EPTTempo Storm and MagicAmy part ways - Page 13
| Forum Index > Hearthstone General |
|
piegasm
United States266 Posts
| ||
|
schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On March 02 2015 06:16 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: + Show Spoiler + Piegasm, why do you hold women to such unbelievable esteem? I mean you take it so far, its like you have formed them into some angel or maybe even more pure and unattainable. When men have witchhunts they have to leave the scene too, why don't you care about Hosty or RDU? RDU/Hosty have just as much evidence of cheating as Magicamy. You don't acknowledge that. Only difference is Hosty and RDU have refused to leave the scene entirely. RDU even fought back to become a decent player just getting 4th place in Kinguin. If Magicamy fought back she would be in RDU's position. If she doesn't want the fame then that is HER choice. Not "Penis Patrols" choice. Because its a woman though they need special protections from trolls and special protections. If women are superior to men then why do they need special treatment? Anyway who cares because she sure didn't or she would at least fight for it. Why you want to fight for someone who won't fight back is really puzzling. Its the internet man, its not like we are ever going to gather a grand jury together and try Hiram Lee in a court of law, this is literally all we have to go on is accusations and how people react to the accusations. She reacted like Ben Affleck in Gone Girl. When RDU got Hi Mom incident he didn't back down from the scene but people still mock him for Hi Mom. Hosty is all but changing his name to Ghosty because of his incident. Its insane to believe men all want women out when men get treated like crap too. That's the thing your type doesn't get, men get so much bullshit too, its not a campaign against women its a job hazard of being a online gamer. People online have a "douche entitlement" they feel like it is their God given right to mock and tear down streamers. If it gets them through another day at junior high they will do it. All men have to deal with this. Some DO quit too. Were they forced out by the patriarchy too? No they got sick of it. Maybe Magicamy got sick too. I get sick sometimes watching the community. That doesn't mean shit for sexism its just overall community of any video game is a bunch of 9 year old dickheads. Someday you're going to realize women and men are equal and men generally have it worse than women. You know we have to lift everything, women have better educations, educational system works just for them and was toned down to be "less competition focused" neutering boys, women will be the breadwinners soon, more money, Hillary will be president in 2016, women get every decision in a legal battle, all custody of children, men dig every ditch, pave every road, mine all the gold, women will be the upper management in every Fortune 500 company by 2050. Women get treated better in most times because at minimum because men want sex from them. Maybe your case? Men are usually seen as worthless until proven worthy but women are always worth something. Women are better looking and can make more money for modeling and as singers and whatnot. Its really apparent this is becoming a woman's world and so I would just relax on needing to defend women so much. 7% of your post consists of the word 'women' wtf? :D | ||
|
Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On March 02 2015 21:02 schaf wrote: 7% of your post consists of the word 'women' wtf? :D Kinda difficult to talk about women without saying the word  | ||
|
Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 02 2015 02:27 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote: The other real question is why this topic isn't locked yet, the discussion on last 10 or so pages is utterly ridiculous. Ya I stopped posting after it was clear that people weren't reading/responding to actual salient arguments but just trolling each other. Then we get a real life Men's Right's activist posting about how hard it is being a man... and I think it's time to unsubscribe from this thread. | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
On March 01 2015 23:52 Penlievskiov wrote: The real question is; Why is piegasm not banned yet? Are these pages even modded? It's a bit hard to report cause no one has that option (yet). Kadaver should be set to LiquidHearth duty  I'm here dude | ||
|
Hayl_Storm
The Shire633 Posts
Like Batman, always watching. | ||
|
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
i really dislike the guy, and the idea that he is a moral champion for women's rights after what he did with legendarylea is laughable, but he makes a few good points. | ||
|
Solmyr
Poland261 Posts
| ||
|
BarrelLolz
United States0 Posts
If this was civil court I would deem her guilty (not beyond reasonable doubt) but not if it was criminal court. The thing some people who are defending don't realize is she has already demonstrated she is a liar. Furthermore some of the evidence definitely makes her look more guilty than innocent. Yea and the fact reynad made it a sex issue is silly. This has little to do with that fact she is a woman and probably more magicamy is a dishonest lowlife who deserved what she got. The fact she was a female hearthstone player is only important because she was able to get away with duplicitous behavior. Why reynad wanted to even affiliate with this person in the first place is beyond me. And what I think the fact she decided to quit hearthstone only tends more to the accusation. If I was in fact not actually playing the game and lying that is the way I would leave in order to maintain doubt I was guilty amongst the community. | ||
|
5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
On March 03 2015 07:07 dAPhREAk wrote: reddit is a scumbag community - reynad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhzXMKwzJGg i really dislike the guy, and the idea that he is a moral champion for women's rights after what he did with legendarylea is laughable, but he makes a few good points. hey look, I think reynad made some very good points too. While I still perceive that it is more likely than not that Amy is a fraud, I am open to the very real possibility that she is genuine. It really doesn't take much to turn many opinions around - and I hope she does it if she is indeed innocent. | ||
|
Fi0na
0 Posts
On March 03 2015 17:54 5unrise wrote: hey look, I think reynad made some very good points too. While I still perceive that it is more likely than not that Amy is a fraud, I am open to the very real possibility that she is genuine. It really doesn't take much to turn many opinions around - and I hope she does it if she is indeed innocent. his good points are "hey they threw money at a girl on the internet, what did they expect". As if that would justify potential theft. And ignore the fact that the potential thief and the person distrusted by the community are one and the same. And even though I like to watch his stream from time to time to get my healthy dose of salt I can't believe that he is so double-faced. He was the one to march ahead of reddit with a torch in his hand, trying to burn RDU at the stake. He did the very same thing he now hates the community for, except that in this case there is more circumstancial evidence. Also the countless times he shittalks LegendaryLea (with or without reason, point is, he does). Oh, and I don't think most people hate MagicAmy or want to see her gone. Probably the majority just wanted to finally see her in an offline tournament and was disappointed when she once again eluded one. Which is also all the people asked for really. | ||
|
Penlievskiov
Netherlands0 Posts
Nice! and a little scary.. :o | ||
|
Braintoast
Greece1 Post
. The fact that were no proofs found doesnt mean she didnt do all those things. Second if someone sais you are fake then you try to prove them wrong, not give up. concede is never an option.... | ||
|
litlnoobs
United States8 Posts
Thankfully, though, most of society is not like a big high school where gossip and rumors can prove anything. | ||
|
Wuster
1974 Posts
On March 03 2015 11:32 BarrelLolz wrote: It's not a baseless accusation and personally the people who are suggesting that Is possible did not accuse 100% If this was civil court I would deem her guilty (not beyond reasonable doubt) but not if it was criminal court. The thing some people who are defending don't realize is she has already demonstrated she is a liar. Furthermore some of the evidence definitely makes her look more guilty than innocent. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you've never actually been involved with a civil case. A -> B -> Z doesn't work outside of this thread. On March 03 2015 20:01 Fi0na wrote: his good points are "hey they threw money at a girl on the internet, what did they expect". As if that would justify potential theft. And ignore the fact that the potential thief and the person distrusted by the community are one and the same. I still don't understand how people keep saying this makes her a thief. Celerity wasn't robbed or coerced or extorted. Neither was anyone else. Based on what I heard went down, she's not someone I would want to be involved with but that hardly makes her a thief. | ||
|
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
as for her proving that a male was not playing for her, the difficulty of proving such is enormous since you a proving a negative. moreover, even if she showed up at a live event and won, people can still question, or lost, people can still question. savjz went 0-3 in the first round of the finals; maybe a female secretly is playing on his account, maybe its monk! further, she did present evidence to the only people that matter in this instance, her team. she has no obligation to provide it to anyone else. at the end of the day, i highly question whether she is as good as originally thought and whether she actually played the games, but am forced to admit there is no actual evidence that it was anyone other than her that was playing at ESL, etc. its sad that she will no longer be playing (assuming it was her), but its even sadder the extent that people are willing to use every opportunity possible to destroy someone else's character on the internet (true or not). her former boyfriends or whatever they are and her former employer are assholes for what they did regardless of the truth of their allegations. private matters should remain private--especially with an employer (what a shady fucking organization). | ||
|
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On March 04 2015 05:10 dAPhREAk wrote: further, she did present evidence to the only people that matter in this instance, her team. she has no obligation to provide it to anyone else. Okay, now that's interesting...can you back that up with a quote or something? Because as far as I can tell from the statement the only thing TempoStorm said was "we can't find any evidence to prove this". They did not say "she has presented evidence to the contrary". They're two quite different things. If she HAS presented them with evidence then that should really be front and centre on any discussion but all I'm seeing is people yelling at each other. | ||
|
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On March 05 2015 09:40 -Celestial- wrote: Okay, now that's interesting...can you back that up with a quote or something? Because as far as I can tell from the statement the only thing TempoStorm said was "we can't find any evidence to prove this". They did not say "she has presented evidence to the contrary". They're two quite different things. If she HAS presented them with evidence then that should really be front and centre on any discussion but all I'm seeing is people yelling at each other. tempostorm said it in their press release and reynad said it in the video i posted above (iirc). she cooperated with the investigation and provided them information. | ||
|
-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On March 05 2015 09:52 dAPhREAk wrote: tempostorm said it in their press release and reynad said it in the video i posted above (iirc). she cooperated with the investigation and provided them information. Its explicitly not in the press release, which is why I was asking. I checked before writing that post. Their press release stated that they couldn't find any evidence that she had falsified her abilities by having someone else play on her account but didn't say that she'd provided any evidence to the contrary (i.e. that she is as good as she claims to be). Hence my surprise at your comment. Direct quotes: Hyerim’s performance and accomplishments as a player have been called into question due to the possibility of account boosting and win trading. ... We looked into this issue as far as we could, but were not able to produce proof that someone else was responsible for any of her high legend rank finishes. The only people who truly know the answer are Blizzard and the involved individuals. And: This finding also relates to the alleged botting allegations, because we could not figure out exactly how her account remained untouched throughout the ban waves despite its high profile and activity. Again, whether she is clear of these allegations or not is an issue that we cannot determine, It would require action to be taken on Blizzard’s end to determine the matter. Maybe there's something in the video. Guess I'll take a look. | ||
|
Wuster
1974 Posts
That's pretty standard legalese / PR speak. | ||
| ||
