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Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
July 19 2011 17:48 GMT
#21821
On July 20 2011 01:11 Two_DoWn wrote:
True enough. 1500 elo and I have to yell at people not to be in bot lane.

-_-


1500 elo is making me confused. I generally preform well every game, and some games we get amazing team comps and no one needs direction and it's pleasant stomps.

Then sometimes I get AD Soraka. I get so close to escaping but just can't.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#21822
yeah 1500 seems troll infested
i lost a 5v4 last night when our ryze built 5 mana crystals and boots and our rumble was 0-4 to akali in lane :|
fking humiliating
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 19 2011 18:05 GMT
#21823
since you can now change region on the launcher, i went to EU server during maintenance the other night.

my summoner name is are you a moron

i'm so happy
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 19 2011 18:06 GMT
#21824
On July 19 2011 23:14 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2011 20:50 r33k wrote:
On July 19 2011 20:08 JackDino wrote:
How do you lane kassadin vs malz when malz can just E you before your Q hits and then just throw some autos on you+ the voidling?

Please don't pick kassadin. Also Pendragon said people aren't reporting eachother enough, so whenever I'll feel like playing on my main again ima start reporting Kassadins Crocs and such :X

K the korean commentators are morons. They commentate on tournament servers and sit on the team without nocturne-.-


Kass vs Malz is a pretty funky mindgames battle, if you can chicken Malz out before he Es you can always land a Q and run, as Kass' cast animation on Q is like nonexistant; you need fast hands though. You also need Malz to be slow- I run Anivia quints on Malz so I can almost always catch up to E when he goes for a Q, so he really needs to abuse the 150 range (ie. dance back the moment I start running at him) or I'll always land an E.

For my part the #1 thing I do as Malz is keep Kass honest against creep - if he goes for a last hit I'll fire off a denying Q; he can either eat the shot or miss his last hit. After a certain point if I know his mana can't handle it I'll also push a wave or two just to fuck with him.

When you're Kass though if you can mindgame enough Qs down then you'll pick up a health advantage pretty fast and start landing some random Q->Es (later in levels; early the low level E does nothing). This matchup is entirely footsies.


I don't think there's any mindgames to it, lol, it's just animation canceling, same as most kass vs caster matchups
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#21825
Damn, 14-day IP boost on EU servers, I need to play on my EU account more.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#21826
E vs Q is animation canceling and footsies, landing Q is devastating for the Kassadin though and is definitely where mindgames and skillshotting comes into play. Bad/mediocre Malz players don't land the Q very well, whereas solid/good Malz players will consistently land Qs when you try to Q and cockblock you into a free Q->E combo. Good Kass players thus try to bait out and dodge the Q.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 19 2011 18:09 GMT
#21827
footsies? uta, you play fighting games?
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#21828
Only casually :x I'm just being infected by Neo's vocabulary
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 19 2011 18:11 GMT
#21829
oh. Neo plays fighting games?!?!
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
July 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#21830
On July 20 2011 03:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh. Neo plays fighting games?!?!


I think alot of fighting game knowledge and skill goes with league of legends. Footsies and Spacing are really important, as well as knowing matchups, and many of the same mindgames apply.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
July 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#21831
On July 20 2011 02:48 Seiuchi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 01:11 Two_DoWn wrote:
True enough. 1500 elo and I have to yell at people not to be in bot lane.

-_-


1500 elo is making me confused. I generally preform well every game, and some games we get amazing team comps and no one needs direction and it's pleasant stomps.

Then sometimes I get AD Soraka. I get so close to escaping but just can't.

Sounds about par for the course.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
July 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#21832
Never open crystal vs malz, I got raped so hard... I don't know what I was thinking.

Also what 150 range? Kass Q is 700, Malz Q is 900 E 700 auto 550.

I agree the part about mindgames. Dem mindgames rule all.
Stuck.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 19 2011 18:19 GMT
#21833
Malz E 650, whoops. Is a bit bigger than I thought.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 19 2011 18:21 GMT
#21834
The thing with kass right now is that the current reason behind the solos that get picked is that you want to be able to trade rather than to just win your lane or lead in cs. You no longer just toss your Q and cs with the best attack animation in the game.
Like it or not, kass is still squishy as shit and with exhaust's rise in popularity chances are you can fuck up his waves and make him look silly for leaping in and wasting his big nuke.

Also right now kass is a fairly shitty ganker compared to alternatives, and he needs to snowball to be consistent. People have stopped falling for dragon baits, depending on teamcomp I'd say that Kass is outclassed in his role by both Kat and Leblunk.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:22:44
July 19 2011 18:22 GMT
#21835
man, you had me going there until you said Kat. 8/10
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
July 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#21836
Ohh TL LoL needs a rating system I like Smash's idea alot 9.5/10
FADC
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-19 18:32:09
July 19 2011 18:30 GMT
#21837
lol...
No new meme please.

I mean if you make a thorough post and do 8/10, sure, go for it. But I rather not people post a single sentence + a rating or worse yet, just a rating. That's mundane spamming.

Thanks.

Edit: haha, and for the record, I'm with Smash. Agreed with r33k until his suggestions.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 19 2011 18:38 GMT
#21838
I tend to make judgments based on feel and then figure out why I felt that way later. I don't like Kass because he loses too many lane matchups and has a hard time hitting his power level... and even if he does I feel like he's lost a lot of his battle control due to jumpers and the nerf to silence and his slow cooldown. Back when I used to play him you could dictate battles and flow of game, I no longer get that feeling from him. As such I don't even really care how viable he is or whatnot, I just don't get what I want from him anymore.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
July 19 2011 18:38 GMT
#21839
On July 20 2011 03:09 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
footsies? uta, you play fighting games?


Speaking of which, Fakesteve, I need you to body me in AE.

freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
July 19 2011 18:39 GMT
#21840
On July 20 2011 03:13 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2011 03:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
oh. Neo plays fighting games?!?!


I think alot of fighting game knowledge and skill goes with league of legends. Footsies and Spacing are really important, as well as knowing matchups, and many of the same mindgames apply.



LOL when someone buys a Guardian ANgel, dies and is about to respawn, and we stand on top of him waiting, I always call it okizeme lol
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