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Beelzebub1
1004 Posts
Bring back the root delay (I'll hate this I have Malf to 13 and the new root is so good) or make the heals cost more mana (the heals needed to be more potent but the mana reduction is flat out over kill) For Zarya do something with the goddamn shields, she's a tank who pumps out respectable DPS, can deplete turrets before the 6 minute mark and shield dangerous opponents like Thrall or Illidan. | ||
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20307801/upcoming-heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-october-12-2016-10-10-2016 | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
4 of those STARTED with an AI player who never rejoined the game. much fun wasnt had. | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
Never left bot lane. Only did mercs/waves and Orbital BFG on Keeps. Went 1-1 in kills/takedowns. Rest of the team hovered around 10-10. Sigh. If you want we can team up, Dutch power  | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
Except it was, for this Timon guy. He flames us a bit, throwing a comment about how he's used to people being so bad in draft, and says we have lost. Then he waits for the game to launch, and leaves, never comes back. I assume he went to play on his smurf. The game was very long but we still lost. Fun fact, BOT Auriel is better than a lot of real players Auriel at plat level. She never forgets to crown her allies, heals on CD and gives very good Aegis (but positions like crap). We reported him all we could, but 9 people just wasted a whole game because of this kind of attitude. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
If Blizzard does not fix A) their lax attitude towards trolls and other people screwing with games for 'fun' or because they got 'angry'. B) the matchmaker coming up with insanely imbalanced matchups where 3/4 level deficits are the norm and you have to explain people that yes, soaking lanes is better than 4 man party-bushing at your own merc camp 2 min into the game, C) there being no option to leave ranked games when the game is clearly unwinnable due to whatever circumstance, D) games can start with bots and forcing a team to play 4v5 ALL GAME with the 'fun' 20m death animation... This game is dead within 3 months. So many friends of mine just quit because it is impossible to get a fun, balanced match, and there's so many trolls on ladder currently. | ||
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
All quality games which were close and good teamwork on both sides. I'm allowed to induce rage in others rather than rage myself right? :p Also it is extremely extremely rare to have an umwinnable game and if it is unwinnable that means you are going to die within the next 5 min. Adding a leave option would be terrible. If you have a bot I sympathise but it is not that common even if you are going through an unlucky streak (haven't had one in at least 50 games), and I have won games with bots from start before. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
This is not to mention the flamers and trolls and people drafting nova over tank/heal or let Artanis/Sonya/Rexxar solo tank. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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Leolio
France633 Posts
All these games I played pretty well except on 1 where I was mediocre (low death but not playing really good). 1 bot in 2 games of course. And people picking Nazeebo or Raynor usually play at the same skill level as a bot. I agree with Toastie, I won't stay on this game for very long if they don't step up vs trolls in ranked, and if they don't reward individual skill. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On October 13 2016 01:06 Leolio wrote: I agree with Toastie, I won't stay on this game for very long if they don't step up vs trolls in ranked, and if they don't reward individual skill. A bad system just creates a toxic environment. Better players get shafted with bad players in their game, lose the game, get frustrated. The bad players do their best but aren't good enough and get called out for it. Both sets of players are now angry and had a shitty experience. It comes down to the matchmaker being way too unreliable. The huge differences in weekend, for example, should not exist. This game has been unplayable on the weekends for a good while, and now the same thing is happening during week days. It's so frustrating... | ||
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Immersion_
United Kingdom794 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Decide to just pick murky (into a comp which it fits just fine, I'd never go as far as take a retarded pick to troll on purpose). -> During game, the two dumbasses dying nonstop proceed to blame me for the loss, because it's obviously my murky picks fault that they can't a) Land a single root/spell or b) avoid a single hook. Towers of doom, story of game: 1) Enemy stitches throws a hook 2) No matter what, either malfurion or chromie walks straight into it 3) They get blown up because stupid talent picks that don't enable us to come and help them (No ice block / stasis) 4) They blame everyone else since they're being shit and hooked nonstop 5) Repeat until game is lost And now the problem is my lightningrod-build as falstad, when I get 6 kills out of team's 9. "So low dmg" No shit of course I have low damage when you fucking retards keep getting ganked nonstop and I have to fly to your lane to soak xp = You get padded hero dmg when you start fighting the most obvious bait ever, then die to the gank right after. But sure, I'm only getting "lucky last hits" when without me this team wouldn't have gotten anything done. I mean I saw some next level plays, such as "Let's keep chasing the enemy team when we used all our heroics already and enemy team has most of theirs up", SUCH FUCKING BRILLIANCE. And 30k morales healing in 20k mins to top that off, because FACECHECK MORALES EVERY SINGLE BUSH GG. Fucking unbelievable retards. Seriously, 99.8% of the people playing this game have ABSOLUTELY ZERO FUCKING CLUE what they should be doing, even if they might be mechanically decent. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
Monday, I had Personal Rank Adjustment +6. Today, I have -8. Out of my last 20 games, I lost 14. I can point out the retard in 12 of these games. Braxis Holdout, First Pick Azmodan, Taste For Blood. 120 stacks at 20 minutes. Dragon Shire. Picks Tyrande solo supp vs Butcher. Dies 12 times, not hitting a proper E the entire game. Dragon Shire, Muradin, still splitpushing at 18 minutes, flaming his team for dieing to a Kerrigan Tyrael comp. Towers of Doom, Falstad, dies 6 (!!) times trying to do a fancy FLy + Gust combo. Works 0 times. Li Ming, teaching Muradin a lesson. He decided to depush the giants hitting our keep rather than force a 20 v 19 fight at enemy fort. Teaching him a lessen ment aggressive Blinks into a 5v1 for the rest of the game. Well, that'll teach him. Not to mention the games that START with a Disconnect. Those are my last 5 losses. Please don't tell me to 'git gut', 'ur unlucky', 'you don't see it when the enemy team trolls'... It's fucking bullshit. I no longer enjoy this game. In the weekends, its horrendous. In the evenings, it's terrible. Wednesday afternoon, clownfiesta! And mornings? CYAT BLAT! What I need, is a system to permanently NOT queue with specific people. I don't care if there's some potential abuse where bad players get blocked - I still have to deal with this 'JonSnow' person who 'mains specialist' and splitpushes the entire fucking game. And dies alot, because he sucks... Or, you know, some system that takes and gives points based on performance, not binary win/loss (Seriously, if my team has 49 deaths, of which 3 are mine, and I lead in kills, siege, hero damage and exp as Thrall... maybe don't blame me for the loss and add insult to injury by taking away 9 points because my team was 'favored'.) Or just a matchmaker that puts far worse players in their own place faster. Or some actual bans for trolls, feeders and afks. Sigh. Blizzard, your game is amazing, but the ranked experience, at least for me, is beyond terrible atm. | ||
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Leolio
France633 Posts
On October 13 2016 19:54 SC2Toastie wrote: Or, you know, some system that takes and gives points based on performance, not binary win/loss (Seriously, if my team has 49 deaths, of which 3 are mine, and I lead in kills, siege, hero damage and exp as Thrall... maybe don't blame me for the loss and add insult to injury by taking away 9 points because my team was 'favored'.) Or just a matchmaker that puts far worse players in their own place faster. Or some actual bans for trolls, feeders and afks. Well, they tried a soft reset, and it made things worse. Any guy who had luck on his placement skipped a league and now just make every game terrible, and people who didn't have luck lost a full league and also make the game worse for everyone. I do agree they need to promote individual skill. This is the first multiplayer online game I played which doesn't reward individual skill at all except if you play thousands of games and then your stats will be right. If you play 15 - 20 HL games per week like I do (which is still a huge amount of gaming), your stats will never be right. Also, they need to let the community say which people really don't deserve their rank. A simple "downvote player" system, like the reports one. If you get downvoted often, your downvote doesn't have much value. If a player gets downvoted a lot, he loses way more points until he's at his level. We know perfectly fine who sucks and who doesn't by playing. Blizzard fails at it since almost 2 years. Let duo queue only have 1 vote so that it's more fair. And in 2 or 3 months, everyone is at his place. And people would behave more like that. My buddy and I don't take any fun playing the game since the Zarya nerf after the buff hotfix. I'm addicted to this game, but I really consider stopping it. Also, why does this game still has so many bugs ? It launches in "windowed fullscreen" on PC all the time, it resets skins and mounts on a daily basis and so. Today we downloaded a small patch, but none hero were fixed, and there is unforgivable lag on the ladder. I really loved the game, now it's just a huge time sink. When I win, I feel like the king of the world, but I shouldn't as it's a stomp, never a balanced game. When I lose I'm terribly angry. I'm back at playing my consoles these days, and genuinely enjoy it. Maybe we'll switch to OW but I like MOBAs / RTS more. edit: long story short, I said it many times, when 1 warrior is OP or 1 support is OP, the game sucks, because 1 team will have it and the other doesn't. I lost ALL these games vs Malf. When Tyrande was OP the game was trash, when Rehgar was OP too, now with Malf OP it's the same. You can ban 1, but when you're on Braxis Holdout, and your 1st pick doesn't want to play Zarya, Malf or Sylv, you have basically very low chances of victory. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
(Lost the most won game because some people don't fucking listen, and think "BECAUSE WE HAVE GUST WE CAN BOSS NP", when enemies have a chen going unstoppable w/ barrel. Thank you for the throw bois.) Just listen to the more experienced people, they know what they're doing and don't be a greedy fuck. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On October 14 2016 06:46 Cephiro wrote: If you ever do boss in braxis when you have a 5v4 up on your enemies, and someone in your team tells you not to, please uninstall the game and never come back. (Lost the most won game because some people don't fucking listen, and think "BECAUSE WE HAVE GUST WE CAN BOSS NP", when enemies have a chen going unstoppable w/ barrel. Thank you for the throw bois.) Just listen to the more experienced people, they know what they're doing and don't be a greedy fuck. lol, the other day I was roped into going boss after we had killed 3 of them (only lvl 12 vs 13, so not long death timers). I wasn't keen, but seeing we had Falstad and knowing he hadn't used his heroic in the fight, I went along for it. So we got there, had nearly finished the boss, they got there, started disrupting etc. Boss dies, there's 2 from each side on the point, falstad's right there... he waits... he waits... he waits... he dies... it turns out he went Hinterland Blast (which he didn't use). Like, if he just said "I didn't go gust", we never would have gone for the boss. Maybe it's our fault for not checking his heroic. But jeez. | ||
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