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shiroiusagi
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Last Edited: 2015-08-04 19:15:21
August 03 2015 18:26 GMT
#1

How to play against stealth


by [Phantom]

Stealth heroes are, simply put, a pain to deal with. They are sneaky, strong and very annoying. More than once have each of us been victims of their power. But soon, their reign of terror will be over; it is time to teach them a lesson.

In this guide, we will explain how to detect stealthed heroes, how to draft against them, and of course, how to play against them.

The Basics



Stealth is a mode where a hero becomes untargetable and difficult to see. The two most prominent examples of this are Nova and Zeratul, which share the Permanent Cloaking trait. This trait enables them to automatically enter stealth after 3 seconds of not receiving or dealing damage. Other heroes also have non-permanent stealth related abilities, such as Tyrande’s Heroic Shadowstalk. In this guide, however, we will mainly focus on the first two heroes and how to counter permanent stealth.

While Stealth makes heroes harder to see, it does not mean they are invisible as the heroes will distort the the light where they are standing, commonly called a ‘shimmer’. It is not hard to see if you are actively looking for it.That's where we get to our first tip: Against heroes with stealth, you’ll need to look for that shimmer constantly. When you see the shimmer, you can back up and wait for reinforcement or pull them out of stealth by using an AoE or Skillshot ability against them.


How to Play Against Stealth



When you ask for advice about cloaked heroes, most people will just tell you to look for their shimmer. That’s just the first step, let’s go a little deeper. To better understand how to play against them, you first need to understand how to play as them.

First, let’s talk about how they behave in the laning phase. Both Zeratul and Nova don’t have a lot of health and aren’t particularly great duelers. They will rarely initiate a direct engagement; most of the time, they will wait until you get out of position and attack you when you least expect it. Usually if you detect the shimmer and attack it they will retreat, because a big part of their strength is their surprise factor. If you know where they are, they typically won't be able to do much.

While they can deal a lot of damage pretty fast, they still need a couple of seconds to do so. As with most heroes, after they use their abilities a few auto attacks may still be needed to finish the enemy off. Because of this they will rarely attack a player if he is close to his gates, or on his side of the map. Instead, they will wait for the enemy to either overextend, or for one of their teammates (usually one with a stun or root) to catch him when he gets out of position and then finish him off. If you’re playing against a stealth hero, after you destroy a minion wave check your minimap and surroundings. If you don’t see Nova and Zeratul in the minimap, back up. Even if you could push down a tower, don’t do it. Wait for the next minion wave to come or for those sneaky assassins to reappear on the map.

Stealth heroes also prefer to gank enemy heroes that are alone in a lane because this will deny the enemy team experience, whilst also being an easier kill. If the enemy Nova attacks a squishy hero like Kael’thas when he isn’t alone in a lane, his teammate could protect him, heal him or even burst Nova down. Furthermore, two players are more likely to see the shimmer or notice Nova is missing from the map than one. When given the option of attacking a low health pool hero that is alone or another low health hero that is accompanied, it’s obvious who she’ll try to kill first. If you are alone don’t stand far from the gate. If you are hero without many hit points and are worried about a stealthed hero sneaking up, you should try to ask someone to rotate to your lane.


Map awareness is crucial. Let's look at this Tyrael for example. He is a Warrior and has a good escape ability, but he overextended with no mana. Even though he was almost full health, he couldn’t do anything to save himself because he was far away from his gates. His mistake was thinking it was safe to pressure a lane without paying attention to his mana and realizing Zeratul was missing on the minimap.

When cloaked heroes see you are playing carefully and safe, they may start to poke to lower your health for a future gank. When you are below half health it is dangerous to be in the lane, even if you don't overextend. If you receive that kind of damage, don’t be afraid to Hearthstone away. It's fine, just make sure you call a teammate to cover the lane so you don’t lose any experience.

Some maps force you to rotate to a certain place like a temple or a tribute spawn. A good ganker knows this, so he will wait in the jungle in the path where the enemy hero will come and attempt to kill him. For this reason try to not move alone to the map objective, especially if you are a low health pool hero. In case you need to travel alone, check the minimap to see if the stealth heroes are visible. If you can't see them, moving through the map behind your outer structures is a safe way to reach your destination. It may take you a couple seconds longer to arrive, but if you get killed on your way to an objective, you’ll never get there.

In the mid and lategame, the best counter to these kind of heroes is staying close to your teammates. You should rarely be alone against any kind of team composition at this stage of the game, but against stealth heroes this is particularly true. Moving close to them will prevent you from being picked off by stealthed enemies as attacking you will expose them and make them vulnerable.

While you should always look for the shimmer, sometimes you will miss it. You might think you are safe, but if you don’t see them on the minimap, you aren’t. The best piece of advice we can give you in these cases is that whenever an enemy Stealth hero is missing, always assume he’s right beside you, waiting for the moment you overextend. Don’t fall into their trap. If you follow this simple rule you will rarely die against these kind of heroes.

If you start thinking about how they behave you can then act accordingly to reduce the risk of getting killed. Reducing risks is exactly the way to counter stealthed heroes. If you push a lane when you don’t know where the enemy is, that’s an unnecessary risk, and you know what people call unnecessary risks? Mistakes. Stealth heroes are the best when it comes to punishing positional mistakes, but this also applies to nearly any hero, stealthed or otherwise. If you push without realizing that an enemy hero is missing, you are putting yourself in unnecessary danger as they may be preparing a gank. The difference is that it is much easier for stealth heroes to kill you since they can get to a better position. Play safe, play smart, and you’ll have a better time against them.

That covers the general gameplay. Now we’re going to quickly cover the specifics of the two stealthed heroes we’ve discussed earlier in the guide, Zeratul and Nova, to give you an idea of how to play against each of them.

Nova and Zeratul are both Stealth heroes but that’s roughly where the similarities end. Nova is a long range Assassin with no escape, and her main source of damage comes from her Q ability Snipe. Permanent Cloaking and her holo-decoys are her only survivability abilities until level 20 when she gets access to Bolt of the Storm. Her Snipe ability can be dodged and has a 10 second cooldown. Additionally, if you take the talent Spell Shield some of the damage from Snipe can be mitigated, lessening Nova’s stealth kill potential.Her lack of sustained damage alongside her low health pool means she is also a terrible dueler. If you do see an opportunity to catch a stealth champ by surprise with little risk, take it. Even low health pool champions such as Jaina and Kael'Thas can win a duel against even the strongest Nova players‏ if they get the first spell off.

Zeratul is a bit more tricky. He is a melee Assassin, which means he needs to get very close to you in order to deal most of his damage, but he has very high mobility in comparison to other heroes. While Nova is vulnerable if you manage to spot her, Zeratul can simply blink away. This means a Zeratul player will behave slightly different.

Since he has slightly less burst than Nova, when ganking he will often require the help from his teammates to secure a kill. If you notice any strange behaviour from his teammates in the lane chances are Zeratul is around. If your opponent decides to engage with you in lane for no reason, let you push so you overextend or tries to lure you into a kill, check the minimap. If you don’t see Zeratul fall back and wait until you know it’s safe. A roaming squad of Zeratul and another hero, usually with Crowd Control abilities, is very common too so pay attention to missing heroes across the board. The best way of dealing with him on a team fight is to use CC on him when he approaches a teammate to not let him blink away, after that he will die immediately if you focus him due to his low health pool.


As you can see, Zeratul often tries to atack the backline, so even ranged assassins must be careful and stay closer to their team. RIP Kael'thas, we hardly knew you.

Drafting against Stealth



Some heroes do better against stealth than others. Tassadar is an obvious counter pick to stealth as his trait is able to reveal them (make them visible and targetable), and this ability can be enhanced through talents. His skill Plasma Shield is able to help you and your allies from being bursted down as well.

There is also the Clairvoyance talent, which reveals enemy heroes in an area, including stealthed ones. The heroes that currently can pick this talent are Kael'thas, Murky, Nazeebo and Uther, while Brightwing and Rehgar have special versions called ‘Peekaboo!’ and ‘Farsight’. While we don’t recommend picking one of these heroes exclusively because of Clairvoyance, it may be an important favor when deciding between two similar picks. For example, maybe you own both LiLi and Uther. If the enemy picked a stealth hero, you might want to give the edge to Uther because of his Clairvoyance talent.

When drafting, keep in mind both Nova and Zeratul are burst heroes. They will come, deal their damage fast, and then leave to search for their next victim. Heroes with low health or no escape abilities are more vulnerable to them. Jaina, Kael’thas and Sylvanas are examples of this. The first two have a very low health pool and don’t feature any escape ability until level 20 when they get access to the talent Bolt of the Storm, but Sylvanas present us a different scenario. While Jaina and Kael’thas don’t have any ability to let them escape if they get caught, they have a plethora of AoE abilities and defensive talents such as Improved Ice Block and Clairvoyance that enable them to reveal and react to enemy stealthed heroes. On the other hand, Sylvanas does have an escape ability named Haunting Wave, but it is also her only reliable way of revealing an enemy hero, and that means you need to waste your escape ability. As you can guess that puts you in a very vulnerable position. Does this mean that you can’t pick any of these heroes against Zeratul and Nova? Not really, but they are certainly more vulnerable than others. We suggest you think about the rest of your picks and adjust your gameplay accordingly.

Another example would be when picking an Assassin yourself. Let's say you are last pick and the enemy picked a Stealth hero. Your team needs an Assassin and you can play either Valla or Falstad. Falstad is a ranged Assassin that has both a Skillshot capable of revealing enemy heroes, and an escape ability, however his skill shot is hard to land. Valla also has a skillshot named Hungering Arrow capable of revealing enemy heroes, but she also features Multishot, a long range AoE ability. Since Multishot area of effect is pretty big it is pretty easy to reveal enemy heroes even if they move and you do it safely from a distance. In case of them getting too close, she also has the ability to escape. Since Valla is able to bring heroes out of Stealth easier, she is the preferred choice in this situation. Again, this doesn’t mean Falstad is not viable, it just means you’ll have a harder time playing with him.

One of the big factors that can contribute to your success is which healer you choose. There are three types of supports. Hybrid supports like Tyrande and Tassadar; Sustained Healers like Malfurion and LiLi; and Burst Healers like Rehgar and Uther. As we briefly hinted before, the best Supports against this type of heroes are Burst Healers. The two standouts are Uther and Tassadar. Tassadar is a special case because of his powerful Plasma Shield and Oracle trait, and Uther because he is the best burst healer in the game at the moment, and also features Clairvoyance in his talent set as mentioned previously.

Sometimes you won’t have the luxury of a burst healer. Maybe you picked Malfurion before they picked Zeratul for example. Malfurion alone can’t heal a hero fast enough to help your teammate survive being burst down. On those cases, picking Tassadar could save the day. His Plasma shield alongside Malfurion’s Regrowth work very well together. Combinations like these are in fact used by the pros not only when facing Stealth heroes, but against burst compositions in general.

Final thoughts



Stealth heroes are certainly tricky to play against, and they can easily punish the smallest mistake. They force a particular playstyle, and that’s part of the fun. Being given a difficult scenario and needing to analyze it and react to it quickly is the very definition of strategy that makes a game like Heroes of the Storm so awesome.

Finally, there is one last piece of advice you should follow: practice. You now have the knowledge of how to deal with stealth heroes, but you need practice. Simply go on and play. Eventually, you’ll be faced against a Stealth hero. Sooner or later you will die against him and that’s okay. When that happens, think about this guide. Think about your game and the situation you are in. Most importantly, though, think about what you could have done better and what you could have done to survive. If you do that, the next time you respawn you won't make the same mistake again, and you'll start to translate knowledge into gameplay, which is key to becoming a better player. You now may laugh in the face of stealth.

So go now, Hero! Fight for glory in the Nexus as you now have the knowledge of how to beat the number one player killer in the game and the invisible protoss sni-

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Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
August 04 2015 09:58 GMT
#2
Great article!
I love how this is released at the start of a f2p Nova week :D
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 17:52:42
August 04 2015 17:51 GMT
#3
Thank you, I hope people find this useful!

We wanted to make this guide because how to play against stealth is a very frequent question around here, but most people just say "look for the shimmer" when in reality there is so much more you can do! Nova and Zeratul are burst heroes that are good at ganking, and those traits will dictate their gameplay and how you should play against them.
Something I purposely left out of this guide was the mention that you can see the shimmer better in low settings, as I found that to make basically no difference, here is the same image in low and ultra so you can compare.
Ultra
http://i.imgur.com/nLwxSzs.jpg
Everything on low: (Having textures on low is what supposedly makes it easier to see)
http://i.imgur.com/fEorFq4.jpg

The shimmer is right in the middle.
I don't see any real difference. If you can see the shimmer on low you can see it on ultra, as you'd actually be paying attention to your surroundings. Either way, I don't think reducing your settings is necessary if you follow the advice of the guide.
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 17:59:57
August 04 2015 17:57 GMT
#4
I agree on the settings thing. For a while I thought I could see shimmer super easily because I played on low settings and my friends didn't. As a test I switched to ultra, and I could still see the shimmer super easily. I think it's just because I am one of the few people I play with who was a regular starcraft player, so I'm a bit more practiced at spotting it.

still, in those screenshots the shimmer is hard to see. Movement is what really makes it noticeable--- I'm not even 100% sure that what I think is the shimmer is really the shimmer in those stills.

edit-> as a bit of feedback, I find the still-frame gifs really difficult to process. I dunno what a better solution would be for embedded video clips in these articles, but they are not helping me.
Don't Panic
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 04 2015 19:26 GMT
#5
Another thing to note since I see it in HL all the time. Stealth does not counter Stealth. If they FP Zeratul that isn't a ticket to get Nova. Nova gets shit on by Zeratul anyways so I've never understood the logic.
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isparavanje
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
62 Posts
August 04 2015 19:39 GMT
#6
As someone who loves to play zeratul...
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
August 04 2015 20:32 GMT
#7
Stop telling people how to play better vs Nova, damnit!
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
August 04 2015 20:41 GMT
#8
@MotherFox Actually, I think what helps the most with spotting the shimmer is having decent FPS. It's much, much easier with a steady 60fps than with 30 or even 20fps, like a lot of ppl seem to get in this game. Something to keep in mind when a friend can't do it...
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 04 2015 20:57 GMT
#9
Is there something in-game that will reveal the FPS you are getting?
Don't Panic
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
August 04 2015 21:22 GMT
#10
Glad you liked it guys! We are thinking of better ways to display what we wanted to do instead of the gifs since they aren't working as well as intended.

You can check your FPS if you press ctrl+alt+f
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MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
August 04 2015 21:28 GMT
#11
Well, it looks like I do pull 60fps on both of my machines, so maybe that's it.
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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 23:22:30
August 04 2015 23:21 GMT
#12

nevermind, I should learn to read all posts before saying something
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METATERREN
Profile Blog Joined June 2015
71 Posts
August 05 2015 05:43 GMT
#13
It can be easy to counter what may be a solo Nova gank by hanging out in the minions. If her snipe doesn't tag your hero you'll likely be alright.
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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
August 05 2015 12:15 GMT
#14
I think the most boring truth about this article is that the popularity of the zeratul (partly jaina too) is that it enforces the burst healing support archetype. It's kinda boring playing 24/7 rehgar/uther because thats the only real burst healers unless you are a god bw who can pre-E the target.

Good article.
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 05 2015 13:48 GMT
#15
I think besides helping people play against stealth, this article also has some fine pointers for those taking their first steps as stealth assassins as the efficient/proper way to play as them is also described.

Good article once more from the Heroes team
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
August 05 2015 14:13 GMT
#16
Thanks for the write up, I swear there's nothing more annoying in QM is playing versus zeratul nova every single game.
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Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
August 06 2015 18:44 GMT
#17
I also think it's important to note that, when playing against a team with a stealth character and especially against a double stealth comp, the opposing team is looking for an early advantage.

If you deny a stealth comp early ganks and objectives by playing safe and coordinating well with your team (and by following Phantom's advice in the guide), the stealth comp will not have the advantage it needs going into the late game to really dominate the way they can if they get an early level 10 or 20.
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Khalimaroth
Profile Joined September 2010
France70 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-08 16:48:13
August 07 2015 14:29 GMT
#18
Wonderful works.
Thanks for this guide

I wish a general guide on "picks and counterpicks" from basics to expert notions, not only about stealth
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[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 21:18:38
August 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#19
On August 07 2015 23:29 Khalimaroth wrote:
Wonderful works.
Thanks for this guide

I wich a general guide on "picks and counterpicks" from basics to expert notions, not only about stealth


If people ask we will deliver. We may even deliver sooner than what you'd think.

+ Show Spoiler +
No promises though
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AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
August 08 2015 10:12 GMT
#20
One should also mentioning that playing Abathur and Murky is especially hard against Nova and/or Zeratul, as stealthed heroes make pretty good egg and body hunters. Of course you can always place you egg or body in a more backward and save location but as long as their are not behind sealed walls they are always in danger you practically cannot see coming.

I believe Abathur and Murky are pretty bad picks against stealthed heroes.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 08 2015 10:33 GMT
#21
How to play against stealth: pay attention to your surroundings, if there is a shimmer, run or target it. This article is too long.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 08 2015 13:10 GMT
#22
On August 05 2015 04:26 Tenks wrote:
Another thing to note since I see it in HL all the time. Stealth does not counter Stealth. If they FP Zeratul that isn't a ticket to get Nova. Nova gets shit on by Zeratul anyways so I've never understood the logic.


Early game Nova can do pretty well against Zera, since he will either risk dieing with a blink in, or get hit by snipe. It gets difficult on 13, because Wormhole turns Zeratul into a ranged hero. But on 16 Nova can kill him the moment he blinks in for a poke.
But its really a bad Idea anyway. Before the Zera change it was okay, because both relied on Gathering Power. Since Nova is the only one that needs it, its really hard to play with her against heroes that so easily can kill her. You do have Envenom though on Nova, which gains some value against cloaked heroes.
But in 9 out of 10 games, Zeratuls are usually not in fear of the Nova and take Void Prison instead of Shadow Assault aka "Nova stack reset after she used her snipe". And I am still at that level, where Voidprisons are a diceroll which team dies.

The need for Gathering Power just makes her bad at super high level, just as it made Zeratul bad, but he still had Void Prison going for him. Funnily at high level, she is super strong, because everyone just focusses on you.
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
August 17 2015 19:10 GMT
#23
Damn thought this was about HS first ;( Seeing some ppl play a lot of stealth minions, well well sunwell..
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
August 17 2015 19:15 GMT
#24
On August 18 2015 04:10 MidnightZL wrote:
Damn thought this was about HS first ;( Seeing some ppl play a lot of stealth minions, well well sunwell..


That's easy. Go hunter and play 2 flares! :D
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karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 21 2017 15:18 GMT
#25
With 2.0 and lots of new players coming in, might be a good time to update this. Most of it looks valid except the drafting against part.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
April 21 2017 16:27 GMT
#26
On April 22 2017 00:18 karazax wrote:
With 2.0 and lots of new players coming in, might be a good time to update this. Most of it looks valid except the drafting against part.

Yeah, lots of outdated info at this point. I'd add that I've found Chromie to be really good actually. Has clairvoyance at level 1 with 25 sec cooldown (which is underrated imo. great info gathering at high elo and great for babysitting teammates at lower elo). And then bronze talons at lvl 3 (the one that empowers your auto) is really good for bursting down the assassin when they come in. Also time trap vs zeratul is great. Learning to play Chromie this way would actually develop a lot of great skills for a newer player (map awareness, not panicking, positioning, skill shots, getting in autos)
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Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 21 2017 18:49 GMT
#27
We are actually working on an update right now. Hopefully we'll be able to ship it by the end of the month!
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Profile Joined July 2015
United States580 Posts
April 21 2017 21:01 GMT
#28
Stealth heroes pretty much either carry or get stomped hard depending on what composition they are against.

If I'm playing Zeratul or Valeera against a team with a Jaina/KT/Rhegar then yea they are going to have a pretty bad time, especially if it's in QM

In draft stealth heroes are a bit more manageable because you can always run Tassadar or Chromie (or LT..) against them and let me tell you, nothings more frustrating playing Zeratul against Tass or Chromie and getting revealed constantly, it really takes your threat level down a notch.
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April 22 2017 01:05 GMT
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I've always thought it was harder to see shimmers in hots than in sc2. Is this just my eyes playing tricks on me?
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