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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 16:52:45
June 06 2015 16:50 GMT
#8601
Ok, so global exp and map-.specific objectives are innovative, i can live with that. It still doesn't make the game an 8 like Phantom suggested. The only thing that really makes HoTS going is the map-cycle and that's probably the reason IGNSalty went for 6.5 and not 5.0. I like the game, but it has the same stagnating feeling as dota/lol because of the fixed roles. And it certainly doesn't help when Specialist and Assassin becomes more and more of the same thing.

And i wasn't trying to be a giant prick, but the guy clearly has some arguments going for himself while you guys seem to be more subjective on your opinion, because you enjoy playing the game and he doesn't.
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4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
June 06 2015 19:49 GMT
#8602
Or maybe a lot of people here can have a more objective opinion about certain qualities of the game because they actually tried it for a bit and don't make judgments based of false "facts"?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
June 06 2015 19:54 GMT
#8603
On June 07 2015 00:34 Ovid wrote:
Game is down? No unique game sites message.


EU I think but America is up.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
June 06 2015 19:55 GMT
#8604
Even HoN had map specific objectives. People just didn't bother playing the other maps.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 20:03:35
June 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#8605
On June 07 2015 01:38 Heyoka wrote:
He just gave you two things that are clearly different than the supporting cast of games there's no way you can say that's not innovation at least in some sense, stop being dumb

this is the point where someone has to dig out a dictionary to show what "innovation" entails


That's like saying call of duty is innovative because every new iteration has 2-3 new things in it that are clearly different
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 06 2015 21:19 GMT
#8606
Are you guys watching the youtube livestream? Butcher looks like a meta changer with his combo potential. And the new map looks really awesome. Plus more Diablo content is a very welcome announcement.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 06 2015 21:46 GMT
#8607
On June 07 2015 05:03 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 01:38 Heyoka wrote:
He just gave you two things that are clearly different than the supporting cast of games there's no way you can say that's not innovation at least in some sense, stop being dumb

this is the point where someone has to dig out a dictionary to show what "innovation" entails


That's like saying call of duty is innovative because every new iteration has 2-3 new things in it that are clearly different


No its clearly not, this is an insane semantic argument.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 21:55:29
June 06 2015 21:54 GMT
#8608
Those things more or less constitute a new take on the genre akin to say a game like Advanced Warfare for CoD with its movement mechanics, are there innovative elements? certainly. Is the game innovative as a whole? probably not.

Being innovative or not has no real bearing on how good the game is though unless the innovation is outstanding akin to something like Assassin's Creed I
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#8609
On June 07 2015 06:54 Kupon3ss wrote:
Those things more or less constitute a new take on the genre akin to say a game like Advanced Warfare for CoD with its movement mechanics, are there innovative elements? certainly. Is the game innovative as a whole? probably not.

Being innovative or not has no real bearing on how good the game is though unless the innovation is outstanding akin to something like Assassin's Creed I


HotS's design completely changes how the game is played compared to other MOBA's.

Comparing that to the few changes each new edition of CoD makes is being purposefully dense.

A lot of the hate for HotS (not including legitimate gripes like gated talents and the slow grind for gold) comes from DotA/LoL (but mostly DotA) diehards that bitch about the things that make HotS different, and yet this game would be widely panned if it tried to be a simple copy of DotA/LoL.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 06 2015 22:09 GMT
#8610
Advanced warfare's movement design actually does completely change how the game is played compared to other CoDs, being ignorant of those changes to the game and genre is actually being purposefully dense.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
June 07 2015 03:46 GMT
#8611
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
June 07 2015 03:58 GMT
#8612
LOL I am going to love that series :D

I love Carbot
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
June 07 2015 04:08 GMT
#8613
sylvanas is actually disgusting. you can roll your face on the keyboard to rank 1 with her it's retarded
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 07 2015 07:28 GMT
#8614
On June 07 2015 12:46 Valiver wrote:
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
youtube.com/watch?v=mtReG9Z-BWI

Ahaha I love the inspire. Carbot has a lot to work with in HotS with all the strange lore breaking crazyness

I'm starting to really dislike the long grind for heroes. It's pretty frustrating to not be able to pick a kaelthas or sylvanas in hero league. Also when I kept losing to certain heroes in Dota I started playing them to understand their weaknesses. This can't be done in heroes and it's quite frustrating. The 'try' mode is woefully insufficient for this.
Neosteel Enthusiast
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
June 07 2015 07:31 GMT
#8615
On June 07 2015 16:28 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 12:46 Valiver wrote:
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
youtube.com/watch?v=mtReG9Z-BWI

Ahaha I love the inspire. Carbot has a lot to work with in HotS with all the strange lore breaking crazyness

I'm starting to really dislike the long grind for heroes. It's pretty frustrating to not be able to pick a kaelthas or sylvanas in hero league. Also when I kept losing to certain heroes in Dota I started playing them to understand their weaknesses. This can't be done in heroes and it's quite frustrating. The 'try' mode is woefully insufficient for this.


you can make an alt account. 10k of gold the first day, and another 10k in the next week.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 07 2015 08:01 GMT
#8616
On June 07 2015 16:31 xuanzue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 16:28 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On June 07 2015 12:46 Valiver wrote:
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
youtube.com/watch?v=mtReG9Z-BWI

Ahaha I love the inspire. Carbot has a lot to work with in HotS with all the strange lore breaking crazyness

I'm starting to really dislike the long grind for heroes. It's pretty frustrating to not be able to pick a kaelthas or sylvanas in hero league. Also when I kept losing to certain heroes in Dota I started playing them to understand their weaknesses. This can't be done in heroes and it's quite frustrating. The 'try' mode is woefully insufficient for this.


you can make an alt account. 10k of gold the first day, and another 10k in the next week.

hmm that's a pretty good idea
Neosteel Enthusiast
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 07 2015 09:16 GMT
#8617
I never saw the point of alting until you mentioned how fast the initial gold is. Although, maybe I'll try cross server play first since if the ping is tolerable I don't have to go through the hassle of logging in and out.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
June 07 2015 10:15 GMT
#8618
On June 07 2015 17:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 16:31 xuanzue wrote:
On June 07 2015 16:28 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On June 07 2015 12:46 Valiver wrote:
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
youtube.com/watch?v=mtReG9Z-BWI

Ahaha I love the inspire. Carbot has a lot to work with in HotS with all the strange lore breaking crazyness

I'm starting to really dislike the long grind for heroes. It's pretty frustrating to not be able to pick a kaelthas or sylvanas in hero league. Also when I kept losing to certain heroes in Dota I started playing them to understand their weaknesses. This can't be done in heroes and it's quite frustrating. The 'try' mode is woefully insufficient for this.


you can make an alt account. 10k of gold the first day, and another 10k in the next week.

hmm that's a pretty good idea


not to forget the stimpack on 10 will allow you to farm 2 free rotations heroes for their level 5 Gold. Unless you grab it on a tuesday that is x3 .

I can't wait for throwpit scenes in carbot videos.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-07 15:07:15
June 07 2015 14:46 GMT
#8619
On June 07 2015 19:15 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2015 17:01 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On June 07 2015 16:31 xuanzue wrote:
On June 07 2015 16:28 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On June 07 2015 12:46 Valiver wrote:
Carbot is going to be releasing a HotS episode every month and here's the first one:
youtube.com/watch?v=mtReG9Z-BWI

Ahaha I love the inspire. Carbot has a lot to work with in HotS with all the strange lore breaking crazyness

I'm starting to really dislike the long grind for heroes. It's pretty frustrating to not be able to pick a kaelthas or sylvanas in hero league. Also when I kept losing to certain heroes in Dota I started playing them to understand their weaknesses. This can't be done in heroes and it's quite frustrating. The 'try' mode is woefully insufficient for this.


you can make an alt account. 10k of gold the first day, and another 10k in the next week.

hmm that's a pretty good idea


not to forget the stimpack on 10 will allow you to farm 2 free rotations heroes for their level 5 Gold. Unless you grab it on a tuesday that is x3 .


That first quick match at level 1 is quite the experience though lol. Diablo walking into tower range and standing there untill death. Russian Falstad went into melee range as much as possible and without ever backing up. ETC was just on vacation most of the time, wondering about without a care in the world. Their illidan never used any skills to escape . It's madness

[image loading]

Second game I could gather all 10 coins from the chests by myself without any resistance and pay afterwords. I feel like an evil smurf now.
Neosteel Enthusiast
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 07 2015 15:20 GMT
#8620
Enjoying the gameplay but I hate how expensive all the heroes are... it's even worse than league once you get past the initial level up gold =_=
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