EPTQQ/Rage Thread. - Page 26
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On July 15 2015 02:14 Tenks wrote: My MM woes are exclusive to HL. I don't really care about winning or losing or incompetence in QM. Same. I'm talking about hero league. I'm getting routinely matched with people who are like 500+ (and as much as a 1000) lower MMR than me. I very rarely have games where everyone is at my level (or better). If I duo queue (or triple queue), I'm more likely to be in higher level games, but as a solo queuer, I'm just perpetually screwed. | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On July 14 2015 16:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: First of all, please google the fallacy "counting the hits and ignoring the misses". And second, wow are you being aggressive when I ask a simple question. But fine, since you're being aggressive towards everyone lol. And I can tell you've only been playing for a week, but the misguided rage + condescension just makes you look silly, especially when you're mistaken. You apparently don't like to look up answers to your own questions, but here's something that was posted in the TL Heroes threads a while ago: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/18543837/conversations-around-the-community-matchmaking-4-3-2015 I'm sure the percentages have changed a bit over the past few months, but your idea of "at least 50%" for solo players queuing against teams is not even remotely close to the reality of about 7-8% (100-92.49) as of ~3 months ago. Unless you've played only like 10 games so far (which could very well be the case since you just started), but the law of large numbers will fix that as you play more and more. Or maybe Blizzard hates you. But in reality, Blizzard has been making a concerned effort to minimize mismatches in terms of solo vs. team queuers. At least post some evidence for your claims of being an unfortunate outlier. I encourage you to actually go through your entire match history once you've played a larger number of games and actually tally up the hits and misses. But seeing as how you're just starting the game, I think the occasional mismatch in solo vs. team queues shouldn't be a top priority to focus on anyway. Well if you took my reply as being aggressive towards you, I'm sorry that is your issue. Anyway while I also appreciate the time you took explain, and post the link and the images, the point of the matter is that I personally do not take kindly to having games being influenced by stacks, which I clearly stated at the end. Maybe I should have not thrown out the statistic of 50%, but I've seen enough games in the score screen to see that I have been put against (AND INTO) a stack of 2 plus maybe another 2... which you seem to assume I was complaining strictly of being matched up against stacks. The reasons should be obvious of the frustrations of solo queue players being put with and against stacks, and frankly it's one variable that annoys the shit out of me since I saw it in SC2 team games, and early on in DOTA 2. It's also funny I tried going through the match history, and I cannot see the score screen of games again without watching the replays, which is entirely time consuming to fast forward even at max speed. Again believe me if you want, but my argument above about hating stacks and solo queue players being mixed up together in any team game still stands | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
On July 14 2015 22:28 xDaunt wrote: Apparently Blizzard thinks that this is cause to issue a warning: For context, this was me yelling at a Tassadar who refused to soak lanes and wanted to be a roamer/ganker. I can't make this stuff up. It's actually quite sad, I've read up on the Blizz forums, and holy crap are people in this game so sensitive now? It's like the exact same thing in Hearthstone, that I'm pretty sure the devs don't even allow chat in game or chat channels to exist because of the sensitivity of the playerbase. It's one thing to make violent raging and serious threats in game, but to censor profanity in this type of context, is weak. I hate how so-called "mature players" in this game think they know what "toxicity" in this game is, and refer that term strictly to ragers in LoL and DOTA 2, while thinking they are the better players in this game. I watch a lot of DOTA 2, and a lot of the big streaming pros and personalities say "FUCK" and use it in offensive ways, should Valve warn and ban them too? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44564 Posts
On July 15 2015 11:38 sacrilegious wrote: It's actually quite sad, I've read up on the Blizz forums, and holy crap are people in this game so sensitive now? It's like the exact same thing in Hearthstone, that I'm pretty sure the devs don't even allow chat in game or chat channels to exist because of the sensitivity of the playerbase. It's one thing to make violent raging and serious threats in game, but to censor profanity in this type of context, is weak. I hate how so-called "mature players" in this game think they know what "toxicity" in this game is, and refer that term strictly to ragers in LoL and DOTA 2, while thinking they are the better players in this game. I watch a lot of DOTA 2, and a lot of the big streaming pros and personalities say "FUCK" and use it in offensive ways, should Valve warn and ban them too? Yeah I agree that it's ridiculous. I've seen countless battle.net threads entitled things like "Is this bannable/ reportable?" and the OP is like "A kid told me I'm an asshole." Facepalm. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
I lost coop on the map eternal conflict. The map where a boss is an objective so you just pick off the bots there. I did that over and over, but still we lost. We had a short exp comeback when a Tychus went afk and became a bot. But the feeding contiued when he was back. | ||
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
On July 15 2015 11:38 sacrilegious wrote: It's actually quite sad, I've read up on the Blizz forums, and holy crap are people in this game so sensitive now? It's like the exact same thing in Hearthstone, that I'm pretty sure the devs don't even allow chat in game or chat channels to exist because of the sensitivity of the playerbase. It's one thing to make violent raging and serious threats in game, but to censor profanity in this type of context, is weak. It's almost like people don't like being cursed at. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
I was Sylvanas, my friend Kael'Thas. Our team was Jaina, Zeratul and Muradin. Theirs was Kerrigan, Tychus, Malfurion, Diablo and Nova. The map was cursed hollow. The feeding started pretty early, from both sides, but we got behind. We were not in a good position to get the first two tributes, which led Jaina to call us a "team of noobs" in French. At around level 8, we managed to dominate them in a team fight, which brought us equal to them and allowed us to get our boss. Jaina said "gg". Nothing else was said from our teammates after this point. Zeratul, Muradin and Jaina, but particularly Zeratul, did not work with us for the rest of the game. Despite tireless pings and me typing - not raging (although my tone did grow less polite) - we were ignored. Zeratul was constantly soloing and dying. Jaina was just constantly dying. Muradin would go for their boss alone when they were all alive. Their team wasn't great, by any means - which explains why it was as close as it was. Nova in particular was awful, and their comp was bad, although their heal over our no heal helps a lot. The game turned into a weird base trade where Zeratul and Jaina had managed to push all the way to Core. Their entire team came at ours so we had to play defense. It ended up being my bad call, as I hammered defend pings on our Core. Jaina came back. Zeratul did not. We lost with their Core at 15% - a deserved lost, but still sore, as if Jaina had stayed we would have won the trade. Kael and I had done the same damage as our entire team put together and doubled. Jaina had died 15 times, I think. We had no heal throughout, no burst with Zeratul not fighting with us once, and no tanking with Muradin rarely fighting with us, while they moved as a group the entire time - and we still almost beat them. Probably the most disheartening game I've played in this game so far. -- It gets better, though. Blackheart's Bay. We have a Sonya on our team - and this Sonya we all reported. She pushed top alone the entire game, dying regularly and achieving little more than a fort kill. This meant we could not ever pay our coins and so lost by the cannons. We ask Sonya, with pings and with text, to fight with us so we're not constantly a man down in teamfights. "no" When the game gets worse and worse owing to our lack of Sonya (not that she is that good a hero, but still, better than nothing) we all get increasingly annoyed. He calls us babies, tells us to cry more, says "idc about winning" etc etc. I've never seen a player in a Moba game intentionally not trying to win in such a manner before. Remarkable stuff. Things I would like in next patch: -Map veto system -Voice chat -All chat -Diversifying between healer class and support class - so Tyrande and Tassadar don't count as healers and allow for matches against Malfurion, LiLi, Rehgar etc -At least an option to search for equal teams. We had a game where I was Muradin, my friend was Rehgar, and we had a LiLi, Nova and Stitches. In other words, absolutely zero damage, and so we got wrecked. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
The 'imbalances' in QM are what make you learn more about your hero and the game. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44564 Posts
On July 16 2015 06:37 Garbels wrote: Its just quickmatch. Play for fun and to improve. The 'imbalances' in QM are what make you learn more about your hero and the game. Yeah but it's hard to recognize true imbalance when 99% of the mistakes are the players' faults, rather than the inherent shortcomings of a particular hero. That's why competitive games are always balanced around the highest level of gameplay, to minimize confounding variables of things like "Are you sure that's imbalanced? Maybe you just suck." | ||
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
 That's my QQ for today : ppl misusing QQ-threads for debates keeping me from reading those juicy salty stories. :o) | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
For some reason this really grinds my gears. I don't know why, it's really silly really. No word of a lie I was watching a cast the other week, and it was a case of 24/7 THE this hero, THE that hero, and I just flipped over to another stream. It really bugs me. Fucking stop doing it please! Why does it bug me so, I'm not a grammar nazi or similar. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On July 16 2015 06:37 Garbels wrote: Its just quickmatch. Play for fun and to improve. The 'imbalances' in QM are what make you learn more about your hero and the game. Dammit, this is a QQ thread. I know it's just QM, but the shit I was mad about pissed me off and I wanted to vent about it. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44564 Posts
On July 16 2015 20:31 fruity. wrote: Why do casters refer to heroes as THE Johanna, or THE Nova etc? For some reason this really grinds my gears. I don't know why, it's really silly really. No word of a lie I was watching a cast the other week, and it was a case of 24/7 THE this hero, THE that hero, and I just flipped over to another stream. It really bugs me. Fucking stop doing it please! Why does it bug me so, I'm not a grammar nazi or similar. It's probably short for "the Nova player", etc. Just a different style of casting? | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On July 16 2015 21:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It's probably short for "the Nova player", etc. Just a different style of casting? I'll try and say this in my mind when I hear it, see if it helps alleviate the pressure build up in my brain! What's the name of the other caster (TL v Roccat) Not TOD, the other dude, man, guilty as charged. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44564 Posts
On July 16 2015 21:09 fruity. wrote: I'll try and say this in my mind when I hear it, see if it helps alleviate the pressure build up in my brain! What's the name of the other caster (TL v Roccat) Not TOD, the other dude, man, guilty as charged. Kaelaris? On DH? | ||
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fruity.
England1711 Posts
On July 16 2015 22:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Kaelaris? On DH? Not Kael, I know his dulcet tones too well! I'll have to pay attention next time the casters pop on screen. It's not Le Tod, Lewis or Hayoka, the other guy | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44564 Posts
On July 16 2015 22:07 fruity. wrote: Not Kael, I know his dulcet tones too well! I'll have to pay attention next time the casters pop on screen. It's not Le Tod, Lewis or Hayoka, the other guy Ah okay  | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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MotherFox
United States1529 Posts
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