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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 19 2011 05:38 spinesheath wrote: And here's where Kog'Maw says hello: Midgame caster with 750 autoattack range. Ehh I honestly consider him a ranged AD <_< just like teemo. Of course there's exceptions, just that if your only ranged champion is soraka you're going to run into trouble. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On July 19 2011 05:47 Southlight wrote: Except ranged AD is the ideal method of taking down tanks, but we can ignore that aspect. Tanks or Tanky deeps? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 19 2011 04:36 Hynda wrote: To be fair the players we see today are unlikey to keep being the top players if LoL takes of as a proper E-sport. There are very few of the Americans that I see have any potential to stay in it if some really serious guys goes in for it properly. Don't get me wrong they are all great solo players, but that is all they are. Hell Chauster can't even stand up for his own opinion even when pretty much 95% of all posters agrees with him. Fnatic showed at dreamhack how easy it was to win with even the most basic of organization. I bet you that 5 1900's could easily win if they were coached by someone not playing. It's definitely possible. I think that a lot of the really talented players probably won't go anywhere. People like OddOne, Reginald, Chauster, and jiji. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if teams change and people get booted or replaced in the future. I agree with you that the players who are on top today won't be on top only if competitive LoL lasts for years and years to come. Also, unrelated, but I just saw this on CLG's website and while I don't really have a "favorite team" I really do like Chauster. And, frankly, this is ridiculous: http://clgaming.net/board/board39-reign-of-gaming/board40-blogs/board55-clgaming/2596-nesl-fiasco/ NESL admins calling him personally out and bashing one of the teams at their own tournament? And it's not even like they did anything unreasonable. TSM refused to let them change their lineup in game one when they said they made a mistake, but then TSM goes over the time limit and doesn't get random'd. CLG wasn't even calling out for a forfeit win that night when they very easily could have and honestly would have deserved it (TSM was down a guy after Chaox d/c'd). I dunno, maybe I'm being biased as I really do like Chauster and jiji (imo, they're not as dickish as most of the other top players) but this whole situation left a bad taste in my mouth. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On July 18 2011 17:00 overt wrote: I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now. Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays. TSM's biggest fault was sending Xpecial on support and having rainman play solo top. Reginald doesn't like Xpecial and that's his biggest mistake. HSGG actually has way more depth than he is given credit for, but while he, saint and chauster could go for aggressive and uncommon lineups Elementz and jiji are holding them down because they can't adapt to the playstyle. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i feel bad for chauster but i'm glad he's being strong about it | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On July 19 2011 03:04 Two_DoWn wrote: So I'm thinking about putting together a series of videos on how to win games LoL, escape from the state of mind called elo hell, and just generally make the playerbase of LoL not suck nearly as much. Would anybody be interested in this? Stuff covered would be things like debunking all of the myths at champ select (ie, we need ranged ad, we need a tank, we need ap, ect), late game objectives and positioning, how to jungle properly, how to troll properly (just for funsies), how to build a character properly, how to teamfight, ect. You can't make everyone pro, because then no one will be pro! People post things on the Riot forums saying like "Anyone can get above 1300 if they do X," which, mathematically, goes against the idea of a competitive ladder (if all ten players do X, half of them will still lose). People don't realize that elo isn't something you can just grind out by playing well, you have to actually be BETTER than the people above you. Maybe I'm just extremely selfish, but I don't get the notion of trying to make as many people better as possible. I'm fine with the idea of making teamliquid players better (like the Adopt-a-Baddie program), as that will improve my premade experience, as well as the forums, but as far as the rest of the playerbase is concerned, I'm fine with them being ignorant. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On July 19 2011 05:47 Southlight wrote: Except ranged AD is the ideal method of taking down tanks, but we can ignore that aspect. Luckily Kog excels at that as well. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On July 19 2011 04:22 HyperionDreamer wrote: I don't know, that teamfight wasn't really a good example of anything except bad positioning by Fnatic... I agree that MF immediately exploded to Lee and Akali, but Fnatic was already one down when Swain got killed.... 4v5 teamfights are kind of hard to win, especially since Alistar/Jarvan/Taric moved up to attempt to save the Swain and left MF completely open to Akali/Lee Sin... There are other team fights you can examine (38:45, 42:00, 44:30). In almost all of them MF is completely ineffective. The moment any team fight starts, save the one Epik lost, at least two champions are in her face. My point isn't that either Epik or Fnatic played impeccably or that Epik's setup is some ideal to which anyone looking to defeat the EU meta should adhere. Rather, I'm drawing attention to a potential angle by which the EU meta can be attacked. All the free farm in the world hardly matters if the first thing you do with it every team fight is die/run away. It's possible it's a dead end, but it's something to consider. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Model looks badass. Too bad I won't be around for 3 weeks or so to play him.  | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
In my eyes these are the things CLG has to do if they want to keep up with the other teams currently dominating/prepearing for the future. They have to find a strong support player, or expand their current rooster to contain support players. and/or They can develop a new Meta that beats the current one. and/or Certain players needs to expand their champion repetoire to adjust to the current meta. TBH I think they can do atleast two of the above, but they need to work on it now, not in 5-6 months time (even in 2 months in might be to late) and without further words on CLG team lets move on to the next CLG matter (lol, chauster called them the drama queens of LoL with a reason in his post apperantly  )oh Jaden you weird weird person. While I have never been a supporter of CLG, NESL I have even less respect for atm. That should have been either a rematch or a hard random in favor of CLG, TSM really didn't deserver that pick when they exceeded the time limit given by the NESL's own rules. But while CLG for once opted to not bitch about it (which I am astonished and can hardly believe, please do correct me if they actually did bitch and whine about it), they had all the reason to do it for once. As far as the aftermatch goes: You don't go out publically like this NESL admin did bashing on the team that actually followed a fair play and allowed this to go through, getting beaten by TSM and then calling GG and starts to prepear for the next time they meet (however CLG does this). The conversation with Samsterlicious seems taken out of context, even though the threat to DQ TGM (is that even a team lol? I didn't know) is a serious case of unproffesionalism. tbh it seems Jaden is a lot more unproffesional than just biased (even though I dont think I have ever seen him utter a bad word about TSM, might have something to do that I haven't talked with him outside of #solomid.lol ) and while I remember him giving away a vent server to get Mod rights to it, this was a solution that was given to TSM, pre Jaden's NESL days as far as I remember, after their old vent got hacked and stolen by someone. I also remember the new vent that was given to TSM went on to be hacked aswell, and Jaden sitting there for 8-10 Hours straight just right clicking names that shouldn't be there while he tried to get the hackers away. And while I have great admiration for his work with the TSM vent and the IRC channel, I can hardly say he was ever admin material for an organization such as the NESL. If this was any of the ESL guys I have talked with they would have been kicked as admins (keep in mind these are non payed non consuqence admins) immediatly. And I think that is what I have to say about that whole matter (I couldn't find Jaden on irc or I might have added more but I think this small text wall might crit anyways) in other news: yo Devil you back now? or have you been back for a long time? zz I need to play more on EU now... also need to decide what server I should play on. | ||
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broz0rs
United States2294 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
On July 19 2011 06:44 broz0rs wrote: perhaps his ult will turn him into a giant raging fire monkey just like in early Dragon Ball Z? one can hope. lol ofc then they would have to make it so that he attacked anyone who came close to him, friend and foe. And the only way to beat him was to cut his tale huehuehueh | ||
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Hynda
Sweden2226 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On July 19 2011 05:58 r33k wrote: TSM's biggest fault was sending Xpecial on support and having rainman play solo top. Reginald doesn't like Xpecial and that's his biggest mistake. HSGG actually has way more depth than he is given credit for, but while he, saint and chauster could go for aggressive and uncommon lineups Elementz and jiji are holding them down because they can't adapt to the playstyle. LLLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL, i don't think that you even believe what you just posted. Didn't you just switch jiji and hotshot? o.o | ||
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