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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 03:15:57
August 15 2016 22:14 GMT
#2241
On August 16 2016 06:54 Immersion_ wrote:
I went from masters to dia 2 in about 12 games. I don't flame cho gall Pickers but you'd think they'd at least be good at the hero. Now struggling in dia 2 due to tilt/people thinking valla jaina falstad (with hinterland of course) is a good first three picks.


Have done this three times on different accounts now (twice on smurf, once on main). I can confirm that climbing back is a truckload of fun.

E: Lastpick Nova when team has no support, vs a comp where nova ain't gonna do shit. How the fuck are these retards master
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 09:53:34
August 16 2016 09:46 GMT
#2242
I draft Nova low (I was 4rth in draft I think) vs a 1 warrior 3 squishies. Their last pick then goes for a 2nd tank (which is ok we have Lunara). I get flamed, people are discouraged, they play like it's over from start, the loss is blamed on me. Not on Auriel being front all game and feeding, and Diablo playing like a retard and feeding (the other 2 players were actually good).
I die 3 times, Auriel 6, Diablo 8 (half of them were suicides)...

I draft Nova (5th vs 3 squishies and we have Greymane), I get blamed because no wave clear. I prepick Nova on their 5th pick, wait 28 secs then a guy wakes up and says "No Nova". Well, it's too late to discuss another pick, next time pay attention to the draft.
We stomp them, like VERY hard, we have 2 death in the whole game, me and Jaina on the last objective because we got greedy after such a perfect game and it was already won.

Out of my last 6 games with Nova in HL, I won 5. That's more than 80% winrate. Lost the one where the team didn't even try (or were too bad, can't tell). I wish people would get less salty about Nova picks when they are relevant. I'm so sick of it I report every single idiot who starts getting salty about my Nova picks. I just want to enjoy the game like anyone does with their favorite heroes.

edit: this is not related to Cephiro's message up here. I'd blame any idiot who don't get healer when the team needs one. Sometimes the team doesn't though (the opponents are 4 squishies, you have sustain heroes with high DPS, you can go all in and 5th pick Greymane / Nova / Zera).
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 17 2016 00:29 GMT
#2243
Playing consistently good, fun games in master league, lots of even games, no stomps, really fun, high level experience... winning more than losing, then suddenly get 3 diamonds on our team and get roflstomped. Like, why? Why does the system want to force a loss so hard on us?
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
August 17 2016 08:03 GMT
#2244
On August 17 2016 09:29 Larkin wrote:
Playing consistently good, fun games in master league, lots of even games, no stomps, really fun, high level experience... winning more than losing, then suddenly get 3 diamonds on our team and get roflstomped. Like, why? Why does the system want to force a loss so hard on us?


You been winning too much. The 3 Diamonds been winning too much. Gotta keep the balance. Wouldnt surprise me if you get a losing streak now.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 17 2016 11:22 GMT
#2245
On August 17 2016 17:03 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 09:29 Larkin wrote:
Playing consistently good, fun games in master league, lots of even games, no stomps, really fun, high level experience... winning more than losing, then suddenly get 3 diamonds on our team and get roflstomped. Like, why? Why does the system want to force a loss so hard on us?


You been winning too much. The 3 Diamonds been winning too much. Gotta keep the balance. Wouldnt surprise me if you get a losing streak now.


Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me either. It's just silly to win maybe 6 and lose 3 even matched games, then get stomped a few times to even it out.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6993 Posts
August 17 2016 11:43 GMT
#2246
I got a 55% winrate and still get personal adjustment malus... what the hell?
Wins are +180 points and loses are -220
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 17 2016 11:55 GMT
#2247
I want to watch HGC EU but I have to sit at work for another 2 hours and then be at the gym for 2 more, because I don't want to start skipping days there. I'll probably never get around to watching the VODs of the opening matches.

QQ
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 12:00:32
August 17 2016 12:00 GMT
#2248
I got a guy who was on his 2nd HL game EVER. Not a smurf or anything. At diamond. Come on Blizzard, even if the guy is good it's obvious it's a level way above his head. He was terrible, but it's not even his fault...
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 13:54:13
August 17 2016 13:50 GMT
#2249
HL just drives me crazy. It's still an up-and-down because everything seems so random. I'm "Yoyo"ing between Dia 5 and Gold 4 constantly. Which is a huge margin, tbh...

Yesterday: I pretty much lose every single game. I try to tell my team what to do, but they don't listen. They just die left and right, initiate 1v5 and so on and so forth. And if we're ahead once, at one point some tank decides to initiate 1v5 to still throw the game last sec.

Today: I win pretty much every game. One game we had a troll who just suicided (!!!) intentionally for 10minutes or just now our tank left the game at min. 0 and we still won.

It just seems like I got absolutely no influence on how the gme turns out. The worst player in the game just decides which team is gonna be victorious; and even if I might be better than the average player, it just doesn't matter if the worst player turns out to be in my team.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 17 2016 20:10 GMT
#2250
Shouts out to the Li Ming who decided to get caught in every single mosh pit once we were 6 away from winning with 22 shots left on our core. Despite our use of Cleanse and Sanct. And the fact we had 4 'melee'.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
snailz
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia900 Posts
August 19 2016 08:05 GMT
#2251
On August 18 2016 05:10 Larkin wrote:
Shouts out to the Li Ming who decided to get caught in every single mosh pit once we were 6 away from winning with 22 shots left on our core. Despite our use of Cleanse and Sanct. And the fact we had 4 'melee'.


oh god thats painful. i recently started to appreciate the "second dmg teleport" ult and its so good vs mosh pit, i see ppl taking stage dive cuz they cant be bothered... i also feel like li ming is one of the safest dps in game, ive literally had games where my team dies ~6 times and im only at 1 or 2 (still top dmg)... my heart goes out for u <3
"I am saying that there are 300 current pros and semi-pros that have the potential to come in and dominate SC2 at any moment, with a latency of a few months from the day they switch." - intrigue
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 19 2016 09:45 GMT
#2252
On August 19 2016 17:05 snailz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 05:10 Larkin wrote:
Shouts out to the Li Ming who decided to get caught in every single mosh pit once we were 6 away from winning with 22 shots left on our core. Despite our use of Cleanse and Sanct. And the fact we had 4 'melee'.


oh god thats painful. i recently started to appreciate the "second dmg teleport" ult and its so good vs mosh pit, i see ppl taking stage dive cuz they cant be bothered... i also feel like li ming is one of the safest dps in game, ive literally had games where my team dies ~6 times and im only at 1 or 2 (still top dmg)... my heart goes out for u <3


Thanks bruh <3

Tbh I should praise the ETC for adapting and getting her; we had been destroying them up until that point.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6993 Posts
August 19 2016 12:01 GMT
#2253
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ARRRGHGHH I GODFUCKING HATE THIS FUCKING SHIT GAME SHIT FUCK ARGHHH


That felt good... now I can start a new game of this addictive piece of sh** with its dumb and dumber players
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
August 19 2016 12:20 GMT
#2254
Solo queue, 5th pick, I'm glad I'll be able to adapt to the team. But I'm too stupid to prepick early and end up with support (nothing wrong with support, but with potatoes it's the worst role). BoE, with 2 warriors so I take BW. Well... 2 warriors ? NOPE, in fact 2 idiots chasing Morales in the other team all the time, while I could outheal her (and we have Lunara).

I asked them to stop chasing. They always said I was wrong and they weren't chasing. Well... they never ever ever played defense, never peeled or protected, so I started to feed at 11 minute (they already took a 3 levels lead, 1 keep and 2 forts) and we lost at 14 minutes. This game is so easy with Lunara BW + 2 warriors... play long fights and wait until they all die / run out of mana and die.

One other little thing I need to let out.
We're in draft, our 1st pick don't prepick. We wait to decide the ban. He never prepicks although the whole team asks him. 1 full minute after picking, he says "was on phone, don't worry i can play all". HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW ? The guy was on a 4 losses streak. Got another one. Not because of the draft, but because obviously he doesn't care at all. This + Raynor flaming after draft because we didn't ban Kerrigan, but he never asked us to.
Fortunately it lasted 14 minutes. At 11 when they obviously wouldn't understand the problem I started feeding
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6993 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 12:40:39
August 19 2016 12:38 GMT
#2255
Hm... one more thing

Doesn't matter if won or lost:
+ Show Spoiler +

I HATE FUCKING FEEDERS!!! HATE HATE HATE!! ROT IN HELL! FUCKING QUITTERS!! JUST LEAVE AND LET THE BOT PLAY SINCE IT'S OBVIOUSLY BETTER THAN YOU!



Sounds like the "problem" was you tbh....


EDIT: By no means did I mean to offend, just my honest opinion
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
August 19 2016 12:44 GMT
#2256
I fully agree with Harris1st.
2 days ago I had a game were my team went for tard tactics, leading to a quick 3 levels deficit, only 1 keep left whereas we hadn't kill a single of their buildings. After 1 boss steal, 2 waves of spiders and 3 team wipes, we won. This game is designed around one single rule : NEVER. GIVE. UP.
If you guys don't have the mindset to fight until the end, don't even start. Thank you
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 15:03:01
August 19 2016 14:55 GMT
#2257
I understand your reactions guys. But it's not like that at all.

1. This wasn't real feeding, it was "I positioned normally on 3 fights (maybe 2) so that I was sure that with Stitches and Sonya not protecting us at all it would lead to me dying fast". It's more "I won't try at all since you don't", than "I straight up feed". Didn't went 1v5. Didn't dive turrets. Didn't even yolo front (well, maybe a bit if you consider there's no front). I just played so that I was sure I'd die without my warriors. It didn't fail. What's fun is that it's what Jaina did all game but not willingly.
To me it's the same as feeding and I'd report any player who does that TBH. I'm ok with being reported for it too. But it may be different in your book.

2. You have 2 warriors, but they split the team. They are chasing a full life Morales who has teammates with her, while their team murders the backline. All game long. I try to explain to them, but they say they already protect us. I'm a sustain support. Where's the hope ? It's not like I'll start killing people or will do spectacular saves.
One fight before I decide to stop trying, I was busy saving Lunara from Thrall then I hear 2 death chimes, our warriors. I pinged back 3 times but they didn't care. When Sonya asks me where I was I say "please stop chasing, I was busy saving Lunara". Then Sonya says "I saved Lunara not you". Yup. You suicided into 4 guys while Lunara with an health bar full of poison (envenom) was saved at the last second by me wasting all my CDs to use my healing mist + handling Thrall.

You have a sustain team, but the warriors try to burst. You have 3 squishies but the warriors won't protect them. You have Stitches but he won't do 1 good hook in the whole game. You have BW but the warriors split the team so that you cannot heal your team.
And the warriors are in utter denial over it. It's not like they will change. And it's the reason why I main warrior now BTW.

I fight all my games till the end. Even when we lose hard. This time, it was way beyond hope. I should show you the replay, you'd understand.

SChalfmann > I already won lots of games like that, and lost some when I was on the "winning team". It's not like that at all. Saying "never give up" is good and all. But denying that sometimes it's just impossible is as bad as thinking that a game is lost when a team has a 3 levels lead.

edit: having fun looking at the replay right now and I notice the only fight we win it's when Sonya wasn't here at all so Stitches protected us instead of yoloing, at level 3. But the rest of the game they dive together into defeat.
Leolio
Profile Joined April 2012
France633 Posts
August 19 2016 20:57 GMT
#2258
Ok, 4 QM today with Sylvanas, and these 4 games were versus Nova, and 2 of them had Zeratul or Tracer. When you think Blizzard trolls you hard, you end with an ALL RANGED ABATHUR TEAM versus a 4 ranged Butcher team.
No melee Abathur teams should never ever happen. Especially when the other team does have a melee...

I've been mean so Blizzard's punishing me. ^^
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-21 23:05:25
August 21 2016 23:05 GMT
#2259
hello, my name is clown mcdumbfuck, my healer pool is rehgar and morales. if rehagr isnt available, i play morales as an illidan support

what do you mean its bad??? OMG nobody def me, noobs
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 21 2016 23:43 GMT
#2260
Gotta love the Falstad with 290 games who started suiciding because we were getting picked by Butcher + ETC + Jaina + Greymane + Uther... like yeah, with that much CC, and I'm Rehgar, there's only so much I can do - if I get charged, I get slid, stunned, slowed and so on and can't do shit because there's no self cleanse. Does he gust to get them away when they engage like that once? No.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
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