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Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
January 24 2015 20:01 GMT
#5681
I feel like my skill cap has hit already
and playing to see if how many less trolls/bads I get to win is just depressing
quitting until it improves
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 24 2015 20:54 GMT
#5682
How do you expect it to improve?

You reached your skill cap already? How long you've been playing because i don't think even pros have reached it.

Want it to improve? Get a team, cordinate with them, get better at the game as a team. You can't just "quit until it improves" because nothing will happen.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 24 2015 22:07 GMT
#5683
On January 25 2015 02:56 klipik12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 02:52 Tufas wrote:
I wanted to know how good this game is but I cannot find any streams of tournaments etc. Is there nothing or am I blind ?


There's a tournament starting in 4 minutes. http://www.Twitch.tv/solidjakegg

Really impressive showing by Barrel Boys. I like their strategies.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
January 24 2015 23:57 GMT
#5684
On January 25 2015 03:12 Tufas wrote:
@ahswtini: As long as there is decent commentary, I will also take vods !

@klipik12: Thank you, I am really looking forward to this game, I thought after all those heroesOTS articles I never read I might have to watch one at least.


Here are some Youtube videos that have vods too:
https://www.youtube.com/user/KhaldorTV
https://www.youtube.com/user/SolidJakeGG
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
January 25 2015 02:00 GMT
#5685
On January 25 2015 02:39 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2015 01:40 TMG26 wrote:
On January 25 2015 00:26 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 24 2015 15:15 Dismay wrote:
I got a key finally, and dropped money on Thrall's bundle. I'm having fun enjoying myself so far.


Im waiting until the inevitable "You get all now and future heroes" bundle to shed my money


Not gonna happen. People are already spending loads of $$ in this game, so they wont change business.


keep thinkin' that :D


I'm sure it will be offered around 2019 as interest is waning and the game is aging
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
January 25 2015 09:09 GMT
#5686
I watched the latest episode of Town Hall Heroes and they talked about hero league and MMR. According to them MMR is pretty much non-existant and you can face full premades on solo que without delay. They also figured out that if you play enough games you can theoretically get rank1 with a 16% win ratio (many thousand games) because 100 points are given when levelling up.

What is different is that they seems to get a lot more points per win than I do (110-160 for me, 200 until rank 10 for them).
tl.net humour: https://www.kurtvonmeier.com/blog-1/2018/1/14/on-audio-alan-watts-and-g-spencer-brown-discuss-laws-of-form
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 25 2015 09:15 GMT
#5687
Idk it depends I got 180 in one match and then 200 the next so idk how they give point or based on what.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10014 Posts
January 25 2015 09:38 GMT
#5688
give kerrigan gathering power plz :>
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
January 25 2015 10:35 GMT
#5689
On January 25 2015 18:15 [SXG]Phantom wrote:
Idk it depends I got 180 in one match and then 200 the next so idk how they give point or based on what.


I'd like to know that as well...
A friend of mine got 200 points until rank 25... I get around 130 every game and I'm rank 28 :-P
No idea how that's determined.
Hildegard
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Germany348 Posts
January 25 2015 13:12 GMT
#5690
I just got 110 and 101 on rank 42

I currently have 22:28 (started 1:13) and according hotslogs a MMR of 1483 (was as low as 600). Maybe it depends on the w/l ratio, but the better mine gets the less points I get.
tl.net humour: https://www.kurtvonmeier.com/blog-1/2018/1/14/on-audio-alan-watts-and-g-spencer-brown-discuss-laws-of-form
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
January 25 2015 13:36 GMT
#5691
On January 25 2015 18:09 Hildegard wrote:
I watched the latest episode of Town Hall Heroes and they talked about hero league and MMR. According to them MMR is pretty much non-existant and you can face full premades on solo que without delay. They also figured out that if you play enough games you can theoretically get rank1 with a 16% win ratio (many thousand games) because 100 points are given when levelling up.

What is different is that they seems to get a lot more points per win than I do (110-160 for me, 200 until rank 10 for them).


ye they were telling lies... based on non-facts
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-25 14:54:06
January 25 2015 14:53 GMT
#5692
If anyone still needs beta keys, you can participate in the TaKeTV Beta Brawl next Saturday and get beta keys for free if you signup today. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jUQ01D6a0naLJfFJcMJbuyt_6Zk1q8BJSpJXHRyzieI/viewform
also you can win 500€.

Tournament: Saturday, 31.01.2015
Last Signup: Sunday, 25.01.2015


Heroes of the Storm finally goes into closed beta!

Thats why we're starting off the new year with a tournament that not only 8 Pro teams, but also you can be a part of!
This way you wont just be able to play a new Blizzard game, but you can get in on the action together with your friends!

That's right, you and your friends can register for the tournament!

Tournament: Saturday, 31.01.2015
Last Signup: Sunday, 25.01.2015

To register for the tournament, please fill out this form. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jUQ01D6a0naLJfFJcMJbuyt_6Zk1q8BJSpJXHRyzieI/viewform

Even if you dont have a key we will provide you with enough to play in the tournament with your friends
You'll have to chose a team captain. We will contact him if your team gets chosen and send the keys to him.

Please make sure that you are free to play for the whole day!

Format:

The format of the tournament looks as follows:
The teams will be playing a Best of 1 throughout the round of 32, followed by a Best of 3 in the round of 16.

From here on out Best of 3s will be played all the way to the final, where the victorious team will be crowned.


Dates:

Date: 31st of January, 2015
Teams: 32
Prize: 500€
Stream: www.twitch.tv/TaKeTV

Schedule:

03:00 PM CET / Round of 32
04:00 PM CET / Round of 16
05:30 PM CET / Round of 8
07:00 PM CET / Halbfinale 1
08:30 PM CET / Halbfinale 2
10:00 PM CET / Finale


source: http://taketv.net/news/hots-turnier-23-01-15-8294
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 25 2015 16:07 GMT
#5693
There is definitely some kind of MMR behind the ranked system. I am up to rank 10 and still getting 200/60 for wins and losses.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-25 16:34:06
January 25 2015 16:33 GMT
#5694
Yeah when it comes to Town Hall watch them for entertainment not accurate facts. They also stated you can't have 2 Tyrande owl's on the map at a time in that episode, which is totally just made up. They got it confused with no more than 1 Cloud Serpent on the map. Every episode they say a solid 5-10 things that are just blatantly false. They really need a pro on that show, cause their knowledge gap shows.

As for Hero League, I don't think that 16% is accurate. There appears to be some degrees of caps, I have heard of people rank 40~ getting 60 for a win and 80 for a loss. Everyone started spouting that based off what players like So1lder's gains. But unless you have pro level win rates at some point it reduces the gains.

However there seems to be little to no mmr system being used to determine matches (like which 10 players are in a game together), my teams commonly insta-que into teams that look like they have never played the game before and we win in like 8-10 mins with 5+ level gaps, then next game insta-que into SMG. If there is an mmr system being used to determine matches, it appears to somehow also be even looser than the versus mode.
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Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
January 25 2015 17:20 GMT
#5695
I recently got the game and i was wondering if there is a decent hero you can unlock for 4k gold? or should i just save it.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
January 25 2015 17:22 GMT
#5696
On January 26 2015 01:07 xDaunt wrote:
There is definitely some kind of MMR behind the ranked system. I am up to rank 10 and still getting 200/60 for wins and losses.


I don't know. If that'd be the case, I should get more points if I'm on a winning streak, shouldn't I?
Well... I'm not. won 5 times in a row, got less points for every win and ended up at 100 now :-P
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-25 17:45:06
January 25 2015 17:44 GMT
#5697
On January 26 2015 02:20 Klowney wrote:
I recently got the game and i was wondering if there is a decent hero you can unlock for 4k gold? or should i just save it.


Tassadar is considered an all-around good hero and is 4K. But I would suggest to just play all the free heroes and then decide which one you like.
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
January 25 2015 17:48 GMT
#5698
On January 26 2015 02:20 Klowney wrote:
I recently got the game and i was wondering if there is a decent hero you can unlock for 4k gold? or should i just save it.


Tychus.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 25 2015 17:54 GMT
#5699
On January 26 2015 02:22 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 01:07 xDaunt wrote:
There is definitely some kind of MMR behind the ranked system. I am up to rank 10 and still getting 200/60 for wins and losses.


I don't know. If that'd be the case, I should get more points if I'm on a winning streak, shouldn't I?
Well... I'm not. won 5 times in a row, got less points for every win and ended up at 100 now :-P

Not necessarily. Blizzard clearly has some kind of internal skill metric that it assigns to players, which is why people are reporting differing levels of point gain/loss at different levels.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
January 25 2015 18:18 GMT
#5700
On January 26 2015 02:54 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2015 02:22 Swisslink wrote:
On January 26 2015 01:07 xDaunt wrote:
There is definitely some kind of MMR behind the ranked system. I am up to rank 10 and still getting 200/60 for wins and losses.


I don't know. If that'd be the case, I should get more points if I'm on a winning streak, shouldn't I?
Well... I'm not. won 5 times in a row, got less points for every win and ended up at 100 now :-P

Not necessarily. Blizzard clearly has some kind of internal skill metric that it assigns to players, which is why people are reporting differing levels of point gain/loss at different levels.


Not necessarily? What kind of internal skill metric would result in a lower amount of points gained if you're on a winning streak? I can't think of any.

I agree: there is some kind of internal skill metric - but I'm not sure it works as it should, tbh.
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