EPTNew Expansion: Whispers of the Old Gods - Page 28
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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meatpudding
Australia520 Posts
This can definitely replace DoA in handlock, with giants, twilight drake and watchers all giving good value. Compared to DoA you only need one minion on the board, and that minion gets to hide behind the taunt. I see a new age of control decks upon us. | ||
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Penlievskiov
Netherlands0 Posts
On March 24 2016 10:58 Advantageous wrote: 1. Sea Reaver is not a pirate. By Blizzard's definition of PIRATE, they're strictly referring to the Bloodsail Pirates and Pirates that inhabited Deadmines. Sea Reaver is a part of a race called Kvaldir on the continent of Northrend, who dwell in the mist of shores and attack ships. 2. Booty Bay Bodyguard is not a pirate... If you even look at the artwork it doesn't look like a pirate. Goblins are known to be traders, and Booty Bay, although inhabited by many pirates, is merely a neutral trade city. Thus, Booty Bay Bodyguards are NOT pirates. Seriously, do your research before you talk out of your sphincters. Booty Bay is a large pirate city nestled into the cliffs surrounding a beautiful blue lagoon on the southern tip of Stranglethorn Vale. Also: Captain Greenskin.Blizz could easily have given BBB the Pirate tag and try not to be a dick, this is not battle.net. | ||
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Pandahunterz
Netherlands213 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
It's also arguably a worse drop later than cards like Defender of Argus or Faceless Manipulator. If you really just want something with a lot of stats the latter is better, and if you want a big beefy taunt Argus provides up to 2 while being less awful if you have the board presence to drop it Turn 4. Pretty much the only time Faceless Shambler is good is in a warlock deck where you can Power Overwhelming something and then play this, since it will copy the stats and not the buff. | ||
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itchiko
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N'zoth, the corruptor Neutral 10 Mana 5/7 Battlecry: Summon your Deathrattle minions that dies this game. Undercity Huckster Rogue 2 Mana 2/2 Deathratlle: add a random class card to your hand (from your opponent's class). | ||
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itchiko
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Will certainly find it's place on Wild where the amount of good deathrattle minion are huge (and double belcher for "free" should probably prevent you from dying this turn). In standard harder to say. That does promote synergy with Infested Tauren for example but the Tauren seems pretty poor to begin with. Because of the synergy with Tyrion, Paladin is the most likely to find room for it, I would say. Also the under city Huckster seems super good especially in swarm strategy (directly into the zoolock it goes). That said I wander if it is really neutral. the grey bar seems slightly off from the other ones. could it be priest? or rogue? I wish they would not preview with golden cards those can be confusing. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
Undercity Huckster is awesome, a neutral 2-drop that's similar to Dark Peddler, at least I hope it's neutral. Really liking this one too. | ||
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
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itchiko
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On March 25 2016 02:34 GiftPflanZe wrote: Does n'Zoth summon the rouge raptor card which copies deathrattle? Or any minion targeted by Explorer's hat/ Ancestral spirit ? Hard to tell if it needs to have a Deathrattle when it died or the keyword Deathrattle written on it. Will need a purple confirmation for this one. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:34 GiftPflanZe wrote: Does n'Zoth summon the rouge raptor card which copies deathrattle? No, since it comes from a battlecry, it only has a deathrattle once it enters play, it doesn't have a passive game-state like C'Thun does. Also, on inspection, Undercity Huckster is probably a Rogue card. They're the only class not to get any reveals so far, and it's a Burgle-type effect. I just wish they didn't preview the gold versions, the grey strip for Rogue, Priest and Neutral look almost exactly the same. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:29 NewSunshine wrote: N'Zoth is awesome, way to bring back the deathrattle synergy we would have lost from Naxx, it's actually better than any deathrattle synergy Naxx had. It's a great build-around card, so cool. Undercity Huckster is awesome, a neutral 2-drop that's similar to Dark Peddler. Really liking this one too. Undercity Huckster is nothing like Dark Peddler... if anything it's a minion form of Burgle (kinda) or a early game version of Nefarians, but without the Dragon title, only 1 class card, and smaller body.The only good thing about Huckster that makes it plausible to be played, unlike Bulge, is the fact that it costs 1 less mana than Burgle, and grants early game board control along with the effect of taking a card from your opponent's class. The effect itself could be game changing, or not, but with new Forbidden Spells it's worth putting this card into decks. Mages are definitely going to start running more counter spells though... | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:41 Advantageous wrote: Undercity Huckster is nothing like Dark Peddler... if anything it's a minion form of Burgle (kinda) or a early game version of Nefarians, but without the Dragon title, only 1 class card, and smaller body.The only good thing about Huckster that makes it plausible to be played, unlike Bulge, is the fact that it costs 1 less mana than Burgle, and grants early game board control along with the effect of taking a card from your opponent's class. The effect itself could be game changing, or not, but with new Forbidden Spells it's worth putting this card into decks. Mages are definitely going to start running more counter spells though... It's a 2-mana 2/2 that gives you another card, it's almost exactly like Dark Peddler. You can't use it to dig for burst damage, but otherwise it works pretty much the same. | ||
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itchiko
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On March 25 2016 02:34 GiftPflanZe wrote: Does n'Zoth summon the rouge raptor card which copies deathrattle? We got the purple answer. Will not count Deathrattle given by effect. So no second (third?) life for the Raptors. Edit also confirmed the Undercity card to be rogue class only | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:10 Seuss wrote: It's not a very good Turn 4 drop because most of the sub-4 mana cards worth copying from are leaving Standard (e.g. Deathlord, a popped Nerubian Egg, anything with Velen's Chosen cast on it). It's also arguably a worse drop later than cards like Defender of Argus or Faceless Manipulator. If you really just want something with a lot of stats the latter is better, and if you want a big beefy taunt Argus provides up to 2 while being less awful if you have the board presence to drop it Turn 4. Pretty much the only time Faceless Shambler is good is in a warlock deck where you can Power Overwhelming something and then play this, since it will copy the stats and not the buff. The important part is looking at the released cards, the idea for how this could be good is already there. You use it on cards that either have a drawback for cheap mana (Coin + Eerie Statue curves nicely into this, but then you have a Statue doing nothing behind a taunt, but like I said the idea already exists). The idea to copy stats from temporary buffs is also already around with the original Faceless Manipulator and Void Terror so it's not hard to imagine new cards making this usable. Also, the Undercity Huckster is 100% a Rogue card, put the stripes side by side or use a color analyzer if your eyes aren't great (http://html-color-codes.info/colors-from-image/). Plus, so far all the Undercity faction cards have been Rogue cards for whatever reason (minus Sylvannas incase Mr. Pedantic comes back) . | ||
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:37 itchiko wrote: Or any minion targeted by Explorer's hat/ Ancestral spirit ? Hard to tell if it needs to have a Deathrattle when it died or the keyword Deathrattle written on it. Will need a purple confirmation for this one. I see,thanks. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13995 Posts
On March 25 2016 03:43 smr wrote: We all know why N'zoth is here... to keep Dreadsteed alive in standard : D Was just about to say that :D | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On March 25 2016 03:03 Wuster wrote: The important part is looking at the released cards, the idea for how this could be good is already there. You use it on cards that either have a drawback for cheap mana (Coin + Eerie Statue curves nicely into this, but then you have a Statue doing nothing behind a taunt, but like I said the idea already exists). The idea to copy stats from temporary buffs is also already around with the original Faceless Manipulator and Void Terror so it's not hard to imagine new cards making this usable. You're explaining ideas that I already talked about in the very post you quoted. Coin + Eerie -> Shambler falls under "if you want a big beefy taunt" (i.e. Argus is better). Similarly, the conclusion of my post pointed out the possibility of copying stats, of which the only instance that stands out is PO + Existing Minion -> Shambler on Turn 5, (which, by itself, isn't enough of a raison d'être for the card). | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On March 25 2016 03:43 smr wrote: We all know why N'zoth is here... to keep Dreadsteed alive in standard : D Damn, I gotta give it to you, that's a cool idea. Fill your board with Dreadsteeds, even if they got silenced or stolen. Sounds pretty good to me. | ||
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