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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 29 2013 10:18 GMT
#1981
On October 29 2013 10:24 kongoline wrote:
just got my first legendary from pack and its Millhouse Manastorm, is it usable or should i disenchant him

About that:

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ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 10:35:24
October 29 2013 10:34 GMT
#1982
I feel so bad when I keep having cleric, demolisher, lightwell and SWPain/smite in my first 3-4 turns
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1934 Posts
October 29 2013 11:02 GMT
#1983
Ahahahahahaa, that Milhouse play is so priceless.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 11:06:55
October 29 2013 11:06 GMT
#1984
The fact that everything can change in one turn makes the game absolutely uninteresting. It just feels like you cant have any plan cause some cards are stupidely strong and you can just lose in one turn when you were far ahead the turn before. There's like no advantage and increasing your lead in this game.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
October 29 2013 11:21 GMT
#1985
On October 29 2013 20:06 Fatalize wrote:
The fact that everything can change in one turn makes the game absolutely uninteresting. It just feels like you cant have any plan cause some cards are stupidely strong and you can just lose in one turn when you were far ahead the turn before. There's like no advantage and increasing your lead in this game.

If you're basing this on the video I linked on this page, know that that play was very much a one in a million type of thing that was purely enabled by the Millhouse Manastorm card, which is very much a high risk/reward card on its own.
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ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
October 29 2013 11:38 GMT
#1986
On October 29 2013 20:06 Fatalize wrote:
The fact that everything can change in one turn makes the game absolutely uninteresting. It just feels like you cant have any plan cause some cards are stupidely strong and you can just lose in one turn when you were far ahead the turn before. There's like no advantage and increasing your lead in this game.


Yeah because mana flood / mana screw is so much more interesting

There you go, for 8 turns in a row you now draw only useless cards and you die from 2 useless enemy creatures

wow such complex
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
October 29 2013 11:44 GMT
#1987
On October 29 2013 20:38 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:06 Fatalize wrote:
The fact that everything can change in one turn makes the game absolutely uninteresting. It just feels like you cant have any plan cause some cards are stupidely strong and you can just lose in one turn when you were far ahead the turn before. There's like no advantage and increasing your lead in this game.


Yeah because mana flood / mana screw is so much more interesting

There you go, for 8 turns in a row you now draw only useless cards and you die from 2 useless enemy creatures

wow such complex

I think you don't like card games in general if the idea of not drawing the cards you need is such a turnoff.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-29 13:09:13
October 29 2013 13:01 GMT
#1988
On October 29 2013 19:18 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 10:24 kongoline wrote:
just got my first legendary from pack and its Millhouse Manastorm, is it usable or should i disenchant him

About that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydiqTuEvXCA


ahhahaha, that is priceless!!!

and oh very nice of blizzard for giving 300gold after you played 100games (in play mode?)!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 29 2013 13:15 GMT
#1989
There's no way you already played 300 games.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 29 2013 13:17 GMT
#1990
100 games bro lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 29 2013 13:34 GMT
#1991
Forgive me I got exam in less than 2 hours. Organic chem :<
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 29 2013 19:25 GMT
#1992
I wish they can make the voice of Mage as good as Rogue, I miss I WILL BE YOUR DEATH so much when i mainly play mage nowadays :'(
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
October 29 2013 20:05 GMT
#1993
On October 29 2013 20:44 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 20:38 ManBaker wrote:
On October 29 2013 20:06 Fatalize wrote:
The fact that everything can change in one turn makes the game absolutely uninteresting. It just feels like you cant have any plan cause some cards are stupidely strong and you can just lose in one turn when you were far ahead the turn before. There's like no advantage and increasing your lead in this game.


Yeah because mana flood / mana screw is so much more interesting

There you go, for 8 turns in a row you now draw only useless cards and you die from 2 useless enemy creatures

wow such complex

I think you don't like card games in general if the idea of not drawing the cards you need is such a turnoff.


It's not about not drawing the cards you need, it's about drawing useless cards. In MTG, drawing any non-land card if you don't have enough land, and drawing any land card when you have too much makes your draw 100% useless. There are a few situationally "useless" cards in Hearthstone, and they are (rightfully) considered bad cards. But even when you draw a 2-drop late in the game, you can play it and maybe get some effectiveness out of it, and if you draw your 9 mana legendary in your opening hand, you know that the latest you'll be able to play it is turn 9, you don't have to hope to get a land 6 out of 9 draws to be able to play it.

As to the original post, I completely disagree that the game is uninteresting because everything can change in one turn. That's precisely what makes it interesting. It's really more a characteristic of most TCG/CCG games, but having to know what your opponent has available to them and baiting out effective cards in non-optimal situations is what makes great players great. If you were far ahead and lost in one turn, that's your fault 100% of the time or you weren't as ahead as you thought you were.

There absolutely is advantage and increasing your lead in this game, it comes in the form of efficient trades and card advantage. Sometimes you are able to trade very efficiently with cards like Flamestrike, but that's partly your opponent's fault for having out too many creatures when Flamestrike is a possibility.
pokerface
Profile Joined April 2007
507 Posts
October 30 2013 15:06 GMT
#1994
I have just played against Shikyo ^^ Priest vs priest.But he seemed like he was high on something
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 00:23:59
October 31 2013 00:10 GMT
#1995
Hmm. Warrior is so fun to play, but if you don't draw a war axe within the first 3 turns, you kinda suck. I hate being so reliant on one card.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 02 2013 07:29 GMT
#1996
I don't think I'll play this game anymore. I only find arena fun, but as I've been going 0-3 three times in a row now, I don't wanna grind 150 gold just to get 10 minutes of playtime in the arena. I also follow guides with what decks to chose, but I get really "unlucky" with drawing cards, and I don't really trust that it's random anymore, but more based on Blizzard making money, because I never seem that unlucky in drawing cards when I play normal mode.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
November 02 2013 13:42 GMT
#1997
On November 02 2013 16:29 Arnstein wrote:
I don't think I'll play this game anymore. I only find arena fun, but as I've been going 0-3 three times in a row now, I don't wanna grind 150 gold just to get 10 minutes of playtime in the arena. I also follow guides with what decks to chose, but I get really "unlucky" with drawing cards, and I don't really trust that it's random anymore, but more based on Blizzard making money, because I never seem that unlucky in drawing cards when I play normal mode.

Your conspiracy theory makes no sense, because your loss is someone else's win. You just had bad luck or played badly, simple as that.
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 02 2013 14:04 GMT
#1998
So you don't think they made the system so they will make money on it? If people on average made more from arena with a cost of 150 gold than buying packs with a cost of 100 gold per pack, they would raise the price for arena.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
November 02 2013 14:07 GMT
#1999
On November 02 2013 16:29 Arnstein wrote:
I don't think I'll play this game anymore. I only find arena fun, but as I've been going 0-3 three times in a row now, I don't wanna grind 150 gold just to get 10 minutes of playtime in the arena. I also follow guides with what decks to chose, but I get really "unlucky" with drawing cards, and I don't really trust that it's random anymore, but more based on Blizzard making money, because I never seem that unlucky in drawing cards when I play normal mode.

Some simple advice. Don't follow guides as a you must pick thing look at them as more of suggestions. Craft a deck that fits your style of play and what your deck needs at the time. Yes things like Tazdingo and Yeti are strong but grabbing even a second one is kinda bad if there is something else in the draft that would help your deck more. Half the arena battle is knowing you can deal with everything and you dont have just "strong" cards
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
November 02 2013 14:18 GMT
#2000
On November 02 2013 23:07 Kyhron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 16:29 Arnstein wrote:
I don't think I'll play this game anymore. I only find arena fun, but as I've been going 0-3 three times in a row now, I don't wanna grind 150 gold just to get 10 minutes of playtime in the arena. I also follow guides with what decks to chose, but I get really "unlucky" with drawing cards, and I don't really trust that it's random anymore, but more based on Blizzard making money, because I never seem that unlucky in drawing cards when I play normal mode.

Some simple advice. Don't follow guides as a you must pick thing look at them as more of suggestions. Craft a deck that fits your style of play and what your deck needs at the time. Yes things like Tazdingo and Yeti are strong but grabbing even a second one is kinda bad if there is something else in the draft that would help your deck more. Half the arena battle is knowing you can deal with everything and you dont have just "strong" cards


I think the decks I make are good enough. Not pro level at all, but good enough. The problem with the 3 last rounds in arena is that I've gotten 4+ mana cards in the beginning, traded all of them, and still got 4+ cards(or at least 90+% of them). I've had several rounds where I've had 30 hp and my opponent less than 5, then he draws a "deal 4 damage to all enemy minions"-kind of card and kills all my minions, and all the cards I get after that are only buffs for minions, and no minions, to such an extent that he is able to kill me. I've played Magic and Android: Netrunner, but it's VERY rare to be that unlucky with your cards, so I find it curious that I could be this unlucky in 9 games in a row.
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
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