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Yeah, wanna chime in and say the matchmaking system is dumb, nothing new here. Just lost badly playing with Leo, Anub, Diablo, Kael & Nova (who insta-died at the start - just stood there attacking valla & I think Azmo, no micro, nothing, then bitched and blamed me..) vs Aba Valla Kerri Azmo Leo. Big burst vs no dps. How can this be considered "matchmaking".
They need to adjust the wait times people experience for QM. It seems "sometimes we just want to get you in game" (direct quote from a blog Blizz posted on QM MM). Personally I would rather wait a few extra minutes and get a balanced team than have the current YOLO attitude that seems to be the prevailing factor in MM.
Blizz can't win I guess, if the queues were longer I guess you'd get a bunch of people saying dead game, fuck you blizz why is this taking so long etc etc and so on.
Only good thing about this game for me was that it ended quickly.
ps. Leo's damage comes mid to late game from team fights and swinging that huge club. Before someone says 'leo high dps tank' ;-/ This was over at 13, it wasn't remotely close.
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Raynor inactive(not disconected) from the start. Comes back at lvl14 to 11 or something with golem at our core. Rehgar picks bloodlust.
How can they make you lose points for something like this. 9 of 10 people in that game would agree that it was not a fair game.
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You know the MM system is so retarded that it wants you to have EXACTLY 50% WIN RATE NO MATTER WHAT.
I was getting an winning streak yesterday, the streak went to 11
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gleyrRh.jpg)
And then all the sudden for my next 8 games this shit happens
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XcbuUhx.jpg)
Every single game over that 8 game span my team goes full feeder mode and lv deficit becomes 8-11or12 in the 5 or so minutes. It's not like I personally played bad on those games, stupid Blizzard MM system is MAKING SURE I LOSE. So that my win rate crushs and burn down to 50% again. Look at this game
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t9IWUUE.jpg)
I basically outplayed my couter part Nova by a HUGE margin.(Hero damage 52k to 38k) And despite our team getting wiped over and over again I had 1 less death than my opposing Nova. And this is considering I am playing from 2lvs down all the time. I played the absolute best I could and still our team basically gets raped. I can't even imagine how much do I have to outplay my counter part in order to win.
So my coclusion is this : the MM wants you to have 50% win rate. Winning is punished and Losing is rewarded. You will get shit match if you win too many games and it will continue that way until your win rate drops somewhere around 50%. So if you don't want get fucked up by that, lose games intentionally to avoid shit matches you are not allowed to win by the MM system.
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Trio que on hero league with a rank 10 (me), 15 and 25.
We got put with two rank 49's that have like no games played and were both terrible.
This dose not happen when I solo que usually but how in the fuck does Blizz think we should be ranked with two brand new rank 49 hero league players with the opposing team having all sub rank 20's.
smh blizzard give us a better matchmaking/rank system
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On July 24 2015 03:06 xyzamp wrote:
Trio que on hero league with a rank 10 (me), 15 and 25.
We got put with two rank 49's that have like no games played and were both terrible.
This dose not happen when I solo que usually but how in the fuck does Blizz think we should be ranked with two brand new rank 49 hero league players with the opposing team having all sub rank 20's.
smh blizzard give us a better matchmaking/rank system
This actually happens from time to time when I soloqueue. Really annoying when you get players who don't even know what their abilities do.
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We went down early in HL on Tomb, scrapped a comeback to be 22-21. Stitches and butcher trying their hardest to throw the whole game.. One tower left on both sides, they sit in mid both on 10-15% HP, two of us saying "go heal ffs". Nope, that's too intelligent, they initiate a teamfight (slightly healed by our healer) Guess what happened?
Why, just why? I do not understand at all how you have people in hero league who need to be told that running around on <50% hp is just dumb.
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meh I fucked up on mines on Zagara, had the solo lane. Always got low when mines were close so we often were behind in Skulls (even ate a 5 vs 95). It was also a support vs support QM, with us having Tyrande vs Uther.
Zagara, Abathur, Illidan, Zera and Tyrande vs Kael, Uther, Leoric, Valla and Murky. So I felt really bad going in.
As Illidan said before the 95 vs 5 Skull Golem that barreled at us, they have alot of CC.
But our team was full of awesome. Illidan pinged for Siege Camp and said he will take and everyone in the team listened. It is so rare to have this happening in QM, that you have Sieges hitting the Golem from inside the fort. Also our Aba took mule. We had always the weaker Golem, but their Keep was down before our Fort fell.
Me on Zagara being the dive buddy for Illidan was urgs though, but had to land epic Maws so we could run over them. Never used a Blink defensive lol.
Have a winning streak so not much to rage about. Games are always really close and everyone seems good. But because I play so rarely I only play the heroes I am comfortable with.
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Closing in on 10 minute que because I have to play a leaver game... Sigh... Having to play a shitty game because my internet craps out on me is annoying enough. Having to wait for sooooooo long just to get in to what I know will be a shitfest is even worse.
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On July 23 2015 21:51 HallofPain4444 wrote:You know the MM system is so retarded that it wants you to have EXACTLY 50% WIN RATE NO MATTER WHAT. + Show Spoiler +I was getting an winning streak yesterday, the streak went to 11 And then all the sudden for my next 8 games this shit happens Every single game over that 8 game span my team goes full feeder mode and lv deficit becomes 8-11or12 in the 5 or so minutes. It's not like I personally played bad on those games, stupid Blizzard MM system is MAKING SURE I LOSE. So that my win rate crushs and burn down to 50% again. Look at this game I basically outplayed my couter part Nova by a HUGE margin.(Hero damage 52k to 38k) And despite our team getting wiped over and over again I had 1 less death than my opposing Nova. And this is considering I am playing from 2lvs down all the time. I played the absolute best I could and still our team basically gets raped. I can't even imagine how much do I have to outplay my counter part in order to win. So my coclusion is this : the MM wants you to have 50% win rate. Winning is punished and Losing is rewarded. You will get shit match if you win too many games and it will continue that way until your win rate drops somewhere around 50%. So if you don't want get fucked up by that, lose games intentionally to avoid shit matches you are not allowed to win by the MM system.
But I have 62% winrate in hero league >.< obviously it isn't doing a good job.
Anyhow, besides the top/bottom of the ladder, peoples winrate should converge to 50% eventually - that means that they are winning 50% of their games, meaning they are rated at the right spot. If it didn't, that means that matchmaking is thinking your better/worse then you are.
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There really should be a special pool for 50-41 ranks in Hero League. Blizzard, please...
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when I call someone toxic in-game, "No, I'm just a good player" doesn't actually refute what I said.
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Didn't know this existed:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Jx1Ba2D.jpg?1)
Went terribly for my team.
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Shout out to the douche I played with last night who became toxic quickly into a game (after picking tassadar as our only support). We did have a Butcher that wasn't having a great game, however he spent the last few minutes sitting in base and listing off our MMR and leagues on HOTSLOG. Talking down to players when you're 1 "league" (per HOTSLOG MMR) above them and made a poor choice in the draft is the best way to guarantee a loss.
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The rage was real last night. Every single game--- win or lose---- had players raging at me or my teammates for mistakes they thought my party was making. My favorite was a zagara raging at my uther play since I "hadn't healed her once" yet despite her being two lanes away for all four or five minutes that had elapsed in game.
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I had a hl game on haunted mines as sylvanas, and I got flamed by our anubarak for not going in 2vs5 and the having less damage than him. at the end i was the only one with 2 deaths everyone else got at least 5 on my Team
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Got matched with some awful Sylvanas who just constantly AFK'd, berated teammates, and bitched about Blizzard and matchmaking. Looked him up, found his social media, among other things, and found out he's also a terrible person in real life. Can't stand people like this.
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Zeratul's Void Prison is one of the most whining abilities from the allies. I actually don't know how to use it properly but often use it to escape from the enemy.
So, i used Void Prison on Nova casting Triple Tap on me to find a cover. I blink away in panic and finally find an allied wall that can take a damage from Triple Tap. Suddenly allied Nova stays in the line of a Triple Tap and dies miserably once the Void Prison disappears. I laugh inside of me because of stupidity of the situation. And Nova types something like "Zeratul wtf, why you casted Void Prison while i was about to kill the Nova". tt
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On July 29 2015 18:00 Jenia6109 wrote:
Zeratul's Void Prison is one of the most whining abilities from the allies. I actually don't know how to use it properly but often use it to escape from the enemy.
So, i used Void Prison on Nova casting Triple Tap on me to find a cover. I blink away in panic and finally find an allied wall that can take a damage from Triple Tap. Suddenly allied Nova stays in the line of a Triple Tap and dies miserably once the Void Prison disappears. I laugh inside of me because of stupidity of the situation. And Nova type something like "Zeratul wtf, why you casted Void Prison while i was about to kill the Nova". tt
Yeah, just takes practice you basically want to use the VP to give your team a advantage to burst 2 or 3 members of the team down.
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Void Prism is great:
1) Peel
2) Split enemy team before team fight
3) lock down isolated target so team can surround and kill it
4) lock down your core when enemy team is attacking it
5) lock down approaching team while capping objective
6) wombo combo setup. Void Prism lasts almost exactly as long as it takes tychus to spin up his odin!
all this, and more!
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