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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
February 13 2014 13:21 GMT
#1301
I find those kinds of people whatever I'm playing :D
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barbosaalr
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil0 Posts
February 13 2014 14:55 GMT
#1302
Hello, I'm trying to understand if my problem is with decks I'm choosing or in my playstyle... Could you please critisize my choices? I want to know if with this deck it's possible to go better than I went!

I was using Arena Value to track and help me: Paladin Deck

It was my best result until now: + Show Spoiler +
7-3


Any help will be good!

* English is not my native language, so sorry about it!

Thanks in advance!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 13 2014 15:21 GMT
#1303
On February 13 2014 23:55 barbosaalr wrote:
Hello, I'm trying to understand if my problem is with decks I'm choosing or in my playstyle... Could you please critisize my choices? I want to know if with this deck it's possible to go better than I went!

I was using Arena Value to track and help me: Paladin Deck

It was my best result until now: + Show Spoiler +
7-3


Any help will be good!

* English is not my native language, so sorry about it!

Thanks in advance!


(FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.)

Pick 1 I consider Equality the strongest Paladin class rare besides Aldor Peacekeeper, I don't think Sunfury Protector is particularly close as it usually ends up being a River Crocolisk with minor upside. Paladin has many combos with Equality including Consecration, Avenging Wrath, and the hero ability. Maybe around pick 20 if your deck is all fat and you need 2-drops you could pick the Protector, but otherwise you should take the card with higher upside.

Pick 4 I think I like Archmage more than the 1/7. Paladin decks end up with a ton of 4-drops, and at least Archmage works with Consecration which is something.

Pick 16 you needed to take Bloodfen Raptor over the Ogre. You had only a single 2-drop at this point, and that's just not acceptable this late into the draft. Ogre is a better card, but you have to sacrifice a little quality sometimes to fix your curve.

Pick 17 I think Priestess is straight up awful; Taunt is a better ability than gaining 4 life, and it's on a cheaper creature, making the Bodyguard almost strictly better (though still not great).

Pick 26 this time I would've taken the Ogre. Acolyte doesn't really do anything in your deck. Even though this is the opposite of what I was saying before, in this case we're talking about a 1/3 for 3 which really provides no board presence at all, so it doesn't really help you curve out despite its low cost.

Pick 30 seems kind of insane. I guess you identified your lack of 2-drops, but Crazed Alchemist is more of a spell than 2-drop, since a 2/2 on turn 2 is very mediocre. Argent Commander is hard to pass up, but if you were worried about your curve (which is reasonable), I would've gone for the Imp Master instead.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 15:51:29
February 13 2014 15:33 GMT
#1304
reached 5-3 with a Mage draft that had 2 Mirror Images, 2 Frost Bolts, 1 Blizzard, 1 Polymorph, 1 Counterspell, 1-2 Cone of Colds, 1 Water Elemental, and 1 Mirror Entity

Counterspell won me at least 2 games

Mirror Entity didn't do much

was pretty annoying having to try to stall out the game and hope the opponent didn't play a Taunt while hoping I had enough damage to kill the opponent with creatures because I didn't have much late game other than stalling out the game
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barbosaalr
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil0 Posts
February 13 2014 15:44 GMT
#1305
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
(FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.)

Pick 1 I consider Equality the strongest Paladin class rare besides Aldor Peacekeeper, I don't think Sunfury Protector is particularly close as it usually ends up being a River Crocolisk with minor upside. Paladin has many combos with Equality including Consecration, Avenging Wrath, and the hero ability. Maybe around pick 20 if your deck is all fat and you need 2-drops you could pick the Protector, but otherwise you should take the card with higher upside.

Pick 4 I think I like Archmage more than the 1/7. Paladin decks end up with a ton of 4-drops, and at least Archmage works with Consecration which is something.

Pick 16 you needed to take Bloodfen Raptor over the Ogre. You had only a single 2-drop at this point, and that's just not acceptable this late into the draft. Ogre is a better card, but you have to sacrifice a little quality sometimes to fix your curve.

Pick 17 I think Priestess is straight up awful; Taunt is a better ability than gaining 4 life, and it's on a cheaper creature, making the Bodyguard almost strictly better (though still not great).

Pick 26 this time I would've taken the Ogre. Acolyte doesn't really do anything in your deck. Even though this is the opposite of what I was saying before, in this case we're talking about a 1/3 for 3 which really provides no board presence at all, so it doesn't really help you curve out despite its low cost.

Pick 30 seems kind of insane. I guess you identified your lack of 2-drops, but Crazed Alchemist is more of a spell than 2-drop, since a 2/2 on turn 2 is very mediocre. Argent Commander is hard to pass up, but if you were worried about your curve (which is reasonable), I would've gone for the Imp Master instead.


Hum... thank you very much... very good points to correct on my picks!
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 16:21:59
February 13 2014 16:17 GMT
#1306
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please.

EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#1307
On February 14 2014 01:17 Hairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please.

EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though.


Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-13 17:59:06
February 13 2014 17:54 GMT
#1308
On February 14 2014 02:27 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:17 Hairy wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please.

EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though.


Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not.

How do you know your average is "slightly below that", and that paladin carries your highest winrate, if you don't track any of your stats? You might be surprised at what you find (eg my best arena class is NOT the class I feel most comfortable playing). Sharing your background so readers can judge the reliability of your advice is a wonderful thing to do... but the background you're providing is, by your own admission, guesswork. I've seen some of your posts around TL and it's clear from your advice given that you're a good player, but stop the guessing!

I think most people would agree that Trump is an exceptional arena player.... what do you think his average wins might be? 10 wins? 11 wins, perhaps? You may be surprised to see that his stats indicate he actually averages 7.3 wins overall, and reaches 12 wins 12% of the time.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
February 13 2014 20:22 GMT
#1309
Just got my 3rd 12 win already on my NA account within 16 arena runs already

The draft (I made screenshots when I was 9-2):
[image loading]
[image loading]

Who knew that 5 hex is actually good enough lmao. I was worried though since I only had 2 3 drops.

The rewards:
[image loading]

415 gold / golden perdition's blade and a pack
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
February 14 2014 02:09 GMT
#1310
[image loading]
I'd like to think my opponent was at least amused
DonGrisu
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria697 Posts
February 14 2014 02:35 GMT
#1311
Finally... My First 12 win... 12-1 with mage BUT... No fireball, 1 hex but 2 flamestrikes... Oh so good And this to my Birthday x)
Fnatic 4 Ever...!!
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
February 14 2014 02:58 GMT
#1312
On February 14 2014 02:54 Hairy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 02:27 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 14 2014 01:17 Hairy wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please.

EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though.


Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not.
I think most people would agree that Trump is an exceptional arena player.... what do you think his average wins might be? 10 wins? 11 wins, perhaps? You may be surprised to see that his stats indicate he actually averages 7.3 wins overall, and reaches 12 wins 12% of the time.
Keep preaching the truth man!
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 14 2014 03:50 GMT
#1313
On February 14 2014 11:58 calgar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 02:54 Hairy wrote:
On February 14 2014 02:27 Cel.erity wrote:
On February 14 2014 01:17 Hairy wrote:
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:
I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.

Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please.

EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though.


Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not.
I think most people would agree that Trump is an exceptional arena player.... what do you think his average wins might be? 10 wins? 11 wins, perhaps? You may be surprised to see that his stats indicate he actually averages 7.3 wins overall, and reaches 12 wins 12% of the time.
Keep preaching the truth man!


As fun as it is to be called a liar by people who have no idea about my history and believe Trump to be the best arena player in the world, I will conclude my side of this by pointing out that even Trump averages a 78% winrate on his best classes, which equates to ~10-11 wins per arena. Upper 70%'s is considered the high end of arena winrates.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 14 2014 05:01 GMT
#1314
Made it to 6-3 on a paladin deck with no truesilver, no consecrate and 1 of every other decent common/rare paladin card. Would've been 7, but the other guy topdecked deathwing. Despite being up board control(before deathwing) and with 2 cards in hand, and pretty much full health to like 15, deathwing ended the game. Had a hammer, but couldn't draw into 1 of two cards that would've allowed me to finish deathwing off(peacekeeper or sunwalker, had kings in hand).
Porouscloud - NA LoL
JShark
Profile Joined January 2013
Korea (South)15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 07:14:04
February 14 2014 07:11 GMT
#1315
Went 12-2 with a Rogue.

Was at 5-0 when I DC'd with a clear advantage.

Went from 5-1 to 11-1 (would be 12-0 if I hadn't DC'd)...then lost to a sick sick frostbolt pyro everything Mage deck. 11-2, then beat another Rogue.

Awful rewards...230 gold. 230 GOLD WITH 12 WINS -.- 2 packs 25 dust and a golden common. A COMMON. But I got Tirion out of one of the packs so it's ok. 5 legendaries now.

Need about 16 more cards before I complete the deck list with 2 of every common/rare (ignoring epics and legendaries), no real money spent, in 6 weeks.

Gone 12-X in 3 out of the last 11 arena sessions with Warrior/Shaman/Rogue.
JShark
Profile Joined January 2013
Korea (South)15 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 07:39:46
February 14 2014 07:37 GMT
#1316
So this is what a Mages arena hand looks like.

Maybe I should play arena as a Mage more often...

[image loading]

[image loading]
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 10:28:53
February 14 2014 10:28 GMT
#1317
Haha i just had the funniest moment in arena

My opponent has the Auchenai Soulpriest at 3-1 and i have Sunwalker at 4-4 without divine shield.

His plan is to Holy Nova + deal 2 damage with his Hero Power.

Ends up killing his own Auchenai Soulpriest with Holy Nova and heals my Sunwalker. I proceed to win the game.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 14:22:00
February 14 2014 14:20 GMT
#1318
Well, heres my latest run
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Expected 5-6 wins, finished with 9. Got some really freaking cold decks in the end (pretty much mulliganing 2 highmanes for a kodo and a explosive shot against people who were filled with 2-3 drops and couldn't ever pick up my tempo)

Reward was 265 gold, a common, and a pack which had sylvannas (thinking about disenchanting since I already have it).
the throws never bothered me anyway
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 14 2014 16:32 GMT
#1319
I did my second arena run today, I read antigrav1ty tier list and managed to go 6 3 as shaman. I lost twice to pallies and once to hunter. I made huge mistakes in 2 of my losses, wasting my earthshock on knife juggler he then proceeded to shield and give him the buff to draw cards. I could never get anything out while he kept drawing and drawing every turn. Against the hunter I should have trade my imps against his dogs instead of using lightning storm as the second wave of hounds killed me, it was really stupid from me as I had basicly game won if not for this mistake. Last loss was relatively close but he had 6 avenging wrath and he got some humility's combos twice. Really nice run as it was fun and more exciting than ranked games.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
spalding
Profile Joined August 2010
95 Posts
February 14 2014 16:48 GMT
#1320
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote:


(FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.)


You either have a very selective memory or a small sample size. I'll bet whatever you want that you won't average 25%+ over your next 50 runs if you want.
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