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el_dawg
Profile Joined September 2011
United States164 Posts
November 02 2013 16:43 GMT
#2001
On November 02 2013 23:18 Arnstein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2013 23:07 Kyhron wrote:
On November 02 2013 16:29 Arnstein wrote:
I don't think I'll play this game anymore. I only find arena fun, but as I've been going 0-3 three times in a row now, I don't wanna grind 150 gold just to get 10 minutes of playtime in the arena. I also follow guides with what decks to chose, but I get really "unlucky" with drawing cards, and I don't really trust that it's random anymore, but more based on Blizzard making money, because I never seem that unlucky in drawing cards when I play normal mode.

Some simple advice. Don't follow guides as a you must pick thing look at them as more of suggestions. Craft a deck that fits your style of play and what your deck needs at the time. Yes things like Tazdingo and Yeti are strong but grabbing even a second one is kinda bad if there is something else in the draft that would help your deck more. Half the arena battle is knowing you can deal with everything and you dont have just "strong" cards


I think the decks I make are good enough. Not pro level at all, but good enough. The problem with the 3 last rounds in arena is that I've gotten 4+ mana cards in the beginning, traded all of them, and still got 4+ cards(or at least 90+% of them). I've had several rounds where I've had 30 hp and my opponent less than 5, then he draws a "deal 4 damage to all enemy minions"-kind of card and kills all my minions, and all the cards I get after that are only buffs for minions, and no minions, to such an extent that he is able to kill me. I've played Magic and Android: Netrunner, but it's VERY rare to be that unlucky with your cards, so I find it curious that I could be this unlucky in 9 games in a row.


Here are a couple pieces of advice based on your description.

Curving out having good tempo is especially important in hearthstone. I would ditch the pick guides. Once you figure out which cards are straight unplayable and avoid those, focus on having a good low curve rather than individual card choices.

Make sure you have enough minions. In magic, it's pretty common to separate your creatures and spells when building a limited deck and make sure that you have enough creatures and that they form a good curve by themselves. It really sounds like the pick guides are killing you.

The situation with getting your board wiped is a pretty classic case of over extending. If you are crushing your opponent don't commit more to the board, especially when effects like flamestrike are at common. Also, make sure that you play to your outs, when winning or losing. Always be thinking what card will make me win/ lose the game and try to play as if you will see that card eventually.

Finally, one of the most important things is understanding and accepting how your decisions (in drafting and playing) impacted the game. As you get better, you will find that you all of a sudden aren't as "unlucky."
Pooshlmer
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1001 Posts
November 02 2013 19:34 GMT
#2002
First 9 arena! Deck basically looked like someone giving the finger on 4, but I got somewhat lucky with draws.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
November 03 2013 06:32 GMT
#2003
I'm just gonna throw this out there. Golden Cruel Taskmaster is definitely one of the coolest looking cards. Wow.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 03 2013 20:04 GMT
#2004
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
November 03 2013 20:14 GMT
#2005
On November 04 2013 05:04 crms wrote:
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.

Just buy more cards.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 03 2013 20:22 GMT
#2006
On November 04 2013 05:04 crms wrote:
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.

Tcg teach you the hard art of losing, they can break a lesser being thou
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
November 03 2013 21:56 GMT
#2007
On November 04 2013 05:04 crms wrote:
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.


This sounded like me yesterday haha... I'm surprised I didn't get a heart attack with the amount of salt flowing through my veins.
Twitter: @KingKosi
PushDown
Profile Joined December 2011
Italy208 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-03 22:22:17
November 03 2013 22:20 GMT
#2008
Today I came up with a sick money farming Warrior deck :D winning around 80% matches at m3, in less than 10mins. Pretty happy with myself eheh and with all the OTK hunters dead heads I carry around my belt ^^

Warrior level going from 19 to 35 in a 4-5 hours :3
Cogito ergo sum
MoonfireSpam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1153 Posts
November 04 2013 01:06 GMT
#2009
Argh I think my heart can't take the RNG salt in these games. Same reason I can't play poker for too long.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
November 04 2013 01:15 GMT
#2010
On November 04 2013 07:20 PushDown wrote:
Today I came up with a sick money farming Warrior deck :D winning around 80% matches at m3, in less than 10mins. Pretty happy with myself eheh and with all the OTK hunters dead heads I carry around my belt ^^

Warrior level going from 19 to 35 in a 4-5 hours :3


And you're not gonna share it with us?!
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
PushDown
Profile Joined December 2011
Italy208 Posts
November 04 2013 01:40 GMT
#2011
On November 04 2013 10:15 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 07:20 PushDown wrote:
Today I came up with a sick money farming Warrior deck :D winning around 80% matches at m3, in less than 10mins. Pretty happy with myself eheh and with all the OTK hunters dead heads I carry around my belt ^^

Warrior level going from 19 to 35 in a 4-5 hours :3


And you're not gonna share it with us?!


You can find the deck here

http://ihearthu.com/forums/index.php?/topic/179-gold-farming-fast-games-warrior-deck/#entry3369
Cogito ergo sum
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 04 2013 04:59 GMT
#2012
I have 0 respect for how most people play mage or priest, it's like the most brain dead mindless way you can play. It's excruciatingly frustrating.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
November 04 2013 05:18 GMT
#2013
On November 04 2013 13:59 crms wrote:
I have 0 respect for how most people play mage or priest, it's like the most brain dead mindless way you can play. It's excruciatingly frustrating.


Sounds like you just don't like control.

I love control decks in every TCG.
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 06:05:42
November 04 2013 06:05 GMT
#2014
On November 04 2013 14:18 KillerSOS wrote:
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On November 04 2013 13:59 crms wrote:
I have 0 respect for how most people play mage or priest, it's like the most brain dead mindless way you can play. It's excruciatingly frustrating.


Sounds like you just don't like control.

I love control decks in every TCG.


Agreed, it's pretty funny seeing how many people are new to CCG/TCG' coming in that are complaining that the Mage/Priest style of play is "brain dead" which mirrors most if not all of the new crowd to magic who complain that control decks are just as "brain dead" ignoring the fact that it is usually one of the heaviest decision making style of deck you can play, or they don't bother to tune their deck at all to deal with it.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 15:37:53
November 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#2015
Hearthstone isn't near the complexity of Magic (duh)so please don't act like mage or priest control decks are analogous to control in other TCGs. Mage/Priest control decks are about as simple as you can play this game. Honestly, the game isn't that deep yet, it's extremely straightforward. It's a good TCG with a lot of potential but let's not get carried away. There are definitely tiers among the classes, which is all but inevitable in any game when you're trying to balance multiple heroes or races, but Priest and Mage are quite clearly the most easily accessible and mind numbingly simple in this current iteration.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-04 15:39:37
November 04 2013 15:37 GMT
#2016
HS has been fun so far. I might even consider start rolling out the money for some new cards. And yes, Mage/Priest is nowhere near difficult to execute in this game. Hearthstone has a low skill cap and isn't hard to master, unlike MTG.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
November 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#2017
On November 04 2013 05:04 crms wrote:
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.

I become bipolar when playing this darn game. One moment I love it, the other moment I get to play a !@#$ class and say "I actually hate this game". After a while I come back though lol.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
November 04 2013 15:48 GMT
#2018
On November 05 2013 00:43 NeThZOR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2013 05:04 crms wrote:
after playing for countless hours, I think I hate this game. Priest are fucking retarded and I'm not sure I can handle the inherent RNG of card games. O well.

I become bipolar when playing this darn game. One moment I love it, the other moment I get to play a !@#$ class and say "I actually hate this game". After a while I come back though lol.

I love card games, just some card games not as much. I think the reason I'll always love MTG is because I can counter instead of just letting things happen. But I'll play this when I have time in between life and other tabletops.
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
November 04 2013 16:16 GMT
#2019
Either I'm really good at this game, or the rating system seems messed up. I'm still putzing around in Play mode leveling all the heroes to 10, and I'm already in Masters.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
November 04 2013 16:20 GMT
#2020
I am not convinced it has a standard mmr/elo curve for the rankings like sc2 or something. It has pretty good matchmaking but I dunno if everyone hits masters eventually, or what percent. Because I allso hit masters while leveling heroes, and got to masters3 easily with a basic priest deck and have no previous tcg experience. And Im not good. There seems to be a HUGE gap between entry to 3-star masters and the very top.
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