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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 14:15:50
November 03 2015 14:15 GMT
#1021
Is he *that* bad at it? Granted he has limited CC compared to say Muradin/Johanna but as long as you're careful with the Q and spec him for shields he can tank a ton of damage. Could be that players are still getting used to him, I've seen more than my fair share of suicidal Artanises thinking they can take on anything.

For solo tank I almost always take Muradin though.
The stun, sustain and possibility of Reverberation are matched by none.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 03 2015 15:54 GMT
#1022
my favourite is artanis players that end up on the wrong side of the gate and die.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 16:37:28
November 03 2015 16:35 GMT
#1023
On November 03 2015 23:15 Thezzy wrote:
Is he *that* bad at it? Granted he has limited CC compared to say Muradin/Johanna but as long as you're careful with the Q and spec him for shields he can tank a ton of damage. Could be that players are still getting used to him, I've seen more than my fair share of suicidal Artanises thinking they can take on anything.

For solo tank I almost always take Muradin though.
The stun, sustain and possibility of Reverberation are matched by none.

guy had 10 deaths and like 9 takedowns at the end

luckily enough I was matched against him and we facerolled while the guy kept feeding us as Jaina
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
November 03 2015 16:40 GMT
#1024
On November 04 2015 00:54 Larkin wrote:
my favourite is artanis players that end up on the wrong side of the gate and die.


They're the best. :D Lots of Artanis (in QM) just use teleport at any moment, even when it's not usefull. Just because ability spam is the way of the real pros. I guess in Street Fighter they just mash the controller while screaming and closing their eyes!

On the other hand I saw one who trapped our ETC in the enemy base (middle door on battlefield of eternity, so not much towers here) but we saved him easily because level 20 ETC doesn't care about 1 turret.
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 03 2015 16:55 GMT
#1025
I feel like something really needs to be done about bots. We had a very close game last night on infernal shrines up until our raynor disconnected and was replaced by a bot. At that point the enemy team just crushed us every single time, always being able to find an out of position raynor and punish him for it.

Basically when someone disconnects from a close game it turns into an auto-loss. I wish there was a system in place to punish the disconnecter and forgive the others on the team, because it's not our fault the loss occurred. Sure, maybe the person disconnecting isn't at fault--- but people shouldn't be queuing for heroleague with connection issues in the first place IMO.
Don't Panic
allstate_mayhem
Profile Joined November 2015
2 Posts
November 03 2015 17:10 GMT
#1026
Uther last night.

Wearing cool new judgement skin (I have it too I also play a fair amount of Uther) I think oh cool this guy's on the level. Good comp, thinking positive.

Uther proceeds to solo lane the whole game - we're inexplicably ahead, a little, but getting pushed back. I ask politely if he could come drop off some heals maybe.

Pretty sure guy was on global mute, checked talents, it was the hottest mess of garbage I've ever seen...I'm pretty sure it was someone's kid? Like either an out and out troll or a five year old givin' his best. idk.

MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 03 2015 17:11 GMT
#1027
it turns out that anyone can buy money skins.
Don't Panic
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
November 03 2015 19:45 GMT
#1028
On November 03 2015 04:25 dpurple wrote:
Was rank 18-20 for the first 200 games of hero league. Now 70 games later im at rank 30. I didnt get any worse. So what happened? BS game.


Rank 32 now. Its just not possible to win any more. The game must hate me....
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 19:49:26
November 03 2015 19:47 GMT
#1029
On November 04 2015 04:45 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 04:25 dpurple wrote:
Was rank 18-20 for the first 200 games of hero league. Now 70 games later im at rank 30. I didnt get any worse. So what happened? BS game.


Rank 32 now. Its just not possible to win any more. The game must hate me....


I was stuck in that rank range for a really long time until recently. I got out by playing either heavy siege or top-tier assassins every game and punishing people who over extend. (or just exploiting that no one punishes overextenders at that rank range.)

I've been chronicling my recent explosive rise in heroleague in a blog: (and by explosive, I mean I've gone from rank 34/35 to rank 11 in a matter of weeks after being at rank 34/35 for months)

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/MotherFox
Don't Panic
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-03 21:05:58
November 03 2015 21:04 GMT
#1030
So many people just don't understand the basics of objectives or teamfights and just stay in their lane all day long.
Gazlowe and Zagara just kept arriving (if at all) to the teamfights so late it didn't matter anymore, granting each curse tribute to the enemy team.

It's also funny when Gazlowe then starts whining that his total hero damage is slightly higher than Zeratul's on Cursed Hollow when the enemy team has three tanks worths of CC and we have 0 tanks forcing Zeratul to be careful.
Sure in a more balanced game Zeratul would have more but there is a major difference between sustained damage (from say Zagara) and burst damage (Zeratul or Kerrigan) that a lot of people seem to overlook.

Sometimes I don't know which is worse, QM or HL.
QM seems to have have the better players at times (stuff I've seen in HL...) but the random compositions (just had a Tyrael, Nova, Abathur, Murky, Tassadar as a team...) can ruin your day instantly, but in HL you can generally get a decent composition but then get stuck with people who just don't know how to play the chosen hero.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
November 03 2015 22:21 GMT
#1031
Not complaining but I thought it was funny.
>>>>> Quickmatch on Dragon Shire [28:45] <<<<<
Uther, Artanis, Nazeebo, Illidan, Zagara VS. Azmodan, Uther, Murky, Kael'thas (Me), Stitches
Winner: Team 1

Murky takes march and uther complains.
I know uther has divine storm as solo support so he should not complain. After the game I look at his build and its
Fist of Justice
Hammer of the Lightbringer
Burden of Guilt
Divine Storm
Holy Shock
Imposing Presence
Redemption

If you ignore redemption all of his talents combined(!) have about the same popularity in masters as march(13% vs. 11 %).
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
November 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#1032
On November 04 2015 04:47 MotherFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 04:45 dpurple wrote:
On November 03 2015 04:25 dpurple wrote:
Was rank 18-20 for the first 200 games of hero league. Now 70 games later im at rank 30. I didnt get any worse. So what happened? BS game.


Rank 32 now. Its just not possible to win any more. The game must hate me....


I was stuck in that rank range for a really long time until recently. I got out by playing either heavy siege or top-tier assassins every game and punishing people who over extend. (or just exploiting that no one punishes overextenders at that rank range.)

I've been chronicling my recent explosive rise in heroleague in a blog: (and by explosive, I mean I've gone from rank 34/35 to rank 11 in a matter of weeks after being at rank 34/35 for months)

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/MotherFox



Well I was never stuck. Started on rank 28 I think then moved up to around 19 and stayed there for a long time. Then all of a sudden I dropped like bomb. Rank 33 now. 1 win and 11 losses last 12 games. Dont know what happened. Its just really weird.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
November 04 2015 03:27 GMT
#1033
Game has not been kind to me lately - went on a fucking 11 game losing streak, dropped 4 ranks straight in HL, started getting legit draft screen ragers (apparently abathur and tyrande are bad now)

Finally turned it around and won one (34min game as Jaina on Battlefield of Eternity), and apparently Blizzard took such mercy on me that it gave me 200 Bonus Points for the win, which I thought I stopped getting looong ago
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
November 04 2015 04:42 GMT
#1034
On November 04 2015 04:45 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2015 04:25 dpurple wrote:
Was rank 18-20 for the first 200 games of hero league. Now 70 games later im at rank 30. I didnt get any worse. So what happened? BS game.


Rank 32 now. Its just not possible to win any more. The game must hate me....


I suspect that as the season advances, the people who stop playing are at the bottom of the rankings and so the rankings become more competitive. I used to be rank 6 and now I'm down to 13, and expect to keep going down.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
November 04 2015 10:39 GMT
#1035
On November 04 2015 01:55 MotherFox wrote:
I feel like something really needs to be done about bots. We had a very close game last night on infernal shrines up until our raynor disconnected and was replaced by a bot. At that point the enemy team just crushed us every single time, always being able to find an out of position raynor and punish him for it.

Basically when someone disconnects from a close game it turns into an auto-loss. I wish there was a system in place to punish the disconnecter and forgive the others on the team, because it's not our fault the loss occurred. Sure, maybe the person disconnecting isn't at fault--- but people shouldn't be queuing for heroleague with connection issues in the first place IMO.


Ping the bot and he'll follow you until you die. That makes sure that he's no longer out of position and at least sticks to the team, especially if you're the support or another backline player. I've had rank 5 players in my team where the bot performed better than the player, once the bot was assigned to follow instead of running around on the wrong side of the map clearing minion waves as Malfurion or Nova. Maybe bots should auto-follow the closest player though.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7189 Posts
November 04 2015 10:45 GMT
#1036
On November 04 2015 06:04 Thezzy wrote:

Sometimes I don't know which is worse, QM or HL.
QM seems to have have the better players at times (stuff I've seen in HL...) but the random compositions (just had a Tyrael, Nova, Abathur, Murky, Tassadar as a team...) can ruin your day instantly, but in HL you can generally get a decent composition but then get stuck with people who just don't know how to play the chosen hero.


I play a lot of QM these days too, just because the overall mood is so much better.
Ppl make jokes, laugh about ridicoulos compositions and, you won't believe it, HAVE FUN!

HL just isn't fun anymore.
Not one game out of the last 50 there wasn't a flamer/toxic person and it ALWAYS makes the experience worse for all.
Always starts in the draft and then,even if you win, if you are ahead 3 levels, ppl start raging at 1 little mistake.
And i can't bring myself to mute all from the start.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
November 04 2015 11:51 GMT
#1037
On November 04 2015 19:45 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2015 06:04 Thezzy wrote:

Sometimes I don't know which is worse, QM or HL.
QM seems to have have the better players at times (stuff I've seen in HL...) but the random compositions (just had a Tyrael, Nova, Abathur, Murky, Tassadar as a team...) can ruin your day instantly, but in HL you can generally get a decent composition but then get stuck with people who just don't know how to play the chosen hero.


I play a lot of QM these days too, just because the overall mood is so much better.
Ppl make jokes, laugh about ridicoulos compositions and, you won't believe it, HAVE FUN!

HL just isn't fun anymore.
Not one game out of the last 50 there wasn't a flamer/toxic person and it ALWAYS makes the experience worse for all.
Always starts in the draft and then,even if you win, if you are ahead 3 levels, ppl start raging at 1 little mistake.
And i can't bring myself to mute all from the start.


I seriously don't feel that way. QM is a mess, but if you take it for what it is, it's an interesting mess. You go do your own business, try your heroes, try strategies. If you go with an easy mind, you have fun even with 3 warriors versus a perfectly balanced team.

Hero League is where you play to win. You do what's best for the team, and ultimately it's the best for you. You don't try heroes, you don't play level 3 heroes, you don't try build orders... I had a lot of heated discussions in the lobby ("not nova please" as usual) but people get constructive as you climb in rank. You can persuade them, or at least they'll say "if we lose it's your fault". It's fine. If people talk in the lobby it's a GOOD sign, it means they care. You have to do your best to keep the team's mood as nice as possible when discussing. If not just mute them. Noone barely says anything interesting after the game starts anyway.
Also, if you lose it's not the end of the world. But when you win you feel so great. :-)
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7189 Posts
November 04 2015 13:53 GMT
#1038
On November 04 2015 20:51 Leolio wrote:
Hero League is where you play to win. You do what's best for the team, and ultimately it's the best for you. You don't try heroes, you don't play level 3 heroes, you don't try build orders..


Could you pls tell that to my teammates? ^_^

On November 04 2015 20:51 Leolio wrote:
I had a lot of heated discussions in the lobby ("not nova please" as usual) but people get constructive as you climb in rank. You can persuade them, or at least they'll say "if we lose it's your fault". It's fine. If people talk in the lobby it's a GOOD sign, it means they care. You have to do your best to keep the team's mood as nice as possible when discussing. If not just mute them. Noone barely says anything interesting after the game starts anyway.
Also, if you lose it's not the end of the world. But when you win you feel so great. :-)


I feel ppl get more deconstructive as you climb rank. Nobody rages more/ harder than low MMR Rank 1 and 2 ppl

I always try to be helpful, do some smiles.
I always reason for or against hero choices ( Good choice Mate! Sylv is great on Haunted / Hmm... dude you sure you wanna go Lili vs a CC heavy team comp?)
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
November 04 2015 16:32 GMT
#1039
The random Sgt.Hammer picker doing his own build and own thing entire game was not enough to prevent us from securing the win!

until he disconnected and the bot kept feeding with 50s cooldown on death
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
November 04 2015 17:34 GMT
#1040
I think I'm on a 3-4 game losing streak in HL right now. Whenever this happens I begin to question whether I know anything about the game at all
Don't Panic
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