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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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barbosaalr
Brazil0 Posts
I was using Arena Value to track and help me: Paladin Deck It was my best result until now: + Show Spoiler + 7-3 Any help will be good! * English is not my native language, so sorry about it! ![]() Thanks in advance! | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On February 13 2014 23:55 barbosaalr wrote: Hello, I'm trying to understand if my problem is with decks I'm choosing or in my playstyle... Could you please critisize my choices? I want to know if with this deck it's possible to go better than I went! I was using Arena Value to track and help me: Paladin Deck It was my best result until now: + Show Spoiler + 7-3 Any help will be good! * English is not my native language, so sorry about it! ![]() Thanks in advance! (FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.) Pick 1 I consider Equality the strongest Paladin class rare besides Aldor Peacekeeper, I don't think Sunfury Protector is particularly close as it usually ends up being a River Crocolisk with minor upside. Paladin has many combos with Equality including Consecration, Avenging Wrath, and the hero ability. Maybe around pick 20 if your deck is all fat and you need 2-drops you could pick the Protector, but otherwise you should take the card with higher upside. Pick 4 I think I like Archmage more than the 1/7. Paladin decks end up with a ton of 4-drops, and at least Archmage works with Consecration which is something. Pick 16 you needed to take Bloodfen Raptor over the Ogre. You had only a single 2-drop at this point, and that's just not acceptable this late into the draft. Ogre is a better card, but you have to sacrifice a little quality sometimes to fix your curve. Pick 17 I think Priestess is straight up awful; Taunt is a better ability than gaining 4 life, and it's on a cheaper creature, making the Bodyguard almost strictly better (though still not great). Pick 26 this time I would've taken the Ogre. Acolyte doesn't really do anything in your deck. Even though this is the opposite of what I was saying before, in this case we're talking about a 1/3 for 3 which really provides no board presence at all, so it doesn't really help you curve out despite its low cost. Pick 30 seems kind of insane. I guess you identified your lack of 2-drops, but Crazed Alchemist is more of a spell than 2-drop, since a 2/2 on turn 2 is very mediocre. Argent Commander is hard to pass up, but if you were worried about your curve (which is reasonable), I would've gone for the Imp Master instead. | ||
udgnim
United States8024 Posts
Counterspell won me at least 2 games Mirror Entity didn't do much was pretty annoying having to try to stall out the game and hope the opponent didn't play a Taunt while hoping I had enough damage to kill the opponent with creatures because I didn't have much late game other than stalling out the game | ||
barbosaalr
Brazil0 Posts
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote: (FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.) Pick 1 I consider Equality the strongest Paladin class rare besides Aldor Peacekeeper, I don't think Sunfury Protector is particularly close as it usually ends up being a River Crocolisk with minor upside. Paladin has many combos with Equality including Consecration, Avenging Wrath, and the hero ability. Maybe around pick 20 if your deck is all fat and you need 2-drops you could pick the Protector, but otherwise you should take the card with higher upside. Pick 4 I think I like Archmage more than the 1/7. Paladin decks end up with a ton of 4-drops, and at least Archmage works with Consecration which is something. Pick 16 you needed to take Bloodfen Raptor over the Ogre. You had only a single 2-drop at this point, and that's just not acceptable this late into the draft. Ogre is a better card, but you have to sacrifice a little quality sometimes to fix your curve. Pick 17 I think Priestess is straight up awful; Taunt is a better ability than gaining 4 life, and it's on a cheaper creature, making the Bodyguard almost strictly better (though still not great). Pick 26 this time I would've taken the Ogre. Acolyte doesn't really do anything in your deck. Even though this is the opposite of what I was saying before, in this case we're talking about a 1/3 for 3 which really provides no board presence at all, so it doesn't really help you curve out despite its low cost. Pick 30 seems kind of insane. I guess you identified your lack of 2-drops, but Crazed Alchemist is more of a spell than 2-drop, since a 2/2 on turn 2 is very mediocre. Argent Commander is hard to pass up, but if you were worried about your curve (which is reasonable), I would've gone for the Imp Master instead. Hum... thank you very much... very good points to correct on my picks! | ||
Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote: I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth. Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please. EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though. | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On February 14 2014 01:17 Hairy wrote: Maybe you should start tracking your winrate, because claiming 12 wins 25-30% of the time is akin to claiming you're the best arena player of all time ever. Let's get the wet finger out of the air, please. EDIT: the advice given was pretty solid though. Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not. | ||
Hairy
United Kingdom1169 Posts
On February 14 2014 02:27 Cel.erity wrote: Not really. The best players average about 10 wins per arena, and my average is slightly below that. Also Paladin carries my highest winrate. Anyway, it seems fairly standard practice to share my background with a person who may not know me so that they can decide whether my advice is worth listening to or not. How do you know your average is "slightly below that", and that paladin carries your highest winrate, if you don't track any of your stats? You might be surprised at what you find (eg my best arena class is NOT the class I feel most comfortable playing). Sharing your background so readers can judge the reliability of your advice is a wonderful thing to do... but the background you're providing is, by your own admission, guesswork. I've seen some of your posts around TL and it's clear from your advice given that you're a good player, but stop the guessing! ![]() I think most people would agree that Trump is an exceptional arena player.... what do you think his average wins might be? 10 wins? 11 wins, perhaps? You may be surprised to see that his stats indicate he actually averages 7.3 wins overall, and reaches 12 wins 12% of the time. | ||
shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
![]() The draft (I made screenshots when I was 9-2): ![]() ![]() Who knew that 5 hex is actually good enough lmao. I was worried though since I only had 2 3 drops. The rewards: ![]() 415 gold / golden perdition's blade and a pack ![]() | ||
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DonGrisu
Austria697 Posts
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calgar
United States1277 Posts
On February 14 2014 02:54 Hairy wrote: Keep preaching the truth man!I think most people would agree that Trump is an exceptional arena player.... what do you think his average wins might be? 10 wins? 11 wins, perhaps? You may be surprised to see that his stats indicate he actually averages 7.3 wins overall, and reaches 12 wins 12% of the time. | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
As fun as it is to be called a liar by people who have no idea about my history and believe Trump to be the best arena player in the world, I will conclude my side of this by pointing out that even Trump averages a 78% winrate on his best classes, which equates to ~10-11 wins per arena. Upper 70%'s is considered the high end of arena winrates. | ||
Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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JShark
Korea (South)15 Posts
Was at 5-0 when I DC'd with a clear advantage. Went from 5-1 to 11-1 (would be 12-0 if I hadn't DC'd)...then lost to a sick sick frostbolt pyro everything Mage deck. 11-2, then beat another Rogue. Awful rewards...230 gold. 230 GOLD WITH 12 WINS -.- 2 packs 25 dust and a golden common. A COMMON. But I got Tirion out of one of the packs so it's ok. 5 legendaries now. ![]() Need about 16 more cards before I complete the deck list with 2 of every common/rare (ignoring epics and legendaries), no real money spent, in 6 weeks. Gone 12-X in 3 out of the last 11 arena sessions with Warrior/Shaman/Rogue. | ||
JShark
Korea (South)15 Posts
Maybe I should play arena as a Mage more often... ![]() ![]() | ||
SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
![]() My opponent has the Auchenai Soulpriest at 3-1 and i have Sunwalker at 4-4 without divine shield. His plan is to Holy Nova + deal 2 damage with his Hero Power. Ends up killing his own Auchenai Soulpriest with Holy Nova and heals my Sunwalker. I proceed to win the game. ![]() | ||
peidongyang
Canada2084 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![]() Expected 5-6 wins, finished with 9. Got some really freaking cold decks in the end (pretty much mulliganing 2 highmanes for a kodo and a explosive shot against people who were filled with 2-3 drops and couldn't ever pick up my tempo) Reward was 265 gold, a common, and a pack which had sylvannas (thinking about disenchanting since I already have it). | ||
nojok
France15845 Posts
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spalding
95 Posts
On February 14 2014 00:21 Cel.erity wrote: (FYI I play Paladin almost every time I have the option in Arena; I don't track my winrate, but I manage 12 wins ~25-30% of the time, so take that for what it's worth.) You either have a very selective memory or a small sample size. I'll bet whatever you want that you won't average 25%+ over your next 50 runs if you want. | ||
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