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piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
March 05 2015 01:56 GMT
#261
On March 05 2015 09:40 -Celestial- wrote:
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On March 04 2015 05:10 dAPhREAk wrote:

further, she did present evidence to the only people that matter in this instance, her team. she has no obligation to provide it to anyone else.


Okay, now that's interesting...can you back that up with a quote or something? Because as far as I can tell from the statement the only thing TempoStorm said was "we can't find any evidence to prove this". They did not say "she has presented evidence to the contrary". They're two quite different things.

If she HAS presented them with evidence then that should really be front and centre on any discussion but all I'm seeing is people yelling at each other.



From the Tempo Storm statement:

We went through great lengths to cross reference travel records, personal information, and testimonies of accounts from her recent past. The personal information she has given us, combined with her employment records with Lunarch Studios, relationships with players, and the fact that she has met people face-to-face is enough to confirm her identity.


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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 05 2015 02:15 GMT
#262
On March 05 2015 10:46 -Celestial- wrote:
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On March 05 2015 09:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 05 2015 09:40 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:10 dAPhREAk wrote:

further, she did present evidence to the only people that matter in this instance, her team. she has no obligation to provide it to anyone else.


Okay, now that's interesting...can you back that up with a quote or something? Because as far as I can tell from the statement the only thing TempoStorm said was "we can't find any evidence to prove this". They did not say "she has presented evidence to the contrary". They're two quite different things.

If she HAS presented them with evidence then that should really be front and centre on any discussion but all I'm seeing is people yelling at each other.

tempostorm said it in their press release and reynad said it in the video i posted above (iirc). she cooperated with the investigation and provided them information.


Its explicitly not in the press release, which is why I was asking. I checked before writing that post. Their press release stated that they couldn't find any evidence that she had falsified her abilities by having someone else play on her account but didn't say that she'd provided any evidence to the contrary (i.e. that she is as good as she claims to be). Hence my surprise at your comment. Direct quotes:
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Hyerim’s performance and accomplishments as a player have been called into question due to the possibility of account boosting and win trading.

...

We looked into this issue as far as we could, but were not able to produce proof that someone else was responsible for any of her high legend rank finishes. The only people who truly know the answer are Blizzard and the involved individuals.


And:

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This finding also relates to the alleged botting allegations, because we could not figure out exactly how her account remained untouched throughout the ban waves despite its high profile and activity. Again, whether she is clear of these allegations or not is an issue that we cannot determine, It would require action to be taken on Blizzard’s end to determine the matter.



Maybe there's something in the video. Guess I'll take a look.

im very confused what you are looking for. it says she provided information as part of the investigation and answered all of their questions.
piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
March 05 2015 02:22 GMT
#263
On March 05 2015 10:46 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 09:52 dAPhREAk wrote:
On March 05 2015 09:40 -Celestial- wrote:
On March 04 2015 05:10 dAPhREAk wrote:

further, she did present evidence to the only people that matter in this instance, her team. she has no obligation to provide it to anyone else.


Okay, now that's interesting...can you back that up with a quote or something? Because as far as I can tell from the statement the only thing TempoStorm said was "we can't find any evidence to prove this". They did not say "she has presented evidence to the contrary". They're two quite different things.

If she HAS presented them with evidence then that should really be front and centre on any discussion but all I'm seeing is people yelling at each other.

tempostorm said it in their press release and reynad said it in the video i posted above (iirc). she cooperated with the investigation and provided them information.


Its explicitly not in the press release, which is why I was asking. I checked before writing that post. Their press release stated that they couldn't find any evidence that she had falsified her abilities by having someone else play on her account but didn't say that she'd provided any evidence to the contrary (i.e. that she is as good as she claims to be). Hence my surprise at your comment. Direct quotes:
Show nested quote +
Hyerim’s performance and accomplishments as a player have been called into question due to the possibility of account boosting and win trading.

...

We looked into this issue as far as we could, but were not able to produce proof that someone else was responsible for any of her high legend rank finishes. The only people who truly know the answer are Blizzard and the involved individuals.


And:

Show nested quote +
This finding also relates to the alleged botting allegations, because we could not figure out exactly how her account remained untouched throughout the ban waves despite its high profile and activity. Again, whether she is clear of these allegations or not is an issue that we cannot determine, It would require action to be taken on Blizzard’s end to determine the matter.



Maybe there's something in the video. Guess I'll take a look.


What evidence do you imagine there would be beyond Blizzard not taking action on these things? The double standard is just incredible. Specialist posts this outlandish, nonsensical conspiracy theory and people accept it uncritically and then place all the responsibility on MagicAmy to disprove these ridiculous claims. If some of you people applied this standard of evidence to your every day lives you'd find it incredibly difficult to function on a daily basis. You'd believe all the most ridiculous things you read and heard while demanding to see receipts and security video footage if someone claimed to have gone to the grocery store.
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