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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
December 12 2014 00:06 GMT
#4701
Have you tested out lili before you bought her? The test stage is pretty decent.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 12 2014 00:28 GMT
#4702
You're going to see most heroes in game at one point or another if you play enough games, so you should get a sense for which ones are good or "fun." You can also pretty much figure out what a hero can do by playing the try mode. I tried Jaina before playing any games against her, and I could tell immediately that she was not someone that I'd be interested in (the relatively low damage with an absence of a good escape was brutally obvious).
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 12 2014 00:49 GMT
#4703
I enjoy her gameplay, but too much of her damage is locked up in Blizzard which just doesn't hit anyone that has an escape.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 12 2014 01:04 GMT
#4704
Given how easy she is to kill, she should hit like a fucking truck.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 12 2014 01:28 GMT
#4705
On December 12 2014 10:04 xDaunt wrote:
Given how easy she is to kill, she should hit like a fucking truck.


She's actually really good in a wombo combo setup, but she really brings utility rather than raw damage. She is the only person in the game with an AoE weaken (+25% damage taken debuff) and she keeps the entire enemy team constantly slowed. She just needs AoE CC and followup damage.

She's really a support in an Assassin's body.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
December 12 2014 01:51 GMT
#4706
On December 12 2014 08:59 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 18:33 BluzMan wrote:
On December 11 2014 16:28 RoieTRS wrote:
Played a few games with friends and had enough gold to unlock lili
did it
was disappointed
oops


Even though Lili isn't the cream of the crop here, HotS doesn't really have unwinnable heroes atm. You can rock with Lili, Diablo, Sonya or any other hero pretty well. Hell, even Murky.

No the problem is blizzard won't put a "fun" tag on characters so I don't know who the fun ones are until i pay $$ for them.


You can try them out in Test-mode to get a basic feel and wait until the free week. And fun is incredibly subjective, ones you find fun won't necessarily be ones i find fun.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 12 2014 07:56 GMT
#4707
To be honest I find Lili quite fun, albeit a little bit weak. Maybe if she had mana removed she would even be decent.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
December 12 2014 08:59 GMT
#4708
Fun is way more objective than you think.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
December 12 2014 09:30 GMT
#4709
On December 12 2014 17:59 RoieTRS wrote:
Fun is way more objective than you think.


Okay, you totally proved me wrong.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
December 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#4710
On December 12 2014 04:25 FliedLice wrote:
It has her at 51% winrate as far as I can see, a couple of weeks ago she was rock bottom with around 40%... So its not that bad


If you look on "Sitewide Hero and Map Statistics" you can see that in the past week across all leagues, she has the second worst winrate of all heroes: 44.9%, with only Sonya being lower. Last week she was the absolute worst, with a winrate of 41.3%. The week before... also last at 42.6%. We could go on.

I think she needs a little help.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
December 13 2014 04:11 GMT
#4711
Had like 15k gold until I bought my first hero. Got Uther since I mostly play support... I fucking love that guy.



Has there been any Warden hero - like maiev shadowsong - been shown or teased at blizzcon or wherever?
Kevmeister @ Dota2
wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
December 13 2014 04:24 GMT
#4712
On December 13 2014 13:11 FliedLice wrote:
Had like 15k gold until I bought my first hero. Got Uther since I mostly play support... I fucking love that guy.



Has there been any Warden hero - like maiev shadowsong - been shown or teased at blizzcon or wherever?

Zeratul is essentially a WC3 Warden, but without the ultimates.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
December 13 2014 04:32 GMT
#4713
I think Warden showed up in one of the Blizzcon teaser screenshots.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-13 04:40:12
December 13 2014 04:34 GMT
#4714
On December 13 2014 13:32 xDaunt wrote:
I think Warden showed up in one of the Blizzcon teaser screenshots.


It was a warden skin for Tyrande. If you google Warden Tyrande the image looks exactly like Maiev
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
December 13 2014 05:43 GMT
#4715
Boo.
Kevmeister @ Dota2
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
December 13 2014 21:30 GMT
#4716
You'll just have to wait all war3 heroes will be adapted for sure in some form.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 14 2014 00:43 GMT
#4717
I'm waiting eagerly for Sylvanas and Ragnaros <3
hi
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
December 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#4718
So I got +1000 games on DotA 2 but after +100 playing this I'm having hard time playing DotA anymore.

It's just nice to pick whatever hero you want, go to game with almost instant queue and then play a game thats not going to drag on forever. Not to mention that playing with Blizzard heroes is pretty awesome and support heroes aren't mostly just food late game.

Tried to play couple games of DotA but heroes just feel sluggish now and I tend to get bored before the game ends. I guess this initital attraction might wear off and I end up back in DotA.

tl;dr HotS ruined DotA for me.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-14 17:21:10
December 14 2014 16:48 GMT
#4719
On December 14 2014 10:53 Vaelone wrote:
So I got +1000 games on DotA 2 but after +100 playing this I'm having hard time playing DotA anymore.

It's just nice to pick whatever hero you want, go to game with almost instant queue and then play a game thats not going to drag on forever. Not to mention that playing with Blizzard heroes is pretty awesome and support heroes aren't mostly just food late game.

Tried to play couple games of DotA but heroes just feel sluggish now and I tend to get bored before the game ends. I guess this initital attraction might wear off and I end up back in DotA.

tl;dr HotS ruined DotA for me.

HotS has ruined DotA and LoL for me, and it's only going to get worse as Blizzard adds new and more interesting heroes to the roster. I can't see myself ever going back to either game.
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
December 14 2014 17:00 GMT
#4720
Moreover, HotS has ruined sc2 for me ((

At least for this dreamseason :DD
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