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Tempo Storm and MagicAmy part ways

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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 10:17:26
February 20 2015 10:04 GMT
#1
https://tempostorm.com/articles/tempostorm-parts-ways-with-hyerim-magicamy-lee

TLDR:

- TS believes MagicAmy is one person and is actually Hyerim Lee

- They investigated the accusations extensively and determined there was no case of fraud in regards to her interactions with TS, but the matter was still a major personal issue between her and those accusing her

- No proof found for win trading/botting/account sharing allegations

- TempoStorm offered to support MagicAmy to have her play in an offline tournament to clear her rep but she chose to leave the scene instead.

So basically, TS investigation concluded that MagicAmy was in fact not a scammer, but she chose to leave anyway.

If you hadn't kept up with the prior drama, here's a good summary: http://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/2wcfzv/magicamy_megathread/coplx33
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
February 20 2015 10:10 GMT
#2
Well everyone pretty much knew that there really couldn't be any conclusive proof to support the allegations.

It seems that it came down to: play at an offline tournament or else.

And she chose else.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
February 20 2015 10:30 GMT
#3
On February 20 2015 19:04 Pokebunny wrote:
- TempoStorm offered to support MagicAmy to have her play in an offline tournament to clear her rep but she chose to leave the scene instead.

This is incredibly suspicious. Interesting damage control, but this still feels like Hearthstone's Vera Lynn.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
chocomaro
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada16 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 10:44:08
February 20 2015 10:43 GMT
#4
am i going to get banned if i say my opinion and that this doesn't seem legit and i think there's lies in those statements?

Supzors
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 20 2015 10:54 GMT
#5
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
February 20 2015 10:55 GMT
#6
On February 20 2015 19:43 chocomaro wrote:
am i going to get banned if i say my opinion and that this doesn't seem legit and i think there's lies in those statements?


No, but you might get banned for martyring.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
chocomaro
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada16 Posts
February 20 2015 10:57 GMT
#7


No, but you might get banned for martyring.


what's martyring?
Supzors
piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
February 20 2015 11:00 GMT
#8
On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.


If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.
lovesushi
Profile Joined February 2014
Japan0 Posts
February 20 2015 11:16 GMT
#9
i don't believe it too. i also think they are doing damage control. but i don't care about that much, i just love the whole matter. i do not need a conclusion. i was amused, i had fun and i can not take reynad serious, he is such a salty tryhard and i love it.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
February 20 2015 11:16 GMT
#10
On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.


If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.

it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Enox
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1667 Posts
February 20 2015 11:17 GMT
#11
On February 20 2015 19:57 chocomaro wrote:
Show nested quote +


No, but you might get banned for martyring.


what's martyring?

saying something like "i may get banned for this but here it comes anyway...."
If you think it's too hard there are solutions other than asking for a nerf, getting better is the first that comes to mind.
litlnoobs
Profile Joined January 2013
United States8 Posts
February 20 2015 11:24 GMT
#12
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.

So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.





litlnoobs
Profile Joined January 2013
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 11:26:26
February 20 2015 11:26 GMT
#13
On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:
On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.


If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.

it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.


tl;dr
"prove your innocence" or "if she was innocent, what is she hiding?"

So, that's at least 2 competitive female players the user base has chased out of the competitive scene.

Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 11:27:18
February 20 2015 11:26 GMT
#14
On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.

So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.

Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations publicly. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them.

Noone to blame but herself for being off a team
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 11:28:00
February 20 2015 11:27 GMT
#15
Polite way to get rid of her while allowing her to save face. Very nice from TempoStorm, not sure if Amy deserved it after all the shenanigans she did.
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
litlnoobs
Profile Joined January 2013
United States8 Posts
February 20 2015 11:28 GMT
#16
On February 20 2015 20:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.

So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.

Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them.

Noone to blame but herself for being off a team


...She has no reason to "prove" her innocence to some random dude who decided to stalk her accounts. Dude, listen to yourself, this is Glenn Beck level of mind gymnastics you're performing.
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
February 20 2015 11:32 GMT
#17
Seems like accusing people of this has become a common herd behavior among esports communities. Pity.
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piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
February 20 2015 11:35 GMT
#18
On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:
On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.


If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.

it would have been something at least. and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going. ofc there's always gonna be the guy who stirs shit up just for the sake of it which nobody can ever shut up, but doing that tourney and showing solid play would have been enough for most people i think.



Because people needed proof to begin with? Seriously dude what color is the sky on your planet? People don't need reasons to stir up drama. I mean look at you. They dug through employment records, travel records, everything they could find and found no evidence that MagicAmy isn't who she said she is. But because she opted out of the bullshit (which anyone with a passing acquaintance with reality knows she'd get), you're now more convinced than ever that she was a fraud.
Whoranzone
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
February 20 2015 11:37 GMT
#19
On February 20 2015 20:16 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 20:00 piegasm wrote:
On February 20 2015 19:54 Kabras wrote:
so she got a chance to settle things once and for all and chose the backdoor out.. well, this doesn't prove anything, including her innocence. it could be that she just doesn't care anymore and doesn't want to bother with clearing her HS name but... the way i see it is if she has nothing to hide she might as well have done this one tournament to shut everyone up and then left with a clear rep if that's what she really wanted. now i can't help but think the drama is true.


If you think everyone would have shut up and let bygones be bygones just because she participated in this one tournament, you're delusional.

and since there's no actual proof against her and she would've done that tourney there would have been very little reason for people to keep the drama going

Oh come on you can't be serious on that one. Say she goes out in the first or second round which could happen easily enough regardless if she's actually the person who played the entire time or not you'd seriously suggest it would end with that.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 20 2015 11:39 GMT
#20
On February 20 2015 20:28 litlnoobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2015 20:26 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On February 20 2015 20:24 litlnoobs wrote:
As we see, no matter the conclusions Chakki et. al have already deemed her guilty based merely on amateur internet sleuthing.

So now, MagicAmy is out a team and has her reputation ruined, and Chakki et. al still stream with even more followers than before.

Magicamy didn't do anything to counter the accusations. She just up and left despite having her team willing to back her up and help disprove them.

Noone to blame but herself for being off a team


...She has no reason to "prove" her innocence to some random dude who decided to stalk her accounts. Dude, listen to yourself, this is Glenn Beck level of mind gymnastics you're performing.

In the world of public figures (and do not kid yourself here, Magicamy was a public figure) when you're accused of something you have to disprove it or your assumed guilty of the accusation.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
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