• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:09
CEST 05:09
KST 12:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage1Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool51
StarCraft 2
General
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
China Uses Video Games to Sh…
TrAiDoS
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11328 users

Removed blog

Forum Index > Invisible Forum
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-30 23:19:36
December 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#1
AdministratorBreak the chains
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 17 2013 19:52 GMT
#2
remember all the things that she gave/taught/showed you that helped mold who you are today and honor those things for the rest of your life. In that way she will never be forgotten
Sc2 Terran Coach, top 16GM NA - interested in coaching? Message me on teamliquid!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37069 Posts
December 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#3
My deepest condolences. Funerals are never enjoyable experiences. But they do make you stronger so keep your head held high and your spirit going strong Zealously!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
December 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#4
my condolences to you and to her.
Does not matter whether you believe what the priest or not. If you honor the memory and attend, that's important.
Stay strong
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 17 2013 20:18 GMT
#5
My condolences. Take your time. It's only natural that it's fucking hard. I lost my uncle this friday... and it blows. I dunno, man.

This rough patch will end and you control its destiny. Deal with it the way you want to.

Zealously fighting!
The Bomber boy
Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
December 17 2013 20:21 GMT
#6
Condolences.

I have been to a couple of funerals but not of anyone I was close with, one for an uncle and one for an aunt. For me they followed the same pattern in general based on the catholic / christian rites but they each have their own feeling to it. During those days I mainly just felt sad for feeling the general loss with their death and the sorrow of their family. I haven't discussed them or their lives much at all with anyone, but the couple of times I did bring it up it feels very valuable and worthwile to do so as people like to remember them. I haven't felt much need for mourning, so I can't really relate there. But my advise otherwise is to find some opportunities to cherish the memories by yourself or with someone else.

I can also imagine that no one wants to strike out during the ceremonies so people look peaceful in a way. But you won´t be alone with the feeling of lack of closure and people will appreciate when they can relate to you.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
December 17 2013 21:57 GMT
#7
My condolences Zealously.

In a way its natural for you to feel the way you are, you are still in great pain over your loss and feel almost betrayed that others don't feel the same. Truth is though, everybody is in pain, they just express it differently, perhaps some just wanted to get it over sooner to get back home and cry in the private. Don't put too much thought into it.

I wish there was something I could tell you to make the pain go away, I really do, but unfortunately the only thing I can say is that time will eventually heal it, what I can say though is this.

Its easy now for you to shut down and isolate yourself, you may be feeling so bad that you don't want to be around others, you may feel you are going to make them sad, or worst, you may feel guilty you are alive and she is not.
If she loved you as a friend as much as you loved her then, she wouldn't want you to continue to suffer. The best way to continue to honor her memory is by living every day to the best of your abilities. Don't shut yourself in, go out and try talking to people it will make you feel better and it will ease your suffering and heal you sooner.

I hope it all helps and stay strong man.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
December 17 2013 23:32 GMT
#8
Condolences to you all... everyone deals with losses differently, find your own path!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 17 2013 23:59 GMT
#9
First off condolences to you and all your friends and family that feel her loss as well.

It's always impossible to come up with the right words to say to someone who has experienced a loss, especially if you don't know them. However, it is important for everyone to handle it in their own way. Your way may be to hang on to her memory and your mourning, and who's to say if that's wrong or right. If those others at the funeral have come to terms with her loss, who's to say they're wrong either.

The important thing for you is to keep your head up, because (as cliché as it sounds) I'm sure she wouldn't want her loss burdening you too much. Don't forget her, but remember her fondly and let the good memories of her help you move on.

One final thing: those others at the funeral may have seemed to accept the funeral as the conclusion to her life and seemed to have moved on. However, I have been to enough funerals to know that it is commonplace for people who have lost someone close to them to put on a brave face in public, especially at the funeral, and to seem okay. However, it is more than likely that these people feel similarly to the way that you do, they just don't show it. You never really know how much someone is grieving.

Anyways I'm sorry for rambling but I hope you're okay, and best wishes to you and all those close to Zeyna.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44252 Posts
December 18 2013 02:13 GMT
#10
Condolences.

I actually dont know what to say aside from stay strong i have also never been good at funerals it gives me the void that cant be filled for a long time until i finally realize that the person is dead. What your experiencing right now might be the same as mine so just stay strong.
this is a quote
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
December 18 2013 02:14 GMT
#11
I'm sorry for your loss.

There's probably plenty of good advice out there, and I could probably tell you some shit about how the human brain is designed to forget trauma to maximize our chances of survival. But it's so hard, because how does everyone move on with life, like she never existed? How could they?

The thing is, she would never have wanted to see you hurt or resentful. She'd probably want you to be happy, so celebrate her memory.

Here's to Zeyna.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
December 18 2013 05:43 GMT
#12
It's okay. There is nothing we can say that can help you, but I'd like to let you know it is okay to feel the way you do. Don't hate yourself for how you feel, or hate others for the way they are trying to deal with the chemicals that are exploding in all directions inside of their brains too.

You are doing okay. Just know that even some 22 year old kid read this at 5 in the morning, and thought of you wherever you are. I'll think of you a few times today, and i hope you see a glimmer of hope for the future, and not just dispair from the past.

I'm really sorry for your loss, and for hers as well.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
Kaeru
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Sweden552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 08:13:48
December 18 2013 08:13 GMT
#13
--- Nuked ---
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42383 Posts
December 18 2013 09:38 GMT
#14
My condolences.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-18 09:50:39
December 18 2013 09:50 GMT
#15
Nobody is good with funerals Zealously and there is no advice that works on everyone. You will have to find your own way of dealing with this. And you will find it, i'm sure of that.

I'm not going to find the right words. So i can only say i'm sorry for your loss and i hope you will cope with it in the best way possible.

+ Show Spoiler +

I hope i didn't make english mistakes that could be misinterpreted.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
December 18 2013 11:07 GMT
#16
Everyone grieves in their own way, you can't hold it against people. You have to work on dealing your own way, and you will find your own way.

I know someone who didn't even show up to his own little brother's funeral. While it's odd from the outside looking in. I respect his decision if it's what he felt like he needed to do. The ceremony itself is mostly a bunch of religious jumping through hoops IMO anyway. It's not about the funeral itself, the funeral is just a way to show your support to the family.

The real closure comes from within, from each person who knew her. Celebrate the memory, keep it with you, think about things and learn any lesson you can from the life she led. Pain and sadness are human, and everyone deals with them differently so don't judge people if they're not dealing with them the way you think they should.

Again, I'm sorry for your loss.
LiquidDota Staff
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
December 18 2013 16:40 GMT
#17
Keep fighting the good fight. You're a great guy, the way you feel only underlines it.

Plain and simple? Life sucks sometimes. But I'm sure you know that it's also amazing at times. It might suck harder than ever before right now and nothing but time may be able to heal the wounds. Just don't get so lost in it that you miss out on the amazing times when they come around again. For example - I'm really looking forward to meeting you at a tournament sooner or later

My honest condolences. Hang in there!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
enord
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
France258 Posts
December 18 2013 19:48 GMT
#18
sorry for your loss
mournings are far better/more worthwhile than formal ceremonies in my humble opinion
people who need/want to be in a room, tell stories about the departed, unhindered by traditions or rituals

never forget her, just live like you did not know you did before, like we all do .. one day at a time

and hug the people you love, trust me, it helps
make / have a good tl .. ohhh and i want my icon back :°D
Pewpz
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada21 Posts
December 18 2013 22:03 GMT
#19
On December 18 2013 04:46 Zealously wrote:
So Zeyna's funeral was today. It wasn't a big thing - me and my siblings were invited, a few friends close to Zeyna's parents, but other than them and us most were family.
I've never been good with funerals. The fact that I don't actually believe in anything the priest said today, the things Zeyna also truly believed in, makes me feel like an awful person, but I try to make the ceremony my own in a kind of way - dedicate the time to the still vivid memory of my friend instead, what really matters to me, instead.

I had a speech prepared which I scrapped. I did still speak, because there was so much about Zeyna - her past, my memories of her, and the future she'd mapped out, that I wanted to share with everyone. I don't remember what I said, exactly, but I hope I did her memory justice.
The ceremony was treated with some kind of morbid finality among some of the others attending the funeral, almost like they were getting ready to close the chapter in their lives that Zeyna was, as if the funeral provided any kind of meaningful conclusion.

It didn't. Not for me, anyway. Perhaps I haven't fully come to terms with the fact, perhaps I'm desperately clinging to what I don't want to admit is a memory, but I secretly detest them for seemingly letting go so easily. It might not be healthy, and to anyone else I'd give the advice to come to terms with it, but I can't, yet. I'm not ready to accept and forget so quickly, partly because the pain is still very real and partly because I don't want that pain to ever go away. It feels fundamentally wrong, to me.

I don't really know what to write, I just needed to get some of the helplessness and confusion off my chest.



I think you're discrediting the "ceremony" and religious aspect of this a little too much, and it's adding to your feelings of anger and loss.

You say that you "secretly detest them" because of the ceremony, the religiosity of it, and the way that it seemed to be a means of moving on. I can tell you, as a fellow atheist/non-believer, that's not something to detest anyone for. Just because they had a ceremony involving rites and language that we don't believe in doesn't mean they're not hurting too; and it most certainly doesn't mean that they'll all move on faster because of it.

Everyone deals with loss differently. Some people cling to their faith to help them cope and rationalize what has happened. It doesn't mean it's right or wrong, it's just different.

You can't let that difference taint your view of how these people cared for your friend. They hurt too, they're just showing it differently.

I'm sorry for your loss. I went through the same situation recently, and I can tell you, even the most religious people will be crippled by their loss for some time. Don't doubt that for a second - and don't let that doubt cloud your view on what the ceremony meant for them.

Like I said, it's just a different way to express the same feelings you have. You don't have to agree, just recognize it for what it is. You're all in the same boat trying to deal with the same rough water the best way you know how.

docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 18 2013 22:32 GMT
#20
Don't begin to heal yet. You have to grieve first. You won't know what to do for now, you won't know for a while, that's a good thing. That's natural. Healing takes time, let it take that time. A funeral is not the conclusion of a life, it's just the cessation of new memories with that person.
User was warned for too many mimes.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
00:00
TLMC #22: Map Judging #1
CranKy Ducklings62
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 233
ROOTCatZ 78
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5876
Sea 38
Noble 27
Dota 2
monkeys_forever926
NeuroSwarm157
League of Legends
JimRising 734
Counter-Strike
taco 659
C9.Mang0325
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox505
Mew2King64
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor64
Other Games
summit1g10651
tarik_tv5085
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1078
BasetradeTV122
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo563
• Stunt103
Other Games
• Scarra761
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6h 52m
PiGosaur Cup
20h 52m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
uThermal 2v2 Last Chance Qualifiers 2026
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.