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ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
February 19 2015 02:59 GMT
#61
what's the benefit impersonating a female persona in HS? it's not like there are female-only tournaments and you have to split the winnings with your female partner-in-crime.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 19 2015 03:04 GMT
#62
On February 19 2015 11:59 ref4 wrote:
what's the benefit impersonating a female persona in HS? it's not like there are female-only tournaments and you have to split the winnings with your female partner-in-crime.

would tempostorm have taken an interest if magicamy was magicandy?
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
February 19 2015 03:10 GMT
#63
On February 19 2015 12:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 11:59 ref4 wrote:
what's the benefit impersonating a female persona in HS? it's not like there are female-only tournaments and you have to split the winnings with your female partner-in-crime.

would tempostorm have taken an interest if magicamy was magicandy?


if magicandy is really good then yeah
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
February 19 2015 03:15 GMT
#64
On February 19 2015 10:35 dAPhREAk wrote:
she also stands accused of being one of the only female players in hearthstone--a heinous but ultimately grammatically fine statement.


This made me laugh more than it should have.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 19 2015 03:23 GMT
#65
On February 19 2015 10:53 Daralii wrote:
It's always surprising how much bizarre drama a digital card game can produce. At this point I kinda want to know if the puppetmaster is Amy or Blaney.

Reminds me of this one kid who was also really good card games, winning many tournaments in the meantime. Unfortunately, the guy actually playing for him was an Egyptian dude living in some magic artifact.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 19 2015 03:25 GMT
#66
On February 19 2015 12:23 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 10:53 Daralii wrote:
It's always surprising how much bizarre drama a digital card game can produce. At this point I kinda want to know if the puppetmaster is Amy or Blaney.

Reminds me of this one kid who was also really good card games, winning many tournaments in the meantime. Unfortunately, the guy actually playing for him was an Egyptian dude living in some magic artifact.

I don't think they have reddit in that world or Im sure something would have been mentioned and a huge scandal would have followed suit
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 03:30:11
February 19 2015 03:29 GMT
#67
On February 19 2015 12:10 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 12:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 19 2015 11:59 ref4 wrote:
what's the benefit impersonating a female persona in HS? it's not like there are female-only tournaments and you have to split the winnings with your female partner-in-crime.

would tempostorm have taken an interest if magicamy was magicandy?


if magicandy is really good then yeah

we arent talking about the future. we are talking about the past. if magicamy was a man would tempostorm have picked him up immediately after esl like it did for magicamy? probably not. having the "best female player in the world" certainly has its perks compared to a dude who won a single tournament.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
February 19 2015 03:41 GMT
#68
On February 19 2015 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 12:10 ref4 wrote:
On February 19 2015 12:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
On February 19 2015 11:59 ref4 wrote:
what's the benefit impersonating a female persona in HS? it's not like there are female-only tournaments and you have to split the winnings with your female partner-in-crime.

would tempostorm have taken an interest if magicamy was magicandy?


if magicandy is really good then yeah

we arent talking about the future. we are talking about the past. if magicamy was a man would tempostorm have picked him up immediately after esl like it did for magicamy? probably not. having the "best female player in the world" certainly has its perks compared to a dude who won a single tournament.


that's not saying much when there are only like 3-5 female HS competitive players (actually might even be less rofl) plus playing HS as female vs. male doesn't put you at an innate disadvantage unlike some real world sports.
narucy
Profile Joined January 2012
Japan4 Posts
February 19 2015 04:33 GMT
#69
I don't care. She does not Twitch streaming that meaning probably She is not great person or She had a problem. Problem fix first.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
February 19 2015 05:20 GMT
#70
Having not read this until quite a bit after I watched the scandal break, I got quite a chuckle from the post's wording. I'm extra amused by this, as I was actually (a small) part of z33kTV when the whole Vera Lynn thing exploded (I was unaware of it until just before Rifkin went public with it; I was one of the people who formed BaseTrade with him).

I just hope there isn't too much backlash on Tempo Storm itself, as Reynad may have been just as hoodwinked as the rest of us.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 19 2015 05:50 GMT
#71
On February 19 2015 14:20 Gary Oak wrote:
Having not read this until quite a bit after I watched the scandal break, I got quite a chuckle from the post's wording. I'm extra amused by this, as I was actually (a small) part of z33kTV when the whole Vera Lynn thing exploded (I was unaware of it until just before Rifkin went public with it; I was one of the people who formed BaseTrade with him).

I just hope there isn't too much backlash on Tempo Storm itself, as Reynad may have been just as hoodwinked as the rest of us.

Reynad will probably get some deserved flak for not "knowing" who he signed but he is definiatley a fraud victim if these allegations are true so he and tempo storm should come out of this ok, and alot smarter
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
February 19 2015 06:07 GMT
#72
Regardless of whether the allegations are true or not, it's a shame that this episode will probably make the Hearthstone/overall-esports community even more cynical about female pros...
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
February 19 2015 07:33 GMT
#73
This is so bizarre.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 19 2015 07:41 GMT
#74
This is fucking hilarious.

I remember when this site jumped on the opportunity to interview a KOREAN GIRL GAMER. Seems like this guy knew which strings to pull just right...
litlnoobs
Profile Joined January 2013
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 09:01:06
February 19 2015 08:40 GMT
#75
On February 19 2015 07:41 gkts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 06:49 litlnoobs wrote:
Maybe Chakki should try learning how to play Hearthstone instead of "investigating" female games because he's butthurt.


That escalated quickly, Sir Whiteknight,


Whether MagicAmy is guilty of not, this "investigation" never would have happened if she was a male. Case in point, there's hundreds of male streamers and players and not once has another streamer sought to "investigate" them.

I don't know why I even try though; the gamer "community" continues to be fucking terrible when it comes to females, and I am pretty much at my wits end and continually embarrassed to be a part of it.


edit: because the neckbeards will be out in full force today:
If MagicAmy is actually guilt, then that's terrible and of course it's important that people know that. However, that investigation is something left to her teammates and team, not some random dude (from another team) who decides to "investigate" because she's a girl and has better results than himself. In addition, Chakki or whoever shouldn't be posting such defaming information without first consulting the team and/or the player, because now, regardless of the outcome, MagicAmy will also be guilty via community prosecution.

The whole situation is amateurish
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 09:11:13
February 19 2015 09:03 GMT
#76
On February 19 2015 17:40 litlnoobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 07:41 gkts wrote:
On February 19 2015 06:49 litlnoobs wrote:
Maybe Chakki should try learning how to play Hearthstone instead of "investigating" female games because he's butthurt.


That escalated quickly, Sir Whiteknight,


Whether MagicAmy is guilty of not, this "investigation" never would have happened if she was a male. Case in point, there's hundreds of male streamers and players and not once has another streamer sought to "investigate" them.

I don't know why I even try though; the gamer "community" continues to be fucking terrible when it comes to females, and I am pretty much at my wits end and continually embarrassed to be a part of it.

hotsy got the community treatment. hotsy is a guy. The evidence against him is honestly quiet weak and he was dealt with within hours.

If there was reason to suggest that some male streamers were using someone else to play there games I guarantee we'd burn them at the stake much quicker. But so far there isn't. There is however evidence that suggests Magicamy is a player of false pretenses.

edit: I find Amy's silence on the matter odd too since an allegation like this is super easy to disprove. Maybe Tempo Storm told her to stay shush and shes just following orders but in my own and possibly wrong opinion this seems like the kind of thing that you should just disprove as quickly as possible. A simple youtube video of her playing a few games on the pc with a camera pointed at the set up would probably do it. 10 minutes of recording
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Solmyr
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland261 Posts
February 19 2015 09:15 GMT
#77
It is funny becouse whoever that person is he deserves a spot in Tempo Storm and ESL finals. It's kinda strange what was the goal of this gender transformation.
I have read that Magicamy was a pro in BW scene and she was close to Tossgirl skill levels. Am I right ? If not than who is in that picture with the Tyrant ?

Poll: Would you like Tossgirl as a MagicCandy in TS rooster?

3. That would save Reynad and with that whole esports (3)
 
43%

1. YES (2)
 
29%

2. No (2)
 
29%

7 total votes

Your vote: Would you like Tossgirl as a MagicCandy in TS rooster?

(Vote): 1. YES
(Vote): 2. No
(Vote): 3. That would save Reynad and with that whole esports


TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
February 19 2015 09:16 GMT
#78
On February 19 2015 18:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 17:40 litlnoobs wrote:
On February 19 2015 07:41 gkts wrote:
On February 19 2015 06:49 litlnoobs wrote:
Maybe Chakki should try learning how to play Hearthstone instead of "investigating" female games because he's butthurt.


That escalated quickly, Sir Whiteknight,


Whether MagicAmy is guilty of not, this "investigation" never would have happened if she was a male. Case in point, there's hundreds of male streamers and players and not once has another streamer sought to "investigate" them.

I don't know why I even try though; the gamer "community" continues to be fucking terrible when it comes to females, and I am pretty much at my wits end and continually embarrassed to be a part of it.

hotsy got the community treatment. hotsy is a guy. The evidence against him is honestly quiet weak and he was dealt with within hours.

If there was reason to suggest that some male streamers were using someone else to play there games I guarantee we'd burn them at the stake much quicker. But so far there isn't. There is however evidence that suggests Magicamy is a player of false pretenses.

edit: I find Amy's silence on the matter odd too since an allegation like this is super easy to disprove. Maybe Tempo Storm told her to stay shush and shes just following orders but in my own and possibly wrong opinion this seems like the kind of thing that you should just disprove as quickly as possible. A simple youtube video of her playing a few games on the pc with a camera pointed at the set up would probably do it. 10 minutes of recording

that sounds like the dumbest idea ever. MagicAmy doesnt need to react immediately because it doesnt do anything, they need to sift through evidence and backup claims, words wont change the situation. The video idea is even worse, we've already seen footage of her on ESL live, why would it be better proof of her identity on a pre-recorded video sent to youtube, that doesnt even make sense.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
February 19 2015 09:18 GMT
#79
On February 19 2015 18:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
A simple youtube video of her playing a few games on the pc with a camera pointed at the set up would probably do it. 10 minutes of recording

If there's actually 2 people behind "magicamy" with one being a real korean girl... how this will prove anything?
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
February 19 2015 09:21 GMT
#80
On February 19 2015 18:16 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2015 18:03 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On February 19 2015 17:40 litlnoobs wrote:
On February 19 2015 07:41 gkts wrote:
On February 19 2015 06:49 litlnoobs wrote:
Maybe Chakki should try learning how to play Hearthstone instead of "investigating" female games because he's butthurt.


That escalated quickly, Sir Whiteknight,


Whether MagicAmy is guilty of not, this "investigation" never would have happened if she was a male. Case in point, there's hundreds of male streamers and players and not once has another streamer sought to "investigate" them.

I don't know why I even try though; the gamer "community" continues to be fucking terrible when it comes to females, and I am pretty much at my wits end and continually embarrassed to be a part of it.

hotsy got the community treatment. hotsy is a guy. The evidence against him is honestly quiet weak and he was dealt with within hours.

If there was reason to suggest that some male streamers were using someone else to play there games I guarantee we'd burn them at the stake much quicker. But so far there isn't. There is however evidence that suggests Magicamy is a player of false pretenses.

edit: I find Amy's silence on the matter odd too since an allegation like this is super easy to disprove. Maybe Tempo Storm told her to stay shush and shes just following orders but in my own and possibly wrong opinion this seems like the kind of thing that you should just disprove as quickly as possible. A simple youtube video of her playing a few games on the pc with a camera pointed at the set up would probably do it. 10 minutes of recording

that sounds like the dumbest idea ever. MagicAmy doesnt need to react immediately because it doesnt do anything, they need to sift through evidence and backup claims, words wont change the situation. The video idea is even worse, we've already seen footage of her on ESL live, why would it be better proof of her identity on a pre-recorded video sent to youtube, that doesnt even make sense.

Not a video of her screen, that does nothing. No one is doubting Magicamy is a women. What they are doubting is who is playing the games. The camera would be pointed at her PC set up so you can see her, the game and that shes doing the actions.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
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