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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:18 FreeZEternal wrote: I'm having a good win rate with Illidan. What really pisses me off is bad stitches. I mean come one, just hook, stun, eat and gg. Oh boy, don't get me started. In one of my recent losses, I played with the worst Stitches ever on my team. He didn't land one hook all game. He didn't gorge anyone useful. Towards the end of the game, I spent a teamfight mostly watching Stitches just to see wtf he was doing. I SAW HIM RUN AWAY WITH NEARLY FULL HEALTH WHILE THE REST OF US WERE ENGAGED. And no, he wasn't late to the fight. He was in front, and then he RAN AWAY needlessly. He literally was doing nothing, which put the rest of the game in proper context. As someone else on my team remarked, the guy was trying to play Stitches like an assassin. | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:30 xDaunt wrote: Oh boy, don't get me started. In one of my recent losses, I played with the worst Stitches ever on my team. He didn't land one hook all game. He didn't gorge anyone useful. Towards the end of the game, I spent a teamfight mostly watching Stitches just to see wtf he was doing. I SAW HIM RUN AWAY WITH NEARLY FULL HEALTH WHILE THE REST OF US WERE ENGAGED. And no, he wasn't late to the fight. He was in front, and then he RAN AWAY needlessly. He literally was doing nothing, which put the rest of the game in proper context. As someone else on my team remarked, the guy was trying to play Stitches like an assassin. I was trying to play Hammer to get the lvl 5 gold in quick match last night. I had a stitches not once, but TWICE hook a Kerrigan right into melee of me. The second time he hooked, gorged, and spit her out behind me. I hate him so much. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 26 2015 15:20 xDaunt wrote: This is why I only play hero league. I can't stand the thought of being forced into an even shittier player pool. Quick match is actually very entertaining. Pretend to be a learning new guy and get them to explain why they're doing things. The best is when you get the 10+ death Tyrande with the founder pack skin trying to shot call. The strategies these guys come up with are amazing. Doomed to the cess pool until Blizzard fixes the reconnect system. | ||
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sushiko
197 Posts
Also, no one ever listens to the retreat ping. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 27 2015 03:20 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Quick match is actually very entertaining. Pretend to be a learning new guy and get them to explain why they're doing things. The best is when you get the 10+ death Tyrande with the founder pack skin trying to shot call. The strategies these guys come up with are amazing. Doomed to the cess pool until Blizzard fixes the reconnect system. I haven't won a quickmatch game in a long time. My teams have just been soooooo bad. The players are so new and clueless with regards to what they should be doing that I am just never on the same page that they are, which creates all sorts of problems. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
 It's funny how people are already very close minded with the current "meta" (or what they think it is) I've had a malfurion in a ranked game flame our valla because she picked strafe and not rain of vengeance. When I confronted him and told him both are very much viable he insisted and said strafe is garbage you should never ever pick. A quick look at hotslog puts him at 3000+ ranked which is decent (but way below me :/) so I'm confused why he would think that. | ||
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sushiko
197 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 27 2015 04:38 sushiko wrote: The few issues with strafe is that it's easy to interrupt with stuns and knockbacks(not too sure but i think tychus nades does?), closer to more enemies, and can't use multi/hungering arrow while its casting. With that said I still think strafe is valid as rain of vengeance isn't too useful without wombo combo lineups. Honestly though, people complain a bit too much on individual talent choices. I'm more frustrated at the lack of map awareness/positioning/teamfighting, just like sc2/hearthstone/dota2 players think because they know a build means they're automatically playing well... Yeah, this is exactly correct. More than anything else, what separates the good players from the bad players are map awareness and situational awareness. I really could not care less about what talents a player takes when he yolos into the enemy team at a boss or does some other stupid engagement that results in his death. EDIT: Okay, I need to vent in here until we get our own subforum and a dedicated QQ thread. I played a game over the weekend where my team lost for the very reason discussed above. We were way ahead, but then we started to lose because the squishies on my team refused to wait for me (Thrall) or our tank (Tyrael) to initiate teamfights. They kept engaging before we got there and were ready to initiate. I actually gave a talk to the team explaining that they needed to just wait for one of us to engage and no one but Tyrael or me should be initiating ANY fights, period. At this same time, the enemy team was at our boss killing it, and we were actively discussing the fact that the enemy team was there. So what happens? Our dipshit Uther, literally within 60 seconds of me giving my rant about no one but Tyrael and me initiating fights, runs over to the boss ahead of the rest of the team (we were killing off the other boss) and, predictably, gets killed by the entire enemy team. Needless to say, we lost the game, and I absolutely lost my shit when that happened. The first step to being a good player is completely eliminating that kind of bush league mistake from your game. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On January 26 2015 23:07 Hildegard wrote: New observation: After a really good streak (4 wins, 7:3 last 10) I finally got more points again: 184. So there is no lock on the point gain but a pretty sticky MMR. I think we can assume Hero League is looking at Quick Match MMR to help with the confidence intervals cuz it sounds like they're closing really fast. On January 27 2015 04:48 FreeZEternal wrote: Looks like Muradin is more popular now than Arthas. Interesting. Arthas poor lvl 20 choices really hurt him and Muradin brings a ton of CC and out of combat healing and generally takes care of himself in a fight the way Arthas does. Edit: Doesn't hurt that at 2k, everyone in Hero League probably has him too. | ||
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RouaF
France4120 Posts
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:10 xDaunt wrote: I would ban Illidan every game if I could just to ensure that I never saw another Illidan on my team again. The vast majority of Illidan players are catastrophically bad with him. I hardly play Illidan but had to choose him in a hero league game because I only own 11 heroes and for some reason the 9 people that picked before me all chose characters I had... Somehow I absolutely wrecked everybody in the game with my random I didn't know what I was doing with Illidan talents and play and did not die the entire game while getting over 30 kills (every other person on my team died at least 5 times). And at the end of the game the only thing I could think was...what the hell is wrong with EVERY single Illidan I ever get on my team...obviously at least some of them have to have more experience with him than I do.../sigh | ||
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Eliezar
United States481 Posts
On January 27 2015 04:04 RouaF wrote: Bad stitches will even throw enemies on top of their own abathur It's funny how people are already very close minded with the current "meta" (or what they think it is) I've had a malfurion in a ranked game flame our valla because she picked strafe and not rain of vengeance. When I confronted him and told him both are very much viable he insisted and said strafe is garbage you should never ever pick. A quick look at hotslog puts him at 3000+ ranked which is decent (but way below me :/) so I'm confused why he would think that. I would say three things 1) Being good at the game does not mean you understand the game 2) Understanding the game does not mean you are good at the game 3) People drastically exaggerate the difference in power between different heroes. And yes I'm tired of people saying "pick tier 1 plz" followed by "well we lost now because you picked _____" That's so dumb it isn't even funny and I don't even believe there is a clear tier 1 outside of Thrall and Stitches...(I could just be upset because I lost a 1v1 to a Thrall who was at 25% health because his healing was more than my dps...and I was at 100% health...) | ||
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DoDonPachi
Canada69 Posts
I've played a Valla on BlackHeart's Bay, me and him were near the pirate, and we see a Tyrael trying to turn in. We interrupt him, get him near 50% health and he retreat. I ping a retreat, since i don't saw 3 of their players on the minimap and proceed to get to the merc camp on our side. 3 second after the ping, i saw Muradin getting ambushed by a Lili waiting in the fog near the pirate, a Malfurion coming from bottom and the Tyrael at 50% health. Obviously Muradin get killed, dropping 3-4 coin and then proceed to flame me from leaving a 2v1 fight... Then i explain to him that Tyrael still have a lot of health, has one of the best mobility, that the possibility of an ambush were very high and that we were both low on mana, etc etc. We lose the game because in the most important fight, it was a 4v5 since the Muradin on my team was busy clearing some "important" creep wave GG | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On January 27 2015 05:41 Eliezar wrote: That's so dumb it isn't even funny and I don't even believe there is a clear tier 1 outside of Thrall and Stitches...(I could just be upset because I lost a 1v1 to a Thrall who was at 25% health because his healing was more than my dps...and I was at 100% health...) Haha, yeah, Thrall is hilarious. I played a game last night where the enemy Stitches would keep eating me at the beginning of teamfights (ie he beelined right for me). While I was rotting in his stomach, the rest of his team would be dumping their major burst damage and ultimates on my teammates. Every time, I'd pop out of stitches at like 25% health, and go to work with windfury. I'd be at nearly full health within 2 seconds and would just mow down one enemy hero after another. So retarded. I looked at Zuna's updated tier list, and he moved Thrall down to Tier 3. So dumb. No hero with that damage, sustainability, and utility is Tier 3. Period. He's hands down the best offtank in the game. | ||
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TigerKarl
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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