EPTAlso, quickmatch is funny now. Every game seems to have a Raynor that leads the game in deaths and does really stupid stuff. I played 4 games with a friend tonight and there were a total of 3 support over the 4 games both teams combined.
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
Also, quickmatch is funny now. Every game seems to have a Raynor that leads the game in deaths and does really stupid stuff. I played 4 games with a friend tonight and there were a total of 3 support over the 4 games both teams combined. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On January 26 2015 14:07 Eliezar wrote: Agree with Excaliber, especially since I'll play three games in a row and get widely varying points for winning. Also, quickmatch is funny now. Every game seems to have a Raynor that leads the game in deaths and does really stupid stuff. I played 4 games with a friend tonight and there were a total of 3 support over the 4 games both teams combined. There are a lot of people with the Founder's Pack now. I don't have anything against newbs, I was terrible once (and probably still am depending on which free hero I pick up). But the sheer concentration is amazing. It's just hard to stay patient and keep explaining what to do. Most listen if you're polite though. And I've faced more than a few opposing teams with obvious deficiencies as well, so I guess it balances out. | ||
[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On January 26 2015 15:04 [SXG]Phantom wrote: You know what's the most fun part about it? When founder pack players calls you a noob. "Help get the watchtower noob!" I'm starting to open games with: "PSA - it's not worth dying for early watch towers" The worst is when a Kerrigan and Illidan with fancy skins go in and die 2v5 and are like - we could have won that if you'd back us up. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 26 2015 15:04 [SXG]Phantom wrote: You know what's the most fun part about it? When founder pack players calls you a noob. "Help get the watchtower noob!" This is why I only play hero league. I can't stand the thought of being forced into an even shittier player pool. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10167 Posts
On January 26 2015 15:20 xDaunt wrote: This is why I only play hero league. I can't stand the thought of being forced into an even shittier player pool. I am already lvl 23 with 8 heroes and i am one of the shitty players from the founder's pack. Don't worry, the shitty pool of players is already coming to your league too :DDD | ||
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sushiko
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Narw
Poland884 Posts
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TheUnderking
Canada202 Posts
But a bad Illidan is a good way to lose a game... | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
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klup
France612 Posts
I'm a old moba player since 2005 I went Dota-> LoL -> Dota 2 and now I was wondering if I should go to Hots. I got bored of LoL because of imo very few diversity in gameplay mechanics, everybody have a skillshot a dash etc... whereas dota has more unique playstyle hero with what we can call "abused" set of ability such as space cow charge or storm ball lightning or Meepo army. I also prefer active items in dota that have much more impact and makes item building something really exigeant. Overall I love also the more wtf aspect of tp/laning switch ganking of dota. My question is the following : Is Hots atm is more : 1) very well balanced with heroes mechanics that are somewhat really similar (LoL style) or 2) Lots of unique style with ability that are borderline OP but everything balance out because there is so much OPness everywhere (Dota style) Also I heard Hots is much more on the get "objectives" done than laning. Are those objectives really shaking things up and are good initiator for ganks etc.? | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On January 26 2015 21:53 klup wrote: Hi all, I'm a old moba player since 2005 I went Dota-> LoL -> Dota 2 and now I was wondering if I should go to Hots. I got bored of LoL because of imo very few diversity in gameplay mechanics, everybody have a skillshot a dash etc... whereas dota has more unique playstyle hero with what we can call "abused" set of ability such as space cow charge or storm ball lightning or Meepo army. I also prefer active items in dota that have much more impact and makes item building something really exigeant. Overall I love also the more wtf aspect of tp/laning switch ganking of dota. My question is the following : Is Hots atm is more : 1) very well balanced with heroes mechanics that are somewhat really similar (LoL style) or 2) Lots of unique style with ability that are borderline OP but everything balance out because there is so much OPness everywhere (Dota style) Also I heard Hots is much more on the get "objectives" done than laning. Are those objectives really shaking things up and are good initiator for ganks etc.? It's by far 1. It's much closer to LoL than DotA and the skills are almost universally easy to understand. The only exceptions are the "specialists" who have completely unique movesets that are borderline OP with the right context. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
On January 26 2015 21:53 klup wrote: Hi all, I'm a old moba player since 2005 I went Dota-> LoL -> Dota 2 and now I was wondering if I should go to Hots. I got bored of LoL because of imo very few diversity in gameplay mechanics, everybody have a skillshot a dash etc... whereas dota has more unique playstyle hero with what we can call "abused" set of ability such as space cow charge or storm ball lightning or Meepo army. I also prefer active items in dota that have much more impact and makes item building something really exigeant. Overall I love also the more wtf aspect of tp/laning switch ganking of dota. My question is the following : Is Hots atm is more : 1) very well balanced with heroes mechanics that are somewhat really similar (LoL style) or 2) Lots of unique style with ability that are borderline OP but everything balance out because there is so much OPness everywhere (Dota style) Also I heard Hots is much more on the get "objectives" done than laning. Are those objectives really shaking things up and are good initiator for ganks etc.? My answer would be "both". Hero mechanics are fairly simple and similar BUT you have a few heroes who play completely differently, they are almost all from the "specialist" class : Azmodan, Abathur, murky, gazlowe, they seem weak overall but have OP mechanics to make up for it. The objectives are there to force fights, and they accomplish this job very well, you cannot win by ignoring objectives, so you'll have to fight for them. Honestly, try it if you can, I completely stopped playing LoL since I got access. The game right now is lacking in heroes number and in various UI/bugs/feature but this is only the beginning of the beta. The core of the game itself is really addicting and the fact that the games are much shorter makes it, in my opinion, much more enjoyable when you have limited time. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
Azmodan, Abathur, murky, gazlowe, they seem weak overall but have OP mechanics to make up for it. I think it's quite misleading to state this as being OP given the context (compared to DOTA). Heroes in this game are much "weaker" than in both LOL and Dota, but its true that some heroes are quite different from other MOBA's. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
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Hildegard
Germany348 Posts
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Razhil
Belgium208 Posts
I'm mainly playing Valla (my MMR on Hotslogs is around 2k5 - 2k7) and I think you should be picking your build depending on enemy team AND maps. Everything below is my humble opinion. My favorite build is this AA build : http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/valla#rrB0 It gives really high sustain and make it really hard for anybody to 1v1 you once you got your 10+10 stacks rolling. It works good on Garden & Mines because most teamfights will happen around creeps/objectives where you may hopefully have stacks already pilled up before the teamfight. Otherwise it helps getting the objective faster than another build. On Crow & Blackheart, I'd go for Multishot build as a safer way to stale the objective capture and because there tend to be a lot more pokes before teamfights there. On Dragon & Temple, I'll take according to the teams as being able to win skirmish in smaller numbers is often better. AA build is often better in my experience because sustain let you live. My lvl16 talent is highly dependant on teams, whatever my build. Double Vault is really useful againt a Dive heavy team or even a single The Hunt Illidan. Executionner can be pick if you need high DPS and the team provide a lot of CC/slows (Jaina and Arthas come first to my mind, easily enabling executionner on the whole enemy team. Other heroes with AoE slows are also good.) I tried BfB a few time but I find the impact too low and the CD too high (or it simply doesn't fit my playstyle). I also pick ultimate depending on maps. If not enough CC, I'll pick Rain, otherwise I'll go Strafe except on Crow & Garden where a lot of fight happen in the jungle where it's easier to stun multiple people with Rain and harder to dodge stuff while strafing. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 26 2015 20:31 TheUnderking wrote: I've seen some pretty cool moves by raynors or illidans this weekend. Most of the Raynor's I've seen just do their own thing and hold a lane. It's not awful when the other 4 of us are doing objectives. But a bad Illidan is a good way to lose a game... I would ban Illidan every game if I could just to ensure that I never saw another Illidan on my team again. The vast majority of Illidan players are catastrophically bad with him. | ||
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