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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
In those 4 seconds of Hunter's Fury you can burst down almost anyone if not interrupted. Still, if I play Tyrande and I turn out as the only support in a QM, I wonder if I should go for the healing instead, including the heal talent on 13, just so that my team has something a bit more of a healer. If they already got 3 assassins or specialists, do they really need my AA build on top of that? | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On April 25 2015 06:13 RouaF wrote: And when I thought it couldn't get any worse.... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5IMQHDT.png) I should've screenshoted the end game stats, they all died 10+ times and well the talents speak for themselves I guess Oh also they all were spamming russian in teamchat The game was a 29 minutes struggle of me dealing alone half the damage of my team while not dying and saving our base countless times I'm done playing this game until blizzard does something about this (obviously not about russians but about that F******G matchmaking). That's pretty awful, I think worse than any match I've ever been, although I don't check very many so who knows. Only thing to do is cancel search when it hits 6 mins. But yeah, I'm in the same boat as you. Almost completely stopped playing now because of matchmaking (both winning too easily and losing too hard -- just not enough competitive games to keep me interested). Damn. edit: that baneling build zagara rofl | ||
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
Our 80% golem would have won us the match by itself had we defended the push. So it took me 1 hour to calm down after that. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
No really, nerf him, he can 100-0 an assasin now with his combo Also, fuck the win 3 games quest, i always go on a losing streak whenever I got it. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
No good day to do QM for me. Everyone had the play a warrior quest. Which is okay ... but if 2 supports and 2/3warriors decide they should go full tank and healer. And around level 13 the realization that we lack damage haha. | ||
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Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
On May 02 2015 17:56 Solmyr wrote: Can you already go afk if you que to a Ilidan/Nova/Zeratul opposition as Jaina ? I don't think it's the end of the world, you just have to play mega careful and get both sprint/ice block and bolt. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
'nuff said | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Also, every single game I've played with an Abathur on my team, I feel like we're just down a player and playing 4v5. I don't know if Abathur's quality is just really subtle, if the Abathur players I've been with have just been bad, or if the team has just been bad in general, but I have yet to win a game with an Abathur ally. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 04 2015 02:41 Ej_ wrote: lost vs Abathur on Dragon Shire 'nuff said I wouldn't necessarily feel too bad about that. Abathur can be really tough on that map with his global presence. | ||
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
On May 04 2015 08:36 xDaunt wrote: I wouldn't necessarily feel too bad about that. Abathur can be really tough on that map with his global presence. I dissagree. Abathur is a great hero, but has one clear disadvantage: he has no map presence, and I mean literal map presence, he is simply not there, he doesn't have a health bar until lvl+ plus and thats maybe and not all the time. On dragon shire you need to have someone to control the shrines, you need someone to contest them, and you need someone to stop the enemy from getting the dragon on the mid lane. Is not that it is impossible, but it is very hard. He is also very bad at maps like cursed hollow where constant team fights happen at lvl 10- where if the enemy decides to all go to the tribute, you are in a 4.5 vs 5 situation that on most cases will go wrong. Abathur is a great hero though, he is very powerful, so to that guy who can’t win with an abathur on his team, you will. But Dragon Shire in particular is undoubtedly one of his worse maps. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 04 2015 09:27 [Phantom] wrote: I dissagree. Abathur is a great hero, but has one clear disadvantage: he has no map presence, and I mean literal map presence, he is simply not there, he doesn't have a health bar until lvl+ plus and thats maybe and not all the time. On dragon shire you need to have someone to control the shrines, you need someone to contest them, and you need someone to stop the enemy from getting the dragon on the mid lane. Is not that it is impossible, but it is very hard. He is also very bad at maps like cursed hollow where constant team fights happen at lvl 10- where if the enemy decides to all go to the tribute, you are in a 4.5 vs 5 situation that on most cases will go wrong. Abathur is a great hero though, he is very powerful, so to that guy who can’t win with an abathur on his team, you will. But Dragon Shire in particular is undoubtedly one of his worse maps. By your definition of "map presence," Abathur is a useless hero on every map, which is just incorrect. And it is particularly incorrect on Dragonshire. Securing the dragon is all about executing proper rotations. Because of symbiote, Abathur is very good at helping a team rotate properly and create odd-man situations. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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4tre55
Germany330 Posts
On May 04 2015 18:34 FeyFey wrote: Hammer needs her HP back. Now if you have one of those split push hammers, they feed the enemy before doing anything useful. In my experience that's more likely due to bad split pushing with no map awarness than to a nerfed hp pool. And the best way to play Hammer is most often to trilane early and teamfight after imo. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On May 04 2015 09:27 [Phantom] wrote: I dissagree. Abathur is a great hero, but has one clear disadvantage: he has no map presence, and I mean literal map presence, he is simply not there, he doesn't have a health bar until lvl+ plus and thats maybe and not all the time. On dragon shire you need to have someone to control the shrines, you need someone to contest them, and you need someone to stop the enemy from getting the dragon on the mid lane. Is not that it is impossible, but it is very hard. He is also very bad at maps like cursed hollow where constant team fights happen at lvl 10- where if the enemy decides to all go to the tribute, you are in a 4.5 vs 5 situation that on most cases will go wrong. Abathur is a great hero though, he is very powerful, so to that guy who can’t win with an abathur on his team, you will. But Dragon Shire in particular is undoubtedly one of his worse maps. The thing is, with abathur on DS, you're VERY open to making plays for the shrines. You talk about his disadvantage, instead of looking at the insane advantage of suddenly turning a 1v1 into a 2v1 or similar. Granted that DS is not an optimal Abathur-map, he can still do tons of work if he has the right targets for symbiosis (like zeratul/chen/illidan). The playstyle isn't really different team-composition wise, you generally just wanna stay the hell away from full on 5v5's and rather let the small skirmishes do work for your team. | ||
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Leolio X
France26 Posts
On May 04 2015 18:34 FeyFey wrote: Hammer needs her HP back. Now if you have one of those split push hammers, they feed the enemy before doing anything useful. Watch the Grubby One-Stop guide. He says to not play HAMMER solo, and I fully agree with that. Against a bad team you can manage solo, but against a good team, even your shotgun + dash won't save your ass. Hammer's the number 1 target for any decent team, as any specialist should be (except Murky). | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On May 04 2015 20:23 Sponkz wrote: The thing is, with abathur on DS, you're VERY open to making plays for the shrines. You talk about his disadvantage, instead of looking at the insane advantage of suddenly turning a 1v1 into a 2v1 or similar. Granted that DS is not an optimal Abathur-map, he can still do tons of work if he has the right targets for symbiosis (like zeratul/chen/illidan). The playstyle isn't really different team-composition wise, you generally just wanna stay the hell away from full on 5v5's and rather let the small skirmishes do work for your team. Exactly this. Good Abathurs (ie those Abathurs that actually have good map awareness) can be devastatingly effective on Dragon Shire with good symbiote usage in the early game and locust spawning in the late game. Abathur needs adrenal glands (level 4) and needlespine (whatever the level 7 stab talent is) to really come into his own, but once he has them, I'd say that the team with Abathur often has the advantage when it comes to securing the dragon. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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