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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
December 10 2010 04:05 GMT
#2061
Was this recorded?
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 04:10:13
December 10 2010 04:06 GMT
#2062
Eski is really good at first but as you watch more of his games you see that he's really just more polite about complaining about teammates etc. Jiji is definitely the best streamer since he's a top top tier player and super chill too.

edit: Yeah, that Eski game where his team could have won but didn't for like 25 minutes was recorded, but Livestream deleted all his VODs recently so it's gone now. It was pretty funny though since they had TF + Shen and his teammates just didn't ever realize they could just kill the Nexus. He was having fun waiting to see if they could figure it out themselves, but eventually he told them to just right-click the nexus and his teammates said "no, you have to kill inhib first" or something, lol. I guess they changed that in a recent patch though because now you do have to have an inhib down to kill the nexus, but when that game was played the inhibs made the base turrets invincible and the base turrets made the nexus invincible (so the nexus was open to a backdoor for forever).
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 10 2010 04:46 GMT
#2063
I don't know why, but a lot of people don't realize you only need to kill 1 inhib and then the nexus towers are no longer invincible, and once nexus towers are down you can hit the nexus. For some reason I see a lot of people thinking you need to kill all 3 inhibs to kill the nexus.... :/
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 10 2010 04:52 GMT
#2064
On December 10 2010 13:46 BlackPaladin wrote:
I don't know why, but a lot of people don't realize you only need to kill 1 inhib and then the nexus towers are no longer invincible, and once nexus towers are down you can hit the nexus. For some reason I see a lot of people thinking you need to kill all 3 inhibs to kill the nexus.... :/

I think that just has to do with people having poor judgment of when they can and can't get a nexus tower and backing out/going to other lanes as the "safer" play.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
December 10 2010 04:56 GMT
#2065
On December 10 2010 10:33 Juicyfruit wrote:
Nasus coming to mid with

- armor red
- armor yellow
- armor quints
- 21-defense mastery
- doran's shield

= 70 armor, 20HP / 5, and 10% lifesteal

What do? Let freefarm till he rolls u?

I just did that :D

you're gonna get farmed but u do absolutely nothing to stop the enemy ranged dps from farming, so it's really let the enemy dps freefarm till his team rolls you
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Ruken
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States858 Posts
December 10 2010 05:17 GMT
#2066
Riot streaming an inhouse preview for tomorrow's Ionia vs Noxus match:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/7089
MIK Terran
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 05:48:38
December 10 2010 05:46 GMT
#2067
On December 10 2010 13:56 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 10:33 Juicyfruit wrote:
Nasus coming to mid with

- armor red
- armor yellow
- armor quints
- 21-defense mastery
- doran's shield

= 70 armor, 20HP / 5, and 10% lifesteal

What do? Let freefarm till he rolls u?

I just did that :D

you're gonna get farmed but u do absolutely nothing to stop the enemy ranged dps from farming, so it's really let the enemy dps freefarm till his team rolls you


Depends, if it's someone like tristana or corki maybe you don't want to trade freefarm, but if it's like Ashe or MF, who gets absolultely get wrecked by Nasus in teamfights (for most of the game), or if it's someone like nidalee/ez/sivir, then I think it's a good deal.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 10 2010 05:57 GMT
#2068
http://www.livestream.com/5hitcombo

Streaming unranked 5s!
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
December 10 2010 07:27 GMT
#2069
5hitcombo quote of the day: "Playing Yi...it's kind of like playing Protoss."
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
December 10 2010 07:32 GMT
#2070
On December 10 2010 14:17 Ruken wrote:
Riot streaming an inhouse preview for tomorrow's Ionia vs Noxus match:
http://www.own3d.tv/live/7089


Awesome, thanks!
Moderator<:3-/-<
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 10 2010 07:37 GMT
#2071
I didn't even know I got that quadra until we were like at the tower and it said "QUADRA KILL"

Then I was like

"fuck yeah"
*stance*
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
December 10 2010 07:46 GMT
#2072
On December 10 2010 10:25 r33k wrote:
Eve is viable, but brazilians have nothing on the spanish. My account would be 1700 if spain did not exist as a country.

Pro tryndameres with full crit runepage, who suicide at the first opportunity of juking/harassing, taking the first rank in Q at lv3 and not being able to A: tank dark binds for others since they take cleanse and B: do enough damage to bring a stunned morgana to half hp.

If it weren't for spain and turkey EU would at least be close to the US server in skill level.


That makes me feel good . Blame it on other countries.

But I actually have to agree, in Spain gamers are mostly kids who just play, no thinking, they're already too good. I usually play with 2 friends online, but we went to an internetcafe? once where people play games, and we joined the guys who spend days in there in a 5v5. I proceeded to destroy as jungle Olaf vs a duo top Olaf+WW lane and Udyr+Trynda bot.

Before the game they didnt agree on me taking smite and wanting to build tank, they told me to build only ASPD cause Olaf steals so much HP. This were 400+ normal wins guys, so yeah, Spanish LoL players GENERALLY suck.

We are soccer World Champs and have Nadal and Pau Gasol though :D.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 09:53:16
December 10 2010 09:51 GMT
#2073
EU ladder sux so hard, at the 1850~ rating there are still alot of people who don't know how to jungle propperly but still pick them, last night i even had a game with nidalee and teemo on my team. (which we suprisingly won)

The EU metagame lies around slowing alot atm, picks like ashe, anivia, kassadin win games and only 10% of the teamfights are about baron or drake.

No one cares about what's in the jungle as long as there is a jungle.

I am 1 of the 5~ people that uses teleport.

People finally figured out mordecaiser is not a succesfull pick.

I could give you a list of who the decent players (in my opinion) in the top 50 are if you want
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-10 10:00:28
December 10 2010 09:59 GMT
#2074
On December 10 2010 18:51 mercurial wrote:
EU ladder sux so hard, at the 1850~ rating there are still alot of people who don't know how to jungle propperly but still pick them, last night i even had a game with nidalee and teemo on my team. (which we suprisingly won)

The EU metagame lies around slowing alot atm, picks like ashe, anivia, kassadin win games and only 10% of the teamfights are about baron or drake.

No one cares about what's in the jungle as long as there is a jungle.

I am 1 of the 5~ people that uses teleport.

People finally figured out mordecaiser is not a succesfull pick.

I could give you a list of who the decent players (in my opinion) in the top 50 are if you want


purely from watching top 20 player streams, you see bottom pick heroes all the time in that rank. At least from the people who have gotten high enough they just don't care, lol.

It's the ones that are just a couple steps below mediocre, like nasus, that I really never see getting picked up.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 10 2010 10:47 GMT
#2075
On December 10 2010 07:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
I (eve) just got counterjungled by double cv + shen + blitz. They literally caught me at every single camp I was trying to clear. I couldn't really afford wards either.

Well, I am a bad jungler in the first place, but what would you suggest against this kind of stuff?

I dunno...cry?
Go lane?
When you jungle Eve what is your path/items?
I'm having trouble deciding on a route and build so I usually chicken out and lane AP Eve and either snowball and destroy or suck and feed.

I actually play a VERY cheesy Eve.
I start at Lizard with Red Elixier + 5 and 2 exp quints. Allows me to gank while all the lanes are still at level 1 and I am at lvl 2. Even if it fails (yay, flash), it puts the enemy at a huge disadvantage because he just had to blow flash, lost a chunk of health, and is level 1. I also use Ignite/Smite right now, because it gives me a chance of killing people even if they flash away.
1/15/14, 9 APen marks, 2 exp quints, 1 AD quint, 9 armor seals, 9 AP glyphs. Still toying around with this stuff.
Items are usually Wriggles, Mercs, Hog, Phage, then either more defense or Triforce. I'm not really playing her as burst assassin lategame. Since I scared the shit out of my enemies earlygame they usually are well equipped with oracles so I prefer to switch it up and make them waste their nukes on someone who will survive it and then heal back for 650 HP everytime someone dies.
Eve also is good at taking dragons and towers with her ultimate, so I try to sneak stuff like that.

My jungling pattern is: Red buff, gank/improvise.
Usually I will take blue after a gank in mid, then just go through the small camps in our jungle unless I see more gank options (there are plenty at those early levels).

However, in this particular game, Blitz and Shen were double jungling. Blitz and Karthus had clairvoyance. They had a Kassadin and Ezreal. Mobility/global ults to the max. Blitz pulled me just after I finished red and 1 of the small lizards, shen was also there, but I managed to get away. I came back for the last of the lizards and ganked Karthus mid, but since he got more time to level up and also had flash, I didn't get a kill.
Not sure where I went next, but wherever it was, Blitz and Shen were ganking me. Shen occasionally managed to taunt me during stealth (breaks stealth because I attack him) even though I was running in stupid patterns to avoid that.
To be fair, those two were underleveled quite a bit, but they still had some good ganks on our lanes and they got quite a few kills on me, partially thanks to the high mobility of their whole team.
Shen also got an Oracles really quickly, messing up my desperate attempts at keeping some map control. So they were able to pick us apart with ganks and just snowballed into something like 32-11 team kills.

Our lineup wasn't exactly great. Normal games, you know. So I don't give too much about this loss, but this counter jungling gave me some headaches. I knew I wouldn't like it when I saw they had 2 clairvoyances, but I didn't expect it to be this bad.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 10 2010 12:56 GMT
#2076
intensive counterjungling can really only be dealt with by your teammates regularly coming to help you when you are in trouble, which naturally doesnt happen much in solo queue (i'm assuming)

on the other hand, if you can avoid dying, then you essentially screw shen and blitz over. If you think about it, they are investing both a summoner spell and massive amounts of gold and exp to screw over just 1 jungler. that means you can skimp on items (and tank more money into wards) and become underleveled, because they will be just as fucked over, so if you look at the teams, its 1 guy who's underleveled to hell and cant do anything vs 2 guys who are underleveled to hell and cant do anything. just another way of looking at it.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 10 2010 13:28 GMT
#2077
hey guy I was wondering what the standard rune set up for a nuker/dps/tank would be? Currently I only have the sivir set up that yiruru wrote and I use it for all dps. Not sure about what to do for other types of champions. Can someone also explain briefly all the rune acronyms? I know mp5 = mana regen/5 sec, mr = magic resist, apen/mpen = armor/magic penetration. How do I distinguish between the different kinds of mp5 runes or does it not matter? Thanks
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 10 2010 13:31 GMT
#2078
mp5/lv or mp5pl is mana regen per 5 per level (rising mana regen based on your level)
flat mp5 is a set amount of extra regen

If you're looking for a caster page, a good base caster page is movespeed quints, magic penetration reds, and mp5/lv yellows/blues. It's a pretty standard caster page for casters that use mana.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 10 2010 13:31 GMT
#2079
You want the mp5/lvl runes (clarity) because they catch up to the flat mp5 runes very early on. "Standard" runes may be as follows:
Nuker: Flat HP quints, mpen reds, mp5/lvl yellows, flat cdr or mp5/lvl or ap/lvl blues
DPS: Arpen or flat HP quints, arpen reds, mp5/lvl yellows, mp5/lvl blues
Tank: Flat HP or movement speed quints, arpen or mpen reds, flat dodge or mres yellows, mres blues
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 10 2010 13:40 GMT
#2080
Whenever someone talks about mp5 runes they most likely mean mp5/lvl. In the rare case that flat mp5 is meant, it should be specified.
I wouldn't get dodge runes if you are trying to set up a standard page. They are way too expensive and actually really situational. If you want more defense against physical damage, flat armor seals are awesome.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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