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On July 19 2015 12:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Sylvanas with 40K siege damage, lowest by far on the team. With 13 deaths. Because she wouldn't listen to the advice "You should be using haunting wave to escape."
Never tell that a Sylv. The escape is one of the hardest escapes to use in the game. If they don't use it as an escape they probably don't know how to use it right and it will only get worse if they try.
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On July 19 2015 20:25 HallofPain4444 wrote:
I just had a game, the other team had a team of 2+1+1+1, and we were all solo Q(one of them left the game after 1min).
FUCK YOU Blizzard are you fucking on crack or something? Your MM is SHIT everybody knows it, at least what u should do is make solo Q players never match up against premade teams(an option).
Let me join the rage train. Got 2 rank 40+ guys in my team. The "worst" player in enemy team was rank 20. FUCK YOU Blizzard.
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More I play, more I feel chat should just be disabled entirely for everyone, it'd lead to more pleasant games, without the jerks spamming insults at the team.
Also, why do people suck at killing creep tumors? I'm often the only person on my team clearing them out.
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On July 20 2015 08:32 zlefin wrote:
Also, why do people suck at killing creep tumors? I'm often the only person on my team clearing them out.
I used to complain about the same. Best solution is to switch to playing zagara.
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On July 20 2015 05:08 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2015 12:19 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Sylvanas with 40K siege damage, lowest by far on the team. With 13 deaths. Because she wouldn't listen to the advice "You should be using haunting wave to escape." Never tell that a Sylv. The escape is one of the hardest escapes to use in the game. If they don't use it as an escape they probably don't know how to use it right and it will only get worse if they try.
They have to eventually learn; I did. I'm sure there are ways to use it incredibly effectively, but this guy was 100% wasting it and didn't even know it was an escape. He would just sit there and get picked off all the time. I was telling him it to be helpful, not to ridicule him 
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Korea (South)227 Posts
I don't even know why anymore, but it seems no matter how well I play or try to lead my team to the correct objective, I cannot for the life of me scrounge a win on cursed hollow. I played 7 games on that map today, I lost EVERY SINGLE game.
While most of the losses was mainly because the opponent team was just better at teamfighting and snowballing objectives, the last game was cancer-inducing stuff.
I won't bore anyone with details, but lets just say this; winning team fights for the majority of the game does NOT compensate for lack of good objective decision making. We had basically trashed all the opponents inner turrets, and if we had just secured the boss minion after the team fight, we would have been able to 4 push mid against 2. However, my teammates, thinking that since we had 2 tributes it would be a smarter fucking idea to get the third one. We basically let the enemy team respawn, win the fight and in the span of 10 minutes we went from a well deserved win to a mindfuck loss.
WOW. This game, while always fun and a decent experience, can make one feel the taste of fucking cancer.
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Do people literally give up when you noticed you have an Abathur on your team (who btw has the Pajama skin), has the lowest score by a huge margin, then calls your team noobs and insults for not taking objectives when you see 5 minutes into the game he has done nothing?
The game was in a literal sense 4on5, my bot lane kept getting pushed in repeatedly by a Murky who actually knew how to Murky and a Zagara, and my team still couldn't take objectives, even when I was stuck in the bot lane defending against 2, so in a sense battling out for tributes was a 3on3 and my other teammates lost because the assfuck who played Abathur on my team was a god damn useless shit. Profile afterwards, and see he was level 1 on that hero, like good god fuck. Still whispers me afterwards that me and my team sucked. Good god I hope this guy has accumulated reports and goes away from this game
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On July 21 2015 11:42 sacrilegious wrote:
Do people literally give up when you noticed you have an Abathur on your team (who btw has the Pajama skin), has the lowest score by a huge margin, then calls your team noobs and insults for not taking objectives when you see 5 minutes into the game he has done nothing?
The game was in a literal sense 4on5, my bot lane kept getting pushed in repeatedly by a Murky who actually knew how to Murky and a Zagara, and my team still couldn't take objectives, even when I was stuck in the bot lane defending against 2, so in a sense battling out for tributes was a 3on3 and my other teammates lost because the assfuck who played Abathur on my team was a god damn useless shit. Profile afterwards, and see he was level 1 on that hero, like good god fuck. Still whispers me afterwards that me and my team sucked. Good god I hope this guy has accumulated reports and goes away from this game
Was this a QM or HL? I hope it was a QM and you didn't lose rank over this.  Very frustrating to have players unfamiliar with their hero choice on your team, I'm not sure how this could be stopped though. Perhaps in HL (or even QM) A player should be say rank X before they can use that hero? Maybe that would be overly limiting.. I have to say that in QM my friends and I are very liberal, 'QM is QM' we say, there's no points on the line, only your time, which is bad enough! Please don't misunderstand me here. In the past when I bought a new hero I'd always go to vs. AI first to learn the basics, before breaking out into the wild vs people, perhaps it isn't unreasonable to deny a player access to a hero in QM or HL before they are rank 3 or 4? Then at least you should of got the jist of that hero's playstyle and abilities.
Personally I love Abathur. For me he's the most fun to play. But as you state, every team fight is 4v5 (and that's assuming you have a team focussing on objectives). I've noticed that a lot of players get the hat, then go ham thinking they are invincible.. Yet die easily, and often at the start, and when this happens a few times with Abathur on your team and you go down say 2 levels it's really quite hard to get back to an even footing.
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^ QM. I'm willing to bet a GOOD MAJORITY of players don't even bother with tutorial, AI, or even read up a guide quickly when they play the new hero, only trial and error in QM and maybe HL, and end up ruining it when they pick bad skills and have no idea what they're doing
well I just faced an Abathur (who probably knew what he was doing) and lost,
But that game which is my qq, was a result of an afk'er tassadar for the first 5 minutes of the game. I complained after 2 mins, and literally every one of my teammates defended him. We ended up losing because of the huge exp different of it literally being 4on5, checked the stats page after and saw I was with a stack of 4. Yea... insta reported there I don't give a crap
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My result of playing this game tonight...
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3R8Ix5o.jpg)
Yesterday I also had a 10 game losing streak... only 2/10 of those games were somewhat gg.
Oh just one win and I will sleep! Well it's 1am now and after demoralizing loss after loss, I've had enough. This game is way too much of a dice roll when it comes to match up variables with the worst of them being who gets the worst allies most likely loses. Even with such an imba hero like Kael, I can't carry games and have lost tonight in every facet I can think of. Early to mid game afk'ers allies as I described, divers into enemy towers early game, feeding early game unnecessarily, feeding late game 1 by 1, focusing the enemy tank while their team heals it and let's their DPS'er kill them, allies not taking hard camps together or taking easy camps as a group of 3, running around like chickens doing god knows what... all of this stupid shit.
My god, Kael is such an imba hero, and not even hard to play (Unlike Invoker in DOTA/DOTA 2), and yet again how many level 16+ flamestrikes do I need to hit before my allies help me capitalize on it?? Fuck I'm sick of this game I'm done ranting, and maybe done after shit like this. Even dailes and 100g per day isn't worth this headache
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On July 21 2015 14:10 sacrilegious wrote:
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KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often.
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On July 21 2015 16:21 sM.Zik wrote:
KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often.
1) I've read enough on the forums and played a lot of KT this week to see there's a strong imbalance with him when he reaches level 16. The damage output (provided your enemies stupidly group up) when hit by a level 16 ignite flamestrike is insane, but ofc there obviously needs to be follow through by your allies
2) I do not have the 10 heroes, nor the currency, nor am I going to pay $ in this game to get 10 heroes
3) Even if I did pay and got my 10 heroes, like you said, problems exist in HL just as much and if not worse... again this is what I have read on the forums and on reddit. Discrepancies among mmr's in the match ups
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On July 21 2015 20:32 sacrilegious wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 16:21 sM.Zik wrote:
KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often. 1) I've read enough on the forums and played a lot of KT this week to see there's a strong imbalance with him when he reaches level 16. The damage output (provided your enemies stupidly group up) when hit by a level 16 ignite flamestrike is insane, but ofc there obviously needs to be follow through by your allies 2) I do not have the 10 heroes, nor the currency, nor am I going to pay $ in this game to get 10 heroes 3) Even if I did pay and got my 10 heroes, like you said, problems exist in HL just as much and if not worse... again this is what I have read on the forums and on reddit. Discrepancies among mmr's in the match ups
1. He is not imbalanced its just how the hero works. Before lvl 16 he is nothing special, after it he is a monster. He is squishy and has no escape until lvl 20.
3. Yes, current HL MM is bad.
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On July 21 2015 16:21 sM.Zik wrote:KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often.
Grubby (ex WC3 & SC2 pro) Has a saying, something along the lines of 'get 16 we got kael'. ie living bomb at that rank, and he turns into a madman dps wise. I do feel he's imbalanced, and I know I am not the only one.
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Blizzard is stupid like fuck. Every time I get a winning streak they match me into some shit match(that our team gets face stomped) for like 5 in a row. There's no fucking insentive even to win in this mother fucking match making system. After all the hard work I've done the MM just fucks me up the next 5 games or so.
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On July 22 2015 00:41 fruity. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2015 16:21 sM.Zik wrote:On July 21 2015 14:10 sacrilegious wrote:
rant KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often. Grubby (ex WC3 & SC2 pro) Has a saying, something along the lines of 'get 16 we got kael'. ie living bomb at that rank, and he turns into a madman dps wise. I do feel he's imbalanced, and I know I am not the only one.
And everytime Grubby says this they lose anyway  . Kael is a good Spellcaster, a bit below Jaina. But not OP, especially in QM Jaina is levels above him. Kael is also only good at poking and fighting in chokepoints, you don't poke, so your only hope is to fight in chokes.
Because you can be sure about one thing in QM, a tank won't protect you they will go into the backline.
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On July 22 2015 00:58 FeyFey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 00:41 fruity. wrote:On July 21 2015 16:21 sM.Zik wrote:On July 21 2015 14:10 sacrilegious wrote:
rant KT isn't op. Also, play HL instead of QM and most of your problems will be fixed, though unbalanced teams in terms of player skills still happen fairly often. Grubby (ex WC3 & SC2 pro) Has a saying, something along the lines of 'get 16 we got kael'. ie living bomb at that rank, and he turns into a madman dps wise. I do feel he's imbalanced, and I know I am not the only one. And everytime Grubby says this they lose anyway . Kael is a good Spellcaster, a bit below Jaina. But not OP, especially in QM Jaina is levels above him. Kael is also only good at poking and fighting in chokepoints, you don't poke, so your only hope is to fight in chokes. Because you can be sure about one thing in QM, a tank won't protect you they will go into the backline.
Yeah, you aint exaggerating there or anything... Point is, why he says that?
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Caldeum1977 Posts
Jaina, assuming the target is not Chilled for the first wave, does 365 + 547 = 912 damage for a single blizzard at lvl 20.
With Chill already applied, it's 1095 damage. Considering Frostbitten at level 7, it's 1204 damage.
Kael'thas's Flamestrike does 474 with no verdant, 711 with verdant at lvl 20.
Kael'thas applies living bomb for 420 dot + 367 explosion damage (with fission bomb).
Total damage at 20 - Kael - 1498 Jaina - 1204
Blizzard is a 15 second cooldown and Flamestrike is 7.
The problem is Ignite.
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LOL so does anyone know anything about DJFezz? He claims to be a pro gamer but his RAGE is more elite than his gaming. If anyone can tell me how to upload chat records from heroes of the storm, I can post up his rage article he sent me.
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On July 21 2015 14:10 sacrilegious wrote:
My result of playing this game tonight...
Yesterday I also had a 10 game losing streak... only 2/10 of those games were somewhat gg.
Oh just one win and I will sleep! Well it's 1am now and after demoralizing loss after loss, I've had enough. This game is way too much of a dice roll when it comes to match up variables with the worst of them being who gets the worst allies most likely loses. Even with such an imba hero like Kael, I can't carry games and have lost tonight in every facet I can think of. Early to mid game afk'ers allies as I described, divers into enemy towers early game, feeding early game unnecessarily, feeding late game 1 by 1, focusing the enemy tank while their team heals it and let's their DPS'er kill them, allies not taking hard camps together or taking easy camps as a group of 3, running around like chickens doing god knows what... all of this stupid shit.
My god, Kael is such an imba hero, and not even hard to play (Unlike Invoker in DOTA/DOTA 2), and yet again how many level 16+ flamestrikes do I need to hit before my allies help me capitalize on it?? Fuck I'm sick of this game I'm done ranting, and maybe done after shit like this. Even dailes and 100g per day isn't worth this headache
This is exactly what's happening to me. After I get a 11 game win streak stupid Blizzard MM is giving me epic noob team for like 15 games straight. I've managed to win 3 of that somehow by luck but every single game is like a lv13-18 start.
Their match making idea of balacing 2 teams with equal hero levels is stupid as FUCK. I have one hero that is lv14 and the rest very low lv. Does that make me better than someone with 10 heroes lv10+? HELL FUCK NO. I am just as fucking vulnerable as a noob at lv5. Higher hero level does not mean any fucking higher skill level. Just because I'm sitting at hero lv14 that doesn't mean I deserve 4 noobs on my team against a better opponent.
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