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Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
June 23 2015 14:18 GMT
#8941
Not to mention having to judge when to use Divine Shield, which can be a pain to do in QM when everyone rushes in except the hero that should be getting said Divine Shield.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 23 2015 14:28 GMT
#8942
Luckily they made it so it is obvious you've got DS on you now. It used to be I'd DS an Illidan who was getting assaulted and he'd just leap away because it wasn't too clear he was invulnerable.
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
June 23 2015 14:28 GMT
#8943
Spend my gold for me guys. Just got my 10k gold for a new hero, was thinking to get sylvanas, whom I enjoyed playing the other week when she was on free rotation. But then I hear there are new heroes coming out soon. Butcher I believe is one.

Undecided, save and wait, or spend spend spend. I'm inclined to go with sylv, it's always nice to snap her up first in hero league.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 23 2015 14:30 GMT
#8944
Butcher will be 15k when he first gets released. Unless you're swimming in gold at least wait for him to be discounted to 10k which happens after (I think?) 2 weeks.

Sylv is also essential to have in your hero lineup. No idea if Butcher will be or not.
Wat
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
June 23 2015 14:35 GMT
#8945
On June 23 2015 23:30 Tenks wrote:
Butcher will be 15k when he first gets released. Unless you're swimming in gold at least wait for him to be discounted to 10k which happens after (I think?) 2 weeks.

Sylv is also essential to have in your hero lineup. No idea if Butcher will be or not.


Only just clipped the 10k yesterday. So 15k is a way off. And I wont waste real money on a hero. So I guess I have my answer if butcher is going to be 15k. Maybe I'll regret this if butcher turns out to be OP on release, but they seemed to of found a nice balance with johanna in this regard.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 23 2015 14:38 GMT
#8946
I guess it hasn't been 100% confirmed he will be 15k but I wouldn't imagine he'd be less
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
June 23 2015 14:40 GMT
#8947
I do seem to recall sylv being 15 on release week, not sure when this was lowered.
Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 23 2015 14:42 GMT
#8948
On June 23 2015 23:40 fruity. wrote:
I do seem to recall sylv being 15 on release week, not sure when this was lowered.


KT and Johanna were as well. I think they do this with every released hero so it doesn't completely flood the player pool (unless you're willing to fork over cash, of course )
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-23 14:43:31
June 23 2015 14:43 GMT
#8949
On June 23 2015 23:40 fruity. wrote:
I do seem to recall sylv being 15 on release week, not sure when this was lowered.


She was. Then I think lowered to 10k after a two week period. That seems to be their standard order.
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2015 14:54 GMT
#8950
On June 23 2015 23:35 fruity. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 23:30 Tenks wrote:
Butcher will be 15k when he first gets released. Unless you're swimming in gold at least wait for him to be discounted to 10k which happens after (I think?) 2 weeks.

Sylv is also essential to have in your hero lineup. No idea if Butcher will be or not.


Only just clipped the 10k yesterday. So 15k is a way off. And I wont waste real money on a hero. So I guess I have my answer if butcher is going to be 15k. Maybe I'll regret this if butcher turns out to be OP on release, but they seemed to of found a nice balance with johanna in this regard.

Johanna isn't really balanced. Kael'Thas, Sylvanna and Lost Vikings are still a lot stronger than standard heroes. Usually most of the heroes that they release are too strong and then they are nerfed eventually. I will grind 15k for Butcher(got 11k now) but not because I think that he will be OP but because he looks like a really fun hero to play. And if he doesn't end up being what I think he will be, I will probably get Kerrigan/Zagara/Azmodan. Can't wait for Butcher's talents though.

And yes, he will be 15k unless they change their policy about freshly released heroes.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
June 23 2015 15:00 GMT
#8951
As far as I know new heroes are 15k gold when they are released, usually they're released along with a bundle that gives that hero + a skin. Probably to encourage players to buy it for real or to get them to spend more gold

After two weeks the hero drops to 10k.
This has been the case so far with all of the new heroes I've seen added.

If you want to grind gold, best way is to get multiple heroes to level 5.
You'll get 500 gold for each hero you level to that.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 23 2015 15:04 GMT
#8952
On June 23 2015 23:54 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 23:35 fruity. wrote:
On June 23 2015 23:30 Tenks wrote:
Butcher will be 15k when he first gets released. Unless you're swimming in gold at least wait for him to be discounted to 10k which happens after (I think?) 2 weeks.

Sylv is also essential to have in your hero lineup. No idea if Butcher will be or not.


Only just clipped the 10k yesterday. So 15k is a way off. And I wont waste real money on a hero. So I guess I have my answer if butcher is going to be 15k. Maybe I'll regret this if butcher turns out to be OP on release, but they seemed to of found a nice balance with johanna in this regard.

Johanna isn't really balanced. Kael'Thas, Sylvanna and Lost Vikings are still a lot stronger than standard heroes. Usually most of the heroes that they release are too strong and then they are nerfed eventually. I will grind 15k for Butcher(got 11k now) but not because I think that he will be OP but because he looks like a really fun hero to play. And if he doesn't end up being what I think he will be, I will probably get Kerrigan/Zagara/Azmodan. Can't wait for Butcher's talents though.

And yes, he will be 15k unless they change their policy about freshly released heroes.


Johanna's fine.

She's a really good tank but she doesn't change matches in the way that KT/Sylv/TLV do. She has her weaknesses.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 23 2015 15:12 GMT
#8953
I'm actually really starting to dig on Johanna and I feel the competitive scene is also realizing her potential. Now that her build has become somewhat standardized (the most common build is far and away from most theorycrafted builds) she feels stronger. I didn't care for her when she was first released but now that Knight Takes Pawn is realized and her waveclear is amazing, her sustain is amazing, her disrupt is amazing and if you go Burning + Hammer at 13/16 her damage in an actual fight can really add up as well. Not sure if she is OP but she certainly is a top-tier warrior.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 23 2015 15:14 GMT
#8954
Johanna has so much CC in her kit that she always was going to emerge as one of the top warriors. Again, it just depends upon what a team needs out of their warrior(s). If peeling comes at a premium, she's the one.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
June 23 2015 15:15 GMT
#8955
On June 24 2015 00:00 Thezzy wrote:
As far as I know new heroes are 15k gold when they are released, usually they're released along with a bundle that gives that hero + a skin. Probably to encourage players to buy it for real or to get them to spend more gold

After two weeks the hero drops to 10k.
This has been the case so far with all of the new heroes I've seen added.

If you want to grind gold, best way is to get multiple heroes to level 5.
You'll get 500 gold for each hero you level to that.


Yeah, only heroes I have who aren't > level 5 are vikings,. abathur and johanna.

Another good way to make gold is to keep the low value quests. There's 8 dailies in total I believe, 3 are high value, like 800g, 600g. So if you keep the low value quests undone, then you're more likely to get the high value quests, and over time, will make more money.

Ex Zerg learning Terran. A bold move.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 23 2015 15:19 GMT
#8956
On June 24 2015 00:04 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2015 23:54 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On June 23 2015 23:35 fruity. wrote:
On June 23 2015 23:30 Tenks wrote:
Butcher will be 15k when he first gets released. Unless you're swimming in gold at least wait for him to be discounted to 10k which happens after (I think?) 2 weeks.

Sylv is also essential to have in your hero lineup. No idea if Butcher will be or not.


Only just clipped the 10k yesterday. So 15k is a way off. And I wont waste real money on a hero. So I guess I have my answer if butcher is going to be 15k. Maybe I'll regret this if butcher turns out to be OP on release, but they seemed to of found a nice balance with johanna in this regard.

Johanna isn't really balanced. Kael'Thas, Sylvanna and Lost Vikings are still a lot stronger than standard heroes. Usually most of the heroes that they release are too strong and then they are nerfed eventually. I will grind 15k for Butcher(got 11k now) but not because I think that he will be OP but because he looks like a really fun hero to play. And if he doesn't end up being what I think he will be, I will probably get Kerrigan/Zagara/Azmodan. Can't wait for Butcher's talents though.

And yes, he will be 15k unless they change their policy about freshly released heroes.


Johanna's fine.

She's a really good tank but she doesn't change matches in the way that KT/Sylv/TLV do. She has her weaknesses.

If your strengths overcome your weaknesses then having a weakness doesn't mean much. She is fine in a sense that she isn't doing anything too crazy like Vikings and Sylvannas do but she is still cc-heavy Warrior that can tank a lot and has enormous AoE blind that is almost too good(and they are nerfing that for a reason in the next patch IIRC). Comparing her to other Warriors, I don't think that there are too much of them that can do her job equally good, let alone surpass her at that.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
June 23 2015 15:20 GMT
#8957
On June 24 2015 00:14 xDaunt wrote:
Johanna has so much CC in her kit that she always was going to emerge as one of the top warriors. Again, it just depends upon what a team needs out of their warrior(s). If peeling comes at a premium, she's the one.


She is also a complete middle finger to any channeled ult. Which not to say they're popular at all in the meta but if RS Nazeebo was still popular you just go W talent at 7 and sprint towards Naz to disrupt. It seems awkward since they said Stitches' mini-stun in slam was unacceptable for such a low cooldown but you can get battle momentum and your W is up just as much as Slam.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 23 2015 15:30 GMT
#8958
I would rate Johanna the most imbalanced since a long time (if you ignore the Kael bug xD ). She denies any form of engage and because of her shield and unstoppable she can create a big gap between teams so that you don't see from were the rest of the team will poke, while Johanna can keep a nice vision on your team.

While the others are strong on their own. Johanna is way to strong with a poke composition. She will be the only target, one that can't be stunned if played well and blocks any form of auto attack damage (which is often needed against tanks).

But well they are addressing this with the Blind mechanic change.
Thezzy
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2117 Posts
June 23 2015 15:47 GMT
#8959
The only thing I've seen with Johanna so far is that she just doesn't die, especially once she hits level 20.
Rehgar especially can heal her while she's shielded, making it much easier to land Ancestral.
Playing Terran is like flying down a MULE drop in a marine suit, firing a Gauss Rifle
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
June 23 2015 15:52 GMT
#8960
Johanna is wayyy too strong lol. So much cc, unkillable, unstoppable, her + KT is basically a free win with the aoe regroup +flamestrike combo.
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