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https://tempostorm.com/articles/tempostorm-parts-ways-with-hyerim-magicamy-lee
TLDR:
- TS believes MagicAmy is one person and is actually Hyerim Lee
- They investigated the accusations extensively and determined there was no case of fraud in regards to her interactions with TS, but the matter was still a major personal issue between her and those accusing her
- No proof found for win trading/botting/account sharing allegations
- TempoStorm offered to support MagicAmy to have her play in an offline tournament to clear her rep but she chose to leave the scene instead.
So basically, TS investigation concluded that MagicAmy was in fact not a scammer, but she chose to leave anyway.
If you hadn't kept up with the prior drama, here's a good summary: http://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2wcfzv/magicamy_megathread/coplx33
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Well everyone pretty much knew that there really couldn't be any conclusive proof to support the allegations.
It seems that it came down to: play at an offline tournament or else.
And she chose else.
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On February 20 2015 19:04 Pokebunny wrote:
- TempoStorm offered to support MagicAmy to have her play in an offline tournament to clear her rep but she chose to leave the scene instead.
This is incredibly suspicious. Interesting damage control, but this still feels like Hearthstone's Vera Lynn.
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am i going to get banned if i say my opinion and that this doesn't seem legit and i think there's lies in those statements?
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so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.
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On February 20 2015 19:43 chocomaro wrote:
am i going to get banned if i say my opinion and that this doesn't seem legit and i think there's lies in those statements?
No, but you might get banned for martyring.
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No, but you might get banned for martyring.
what's martyring?
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On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.
If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.
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i don't believe it too. i also think they are doing damage control. but i don't care about that much, i just love the whole matter. i do not need a conclusion. i was amused, i had fun and i can not take reynad serious, he is such a salty tryhard and i love it.
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On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true. If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.
it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.
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On February 20 2015 19:57 chocomaro wrote:what's martyring?
saying something like "i may get banned for this but here it comes anyway...."
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As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.
So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.
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On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true. If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional. it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.
tl;dr
"prove your innocence" or "if she was innocent, what is she hiding?"
So, that's at least 2 competitive female players the user base has chased out of the competitive scene.
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On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.
So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.
Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations publicly. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them.
Noone to blame but herself for being off a team
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Polite way to get rid of her while allowing her to save face. Very nice from TempoStorm, not sure if Amy deserved it after all the shenanigans she did.
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On February 20 2015 20:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.
So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before. Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them. Noone to blame but herself for being off a team
...She has no reason to "prove" her innocence to some random dude who decided to stalk her accounts. Dude, listen to yourself, this is Glenn Beck level of mind gymnastics you're performing.
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Seems like accusing people of this has become a common herd behavior among esports communities. Pity.
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On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true. If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional. it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.
Because people needed proof to begin with? Seriously dude what color is the sky on your planet? People don't need reasons to stir up drama. I mean look at you. They dug through employment records, travel records, everything they could find and found no evidence that MagicAmy isn't who she said she is. But because she opted out of the bullshit (which anyone with a passing acquaintance with reality knows she'd get), you're now more convinced than ever that she was a fraud.
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On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true. If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going
Oh come on you can't be serious on that one. Say she goes out in the first or second round which could happen easily enough regardless if she's actually the person who played the entire time or not you'd seriously suggest it would end with that.
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On February 20 2015 20:28 litlnoobs wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 20:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.
So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before. Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them. Noone to blame but herself for being off a team ...She has no reason to "prove" her innocence to some random dude who decided to stalk her accounts. Dude, listen to yourself, this is Glenn Beck level of mind gymnastics you're performing.
In the world of public figures (and do not kid yourself here, Magicamy was a public figure) when you're accused of something you have to disprove it or your assumed guilty of the accusation.
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