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Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 15:58:57
December 29 2013 15:45 GMT
#701
On December 29 2013 18:06 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 17:37 Hairy wrote:
Had my first 12 wins! Warrior deck. I was at 11-1, and then the next game the game bugged and froze so I couldn't play any cards or perform any actions (apart from emotes). Had to just terminate the game and accept the loss, despite being in a strong position at the 4 mana mark. I would have been gutted if I had lost the next one too and missed the 12.


Mind sharing deck list if you got it saved?

Warrior is a bit of a mess for me. Not sure what cards are good and how to play it in general...

My best so far is Mage with 11 wins, and that didn't feel good since I had a , and probably half of my wins were with it.

Sorry, I didn't save it. I used to save every arena deck, but then I got lazy. :/

The deck wasn't anything magical; I had 2x Fiery War Axe, plenty of 2's (and a the 1-drop worgen) and then decreasing numbers of 3's, 4's etc - so the curve looked like a triangle sloping down from 2. Plenty of early stuff meant I got board control, and I had lots of card draw so I rarely ran out of steam. It's hard to give very specific advice, so here's some vague stuff I've learned:

  • Draft so you either never have a weak start (lots of early minions), or so that you can safely recover from a weak start (AOE, removal, defensive tools)
  • You want to draft (and mulligan) so you have good plays on turn 2, 3, 4. Missing a turn at the start because you have nothing to play is pretty disastrous. You often see players at the 0-3 win point skipping a turn, and that is WHY they're at the 0-3 win mark.
  • Don't pay too much attention to curve for the first ~15 cards - just pick the very best one presented to you. After that, pay a little more attention to curve, but don't take terrible cards over good cards because you "should" for the curve.
  • The amount of card draw you get dictates your drafting; if you get lots of card draw, you can skew to playing a faster, more aggressive deck. If you get little/no card draw, you should pick higher-cost minions - otherwise you'll be quickly top-decking weak cards.
  • If in doubt, pick minions over spell cards. You usually want plenty of minions, with a splash of spells - not the other way around.
  • Don't draft too many weapons. On average, you're going to lose ~2-3 health per weapon attack - if you draft dozens of weapons, you'll actually burn your own health down quite badly. The exception is the Truesilver Champion, which is just amazing due to the heal.


EDIT: oh, and make sure to draft for the deck you have, not the deck you would like to have; eg don't go taking a Gadgetzan Auctioneer half way through a draft if you haven't drafted any spells yet, because you might not get any! You don't get to decide beforehand what the final deck will be like, you just have to see where the draft takes you.
Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 29 2013 16:21 GMT
#702
Check this out guys:

Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Maand
Profile Joined April 2010
326 Posts
December 29 2013 16:27 GMT
#703
Was at 8/2 versus mage, potential last game. As a shaman I expected an instant loss. Few first turns were back and forth. Then I could do favorable trades with healing totem on board, winning! But then Defender of Argus bugged out on me two times disallowing me to trade at all...

I really would like to see this bug fixed before open beta. It lost me quite a few games both in arena and constructed.
RoyaSalute
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil33 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 17:04:00
December 29 2013 16:59 GMT
#704
Yeah, i like the idea of 5 cards as well...

I did my first 12-0 run :D... and with shaman (I usually dont pick mage, I know it is by far the best class, but I have more fun playing others on arena).

Here is the deck... I had pretty solid picks

[image loading]

just one molten giant is not on the picture
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 29 2013 17:58 GMT
#705
Played a Warlock for the first time in arena. Got 4 Blood Imps (along with a Sense Demons, 2 Felguards, Succubus, Flame Imp, and Dread Infernal).

Went 6-3. My previous best was a 3-3, so that went decently well.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 23:13:56
December 29 2013 23:03 GMT
#706
This deck is so bad it's good. I had lethal with the board and soulfire, but I had 2 mad bombers in hand so I played them anyway and they lethalled for me hahaha.

(+1 Stranglethorn Tiger, Frost Elemental, Priestess of Elune)
[image loading]

4-3 final, which far exceeded my expectations for probably the worst deck I ever drafted.
3.
virtu333
Profile Joined December 2013
United States56 Posts
December 29 2013 23:22 GMT
#707
On December 30 2013 01:59 RoyaSalute wrote:
Yeah, i like the idea of 5 cards as well...

I did my first 12-0 run :D... and with shaman (I usually dont pick mage, I know it is by far the best class, but I have more fun playing others on arena).

Here is the deck... I had pretty solid picks

[image loading]

just one molten giant is not on the picture


The spells make it look like a constructed deck o_O
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 30 2013 00:11 GMT
#708
On December 30 2013 08:22 virtu333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 01:59 RoyaSalute wrote:
Yeah, i like the idea of 5 cards as well...

I did my first 12-0 run :D... and with shaman (I usually dont pick mage, I know it is by far the best class, but I have more fun playing others on arena).

Here is the deck... I had pretty solid picks

[image loading]

just one molten giant is not on the picture


The spells make it look like a constructed deck o_O


Whenever I face Shaman decks on 10+ win they have the tendency to look constructed until the 3rd hex or fire elemental hits me.
Just had Brawl + Silvanas, which is an epic combination Imo. Silvanas won 9 out of 10 brawls though. While I had 5 weapons that never wanted to show up, even when I got down to 6 Cards left ...
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 01:23:28
December 30 2013 00:28 GMT
#709
OK lets see how far 4 holy nova and 3 shadow word: Pains can carry the otherwise lackluster priest draft.
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[image loading]

E: Also I could have picked up 2 more mind controls but I thought 1 was enough.

E2: 3-3 I had the most bullshit draws on each of my losses. first loss I had all 3 nova in my hand by turn 4, second loss I had litterally nothing to play until turn 5 and last loss nothing till turn 4.

My wins though were the most 1 sided fights ever. I had one game were the northshire cleric drew me 7 cards.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
RoyaSalute
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil33 Posts
December 30 2013 02:09 GMT
#710
On December 30 2013 08:22 virtu333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 01:59 RoyaSalute wrote:
Yeah, i like the idea of 5 cards as well...

I did my first 12-0 run :D... and with shaman (I usually dont pick mage, I know it is by far the best class, but I have more fun playing others on arena).

Here is the deck... I had pretty solid picks

[image loading]

just one molten giant is not on the picture


The spells make it look like a constructed deck o_O


yeah, i had a hard time only vs a mage and one paladin... of course having no bad picks on arena helped a lot
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 05:08:46
December 30 2013 05:07 GMT
#711
First pick: Grommash
.... 5-6 picks later: Grommash again, didnt pick (not sure if thats a mistake but having 2x 8 mana seemed a lot and I forget what the other pick was but pretty premium)
...... few picks later Sylvanas
..... final pick: Grommash, Malygos, Nat Pagle

Wtf
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 05:34:08
December 30 2013 05:33 GMT
#712
Had another druid run. Went 0-2, won my way to 4/2 before finally being put down by a mage at 4/3. Had a decent deck, although a little light on the card draw.

I think Druid is gonna be my main arena class, and Mage/pally main constructed.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
December 30 2013 08:51 GMT
#713
On December 30 2013 14:07 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
First pick: Grommash
.... 5-6 picks later: Grommash again, didnt pick (not sure if thats a mistake but having 2x 8 mana seemed a lot and I forget what the other pick was but pretty premium)
...... few picks later Sylvanas
..... final pick: Grommash, Malygos, Nat Pagle

Wtf

Well Jinro u should go many wins with that.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1015 Posts
December 30 2013 12:58 GMT
#714
Finally got a 12-2 arena win...I've been trying to make it work with warlocks for ages....but kept running out of steam. Taking Acritter's wise advice in this thread really helped: don't use any AoE unless you are building the deck around it. Before I used to take hellfires and stuff which didn't really work. There was one hilarious game where they played an Agent Squire, I played one, they hit me with theirs, and then I coined a Blood Knight who became 9-9 on turn two.

I got 480 gold (+the booster) as a prize. No shiny gold cards...might have to use some of those winnings to buy packs in the hope of getting my first legendary...

In general I've got to a pretty solid place with arenas...not sure if I can truly go infinite, but with the daily quests I can't see myself running out of gold soon unless I get the time to play for 3 days straight.


Decklist
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Soulfire (2)
Mortal Coil
Agent Squire
Blood Imp
Flame Imp (2)
Void Walker
Demon Fire
Amani Beserker
Faerie Dragon
Murloc Tidehunter
Novice Engineer
Succubus
Acolyte of Pain
Blood Knight
Harvest Golem
Jungle Panther (2)
Questing Adventurer (2)
Shattered Sun Cleric
Thrallmar Farseer
Chillwind Yeti (2)
Cultmaster
Dragonling Mechanic
Spellbreaker
Azure Drake
Silver Hand Knight
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:44:58
December 30 2013 13:43 GMT
#715
@Tal: Grats on the first 12-x win! Feels good doesn't it

Just had a 11-3 arena run as a Druid:

[image loading]
not shown: 2x Innervate, 1 Worgen Infiltrator

I didn't think I'd get to 11 wins, but those 2 Ancient of Wars really did some work. Had no chance in the games I lost though. One game was lost because I got behind after my opponent killed my 2 drop with his Mad Bomber. The other game my opponent had an awnser for everything, including 2x SI7: Agents.

Also got my first legendary out of the pack I won. It was a... Baron Geddon. Oh well, not exactly the best legendary but it's a start.

EDIT: best game was versus a mage, where he/she was forced to use their double Pyroblast on my double Acient of War!
NoIntestines
Profile Joined March 2011
United States35 Posts
December 30 2013 19:46 GMT
#716
12-2 Druid deck: (forgot to get snapshot)
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(2)Innverate

Worgen Infiltrator
Naturalize

Bluegill Warrior
(2)Power of the Wild
Loot Hoarder
Wrath
Youthful Brewmaster
Dire Wolf Alpha

Raging Worgen
Mind Control Tech
(2)Scarlet Crusader
Ironfur Grizzly

(4)Swipe
Keeper of the Grove
Gnomish Inventor

Azure Drake
(2)Druid of the Claw
Starfall

Argent Commander

Stormwind Champion
Ironbark Protector
Sea Giant


The actual draft if you're curious:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't think I would have picked the first Swipe if I'd known I was going to get 3 more, but as it turns out having 3+ of a card, especially an AOE card, can really catch people off guard.

Interestingly, I played two games in a row against the same Shaman and won both handily. Felt pretty bad for the guy.
When I am weaker than you I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you I take away your freedom because that is according to mine.
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
December 30 2013 20:43 GMT
#717
4 Swipes is pretty sick imo, I would pick 8 of them if given the choice!
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
December 30 2013 20:45 GMT
#718
I didn't touch arena for quite some time now. I kept getting ridiculous choices and didn't get satisfying results (no spell mage, no legendaries at all, 1 epic out of 5 runs - the list is long).
Now I actually have a decent deck and I'm currently on a 6-0 winning streak as a paladin (without truesilver or tirion)!
I'll update my post when I've finished my run, but I'm happy about my results so far!
woodszilla
Profile Joined November 2013
United States64 Posts
December 30 2013 21:07 GMT
#719
On December 30 2013 08:22 virtu333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 01:59 RoyaSalute wrote:
Yeah, i like the idea of 5 cards as well...

I did my first 12-0 run :D... and with shaman (I usually dont pick mage, I know it is by far the best class, but I have more fun playing others on arena).

Here is the deck... I had pretty solid picks

[image loading]

just one molten giant is not on the picture


The spells make it look like a constructed deck o_O


Yea this is a ridiculous shaman arena deck. Jealous.
woodszilla
Profile Joined November 2013
United States64 Posts
December 30 2013 21:14 GMT
#720
On December 31 2013 05:43 Gotuso wrote:
4 Swipes is pretty sick imo, I would pick 8 of them if given the choice!


Yea I played vs a 4 swipe deck on my current run... he never had more than 1 minion on the board until the very end, i felt like I was in complete control, had him down to 6 health. All he had to do was swipe my board 4 times, followed with a priestess of elune and an ironbark, finished with a starfire to the face. Might have been my most frustrating game to date. You just don't expect that fourth swipe =P
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