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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1032 Posts
January 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#1121
On January 13 2014 09:24 Janaan wrote:
As a new player who doesn't want to spend any money buying things, who got Baron Gedden in a pack from an arena pack, would it be better to DE him and get a couple good Neutral cards to buff up all my decks? I know the Baron isn't the greatest Legendary so it may benefit me more in the long run to do so, but I may never see him again.

If you suggest DEing, what cards would you suggest that could be used to buff up multiple free decks?


I do not recommend disenchanting legendaries. They're too rare. I've opened over 30 packs and still haven't found a single legendary, but I have most of the commons. So just keep on farming gold/arena for packs and you will have them as well, or disenchant rares/epics instead.

I'm no expert but I can tell you that a common that is great in any deck is Argent Commander, and Argent Squire for most decks.
Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 04:19:11
January 13 2014 04:06 GMT
#1122
After a couple weeks of playing Hearthstone, I finally got what I think is a fairly decent card pack draw - Defias Ringleader, Twilight Drake, Mark of Nature, Spellbreaker and Bite.

The three class specific cards all look really nice. But are Spellbreaker and Twilight Drake useful cards, and what kinds of decks would they be found in?
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 04:49:34
January 13 2014 04:42 GMT
#1123
On January 13 2014 13:06 Darion wrote:
After a couple weeks of playing Hearthstone, I finally got what I think is a fairly decent card pack draw - Defias Ringleader, Twilight Drake, Mark of Nature, Spellbreaker and Bite.

The three class specific cards all look really nice. But are Spellbreaker and Twilight Drake useful cards, and what kinds of decks would they be found in?

Spellbreaker is found in all kinds of decks. There are two non class specific silences in the game. Afaik there are 3 classes that have silences as well: druid, shaman, and priest. Silences can be pretty good. The only other neutral silence has 1 life and so is often a bad card because it's easy to kill.
Twilight drake is found in slow decks that don't play many cards or only play card draw cards. Most slow decks are very expensive but you can get pretty far with a slow druid deck with 1 legendary.

Bite is fine removal. I prefer swipe which also does 4 damage and is better as a standalone card.
Mark of nature is fine for a minion you want to keep alive for a bit longer. Usually it's a bad idea to have too many copies of buff cards because if you have a buff card and a minion you can use it, but if you have a buff card and no minion then you can't use the buff card.
Defias ringleader is the root of a lot of frustrations of playing against rogue. Coin + defias and backstab + defias are scary combos.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
January 14 2014 00:03 GMT
#1124
Quick question : May be tricky, but I don't know the answer and didn't want to know in Arena...

What happens when you get corruption on your minion and then you decide to faceless manipulator it ? Will it die on the next turn, or will it die on my next turn ? If that was the later, it could've been useful because it was a big one with taunt and the opponent had no removals...
He won because I decided to silence it (meaning still big numbers but no taunt and a very fragile hero)...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 14 2014 13:57 GMT
#1125
On January 14 2014 09:03 RaiZ wrote:
Quick question : May be tricky, but I don't know the answer and didn't want to know in Arena...

What happens when you get corruption on your minion and then you decide to faceless manipulator it ? Will it die on the next turn, or will it die on my next turn ? If that was the later, it could've been useful because it was a big one with taunt and the opponent had no removals...
He won because I decided to silence it (meaning still big numbers but no taunt and a very fragile hero)...

I would have died had you not silence it. Faceless makes a exact duplicate of the target. same thing if it is frozen or have divine.
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 14:31:25
January 14 2014 14:30 GMT
#1126
On January 13 2014 10:16 Freezard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 09:24 Janaan wrote:
As a new player who doesn't want to spend any money buying things, who got Baron Gedden in a pack from an arena pack, would it be better to DE him and get a couple good Neutral cards to buff up all my decks? I know the Baron isn't the greatest Legendary so it may benefit me more in the long run to do so, but I may never see him again.

If you suggest DEing, what cards would you suggest that could be used to buff up multiple free decks?


I do not recommend disenchanting legendaries. They're too rare. I've opened over 30 packs and still haven't found a single legendary, but I have most of the commons. So just keep on farming gold/arena for packs and you will have them as well, or disenchant rares/epics instead.

I'm no expert but I can tell you that a common that is great in any deck is Argent Commander, and Argent Squire for most decks.


it takes about a 3-4 weeks (1 pack a day) to farm enough dust for a legendary. lets say your luck is terrible and you get 4 common and a rare. thats 40 dust taking you 40 days to farm enough dust for a legendary.

edit: quoted the wrong person...was meant to give some info to the baron gedden question =p
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
January 14 2014 18:21 GMT
#1127
If i have 4 of the same cards, but 2 is gold rarity. Will the "disenchant extra" button DE the 2 remaining regular rarity and leave the gold one instead?
Skol
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 14 2014 18:26 GMT
#1128
I believe there's a checkbox on the right regarding DEing golden cards... can't check at work though.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
January 14 2014 18:53 GMT
#1129
No disenchant extra button makes a difference between golden cards and common. There is no risk that you disenchant your normal or golden by mistake
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 14 2014 19:34 GMT
#1130
What does OTK mean?
Jeanjacket
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 19:44:28
January 14 2014 19:43 GMT
#1131
On January 13 2014 09:24 Janaan wrote:
As a new player who doesn't want to spend any money buying things, who got Baron Gedden in a pack from an arena pack, would it be better to DE him and get a couple good Neutral cards to buff up all my decks? I know the Baron isn't the greatest Legendary so it may benefit me more in the long run to do so, but I may never see him again.

If you suggest DEing, what cards would you suggest that could be used to buff up multiple free decks?


Check out the TL Hearthstone Articles: http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=480

Lots of advice on play style, first crafts, legendary crafts, cheap decks, etc. Granted the new patch will make some of that information outdated or irrelevant, but it's all a good read for theory crafting and getting your mind in the right direction when approaching the game.

Like the articles and someone else here has said: Argent Commander, Defender of Argus, Argent Squire, Harvest Golem, etc. (Article on first crafts:HERE
BUT Remember that patches are a'comin', so some of the cards mentioned in the article will be taking a hit, and you may wish to see what cards come into usefulness soon.

RE: Baron Geddon, unless you're 400 away from a clutch legendary craft that completes a deck you're really wanting to use, I'd hold off on DE'ing for several reasons.

Meta-shift: We constantly see major changes in the game right now, being in beta, so the playable value of that card might skyrocket in the near future.
Patches: With the constant patching occurring the the beta, Baron Geddon might get patched as well, and when that happens, you'll be able to DE him for a full 1600 dust and pick a new legendary of your choice.
Rarity!: Like others have said, they're RARE! I've opened probably over 60 packs through normal gameplay and I've gotten a whopping 2, one of which is (what I consider to be useless) Millhouse Manastorm.

Just my $0.02.

ETA: Holy crap, new forum is awesome, typing minion names now creates a mouse-over for the cards. Well done TL.
Kraazor
Profile Joined June 2012
2 Posts
January 14 2014 19:46 GMT
#1132
On January 15 2014 04:34 boxerfred wrote:
What does OTK mean?
OTK stands for One Turn Kill and means you kill your opponent from a large life total in one single turn.
Jeanjacket
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
January 14 2014 19:48 GMT
#1133
On January 15 2014 04:34 boxerfred wrote:
What does OTK mean?


OTK means One Turn Kill.

As in, with nothing on the board, you can play a combination of cards that will do 30+ damage in a single turn.

An example of this that shows potential damage values can be seen here: Click Here

Although, that strategy is now KIA after the pending nerfs to Warsong Commander, but it's an example that shows how it's possible in case you were wondering.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#1134
My computer was able to Stream BW moderately, I'm wondering if I'll be able to run Hearthstone? SC2 was a no-go though lagged way too hard.
Jeanjacket
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
January 14 2014 21:50 GMT
#1135
On January 15 2014 06:33 Slardar wrote:
My computer was able to Stream BW moderately, I'm wondering if I'll be able to run Hearthstone? SC2 was a no-go though lagged way too hard.


Minimum/recommended specs for HS and SC2 are oddly very similar, despite me thinking that SC2 seems far more graphically intensive (on higher settings I'm sure it is). If you were having trouble streaming SC2 at lowest settings, you might have trouble in HS, though, perhaps HS uses less bandwidth, if that was your issue.

It's really funny looking at BW minimum specs now: https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/starcraft-system-requirements

Gotta have those 256 colors... Oh those were the days.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 23:29:41
January 14 2014 23:29 GMT
#1136
With the announced nerfs in mind, which Legendary should I craft next? I read the topic where pros voiced their opinions on the changes, and it seems like the Novice Engineer nerf might actually increase the usefulness of Nat Pagle.

The legendaries I'm considering crafting right now are:

Tinkmaster Overspark
Nat Pagle
Ysera
Tirion Fordring
Lord Jaraxxus

Tinkmaster because he seems like a staple in control decks, and is very versatile

Nat Pagle because he'd be a really good replacement for a Novice Engineer after the nerf, and because he already seemed like a solid pick, saw him used in high-level play even before the Novice nerf

Ysera because it just seems like an extremely fun card and a very powerful lategame drop. I already have Rag, but having Ysera wouldn't hurt either

Tirion because I really would like to run a Control Pally deck, and it seems like he's pretty much a staple in any respectable Control Pally deck

Jaraxxus for the same reason as Tirion, except Warlock

I feel like prioritizing the neutral legendaries over the class-specific ones for now, so I guess it's down to Tinkmaster, Nat, or Ysera. The pragmatic side of me says either Tinkmaster or Nat, because I already have a lategame finisher in Rag and because Tinkmaster and Nat will probably be more consistently useful due to their low cost.

Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Anyone want to weigh in? I don't really have a preference on what types of decks I run.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
January 16 2014 02:55 GMT
#1137
I see that there are a few cards classified as "dragon"

Is there any reason they're classified as dragon? Is there any specific card that helps/hurts them according to this class?

@ person above, I think you're on the way to answering your own question! Unless you really want to focus on only Paladin or Warlock (which isn't a bad thing if you want to!) I recommend Tinkmaster! I do not have much experience with Nat though so I could be wrong :D

GL!
Jeanjacket
Profile Joined January 2014
United States8 Posts
January 16 2014 04:23 GMT
#1138
On January 16 2014 11:55 Complete wrote:
I see that there are a few cards classified as "dragon"

Is there any reason they're classified as dragon? Is there any specific card that helps/hurts them according to this class?

@ person above, I think you're on the way to answering your own question! Unless you really want to focus on only Paladin or Warlock (which isn't a bad thing if you want to!) I recommend Tinkmaster! I do not have much experience with Nat though so I could be wrong :D

GL!


Right now, there are no synergies with any dragon cards or spells that work with them specifically. I just assume it's an area where the developers can expand later, though I imagine they'd either 1) have to be very specific synergies or 2) introduce more, lower cost/rarity dragons -- being that 6 of the 9 dragons that you can include in a deck are legendaries that probably don't need any more "help" lol, with only 1 of the 9 being a common, the Faerie Dragon.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
January 16 2014 08:35 GMT
#1139
On January 14 2014 22:57 JackDragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 09:03 RaiZ wrote:
Quick question : May be tricky, but I don't know the answer and didn't want to know in Arena...

What happens when you get corruption on your minion and then you decide to faceless manipulator it ? Will it die on the next turn, or will it die on my next turn ? If that was the later, it could've been useful because it was a big one with taunt and the opponent had no removals...
He won because I decided to silence it (meaning still big numbers but no taunt and a very fragile hero)...

I would have died had you not silence it. Faceless makes a exact duplicate of the target. same thing if it is frozen or have divine.

Lol that was a fun game, but yeah this got me puzzled hard... I still don't know what is the answer ? Would have it died at the same time as the other ?

Another question about Faerie dragon. I ran 2 arenas, and I made sure to DoA that dragon, but it didn't get that upgrade, twice... I'm pretty sure I did it before or is it my imagination ? Or bug since that patch ? Or simply a misplaced's minion bug ? Still twice this error I really doubt it and my minions weren't moving everywhere...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
January 16 2014 08:48 GMT
#1140
hmm... wanted to trade my 40gold daily quest, but didn't got a new one Oo new bug?
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