using morgana?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222741
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
July 19 2011 09:53 GMT
#21779
On July 19 2011 16:50 mercurial wrote:
I've been back for a while now but I've only recently started playing propperly again.

My game was so off it was sad

Also, Kennen is so weak now ; ;
Guess you could make a stunbot out of him with tank items (leona + kennen = permastun?) :D

dont.worry bro you still #1 kennen on EU ^^ and what about teaming that combo up with jungle mumu? but then again youll need some real heaby dmg on your last two picks
washed
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
July 19 2011 10:04 GMT
#21780
Hitting those 3 aoe's on some people and you can concidder them dead in my book.

And with that lineup you kind of only have bottom lane left which could be anything cause of all the people who can stun.

p.s
I have a newfound love for Caitlin, which is probably because of her sexy voice and traps.
Prev 1 1087 1088 1089 1090 1091 1152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:30
#16
SteadfastSC108
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Korean Royale
12:00
Group B
WardiTV1286
TKL 393
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko393
TKL 393
Rex 162
SortOf 132
SteadfastSC 108
Codebar 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 48270
Rain 3210
PianO 558
Larva 556
firebathero 459
Mini 357
Killer 159
soO 76
Aegong 61
Backho 44
[ Show more ]
Oya187 34
Rock 33
HiyA 32
ToSsGirL 24
Noble 16
Shine 16
yabsab 14
zelot 14
Movie 14
Hm[arnc] 14
Terrorterran 10
ivOry 8
Dota 2
qojqva8594
Gorgc5621
Dendi988
League of Legends
Reynor84
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1415
byalli647
oskar107
Super Smash Bros
Chillindude37
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor269
Other Games
B2W.Neo1663
crisheroes373
Hui .291
Fuzer 133
XcaliburYe123
XaKoH 48
Trikslyr29
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream21837
Other Games
EGCTV25
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1733
League of Legends
• Nemesis2383
• Stunt959
Upcoming Events
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
5m
IPSL
2h 5m
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
2h 5m
BSL 21
5h 5m
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
16h 35m
Classic vs SHIN
Maru vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Wardi Open
23h 5m
IPSL
1d 5h
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
1d 5h
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
OSC
1d 8h
OSC
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LAN Event
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.