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AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 03:36:11
August 04 2009 03:30 GMT
#1
Damnit, if only I saw this a few weeks earlier...

Not eating for 12-16 hours can help people quickly reset their sleep-wake cycle, according to a study from the Harvard Medical School. This discovery can drastically improve a person's ability to cope with jet lag or adjust to working late shifts.

Scientists have long known that our circadian rhythm is regulated by our exposure to light. Now they have found a second "food clock" that takes over when we are hungry. This mechanism probably evolved to make sure starving mammals don't go to sleep when they should be foraging for food.

The lead researcher Clifford Saper explains:

The neat thing about this second clock is that it can override the main clock ... and you should just flip into that new time zone in one day.

It usually takes people a week to fully adjust to a new time zone or sleeping schedule. To think that this new "food clock" hack can help you change your internal clock in one day is mind boggling.
How Do You Use This Trick?

Simply stop eating during the 12-16 hour period before you want to be awake. Once you start eating again, your internal clock will be reset as though it is the start of a new day. Your body will consider the time you break your fast as your new "morning."

For example, if you want to start waking up at 2:00 am, you should start fasting between 10:00 am or 2:00 pm the previous day, and don't break your fast until you wake up at 2:00 am. Make sure you eat a nice healthy meal to jumpstart your system.

Another example: If you are travelling from Los Angeles to Tokyo, figure out when breakfast is served in Tokyo, and don't eat for the 12-16 hours before Tokyo's breakfast time.


http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-naturally-reset-your-sleep-cycle-overnight

Basically, stop eating 12-16 hours before your first breakfast in your destination.

And my mind was blown by breakfast = breaking your fast.

EDIT: I guess if you skip your breakfast everyday (as many of my friends do), you'll have a messed up sleeping schedule.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
August 04 2009 03:33 GMT
#2
Please don't use tl:dr on TL.

What is funny is that if you have a really long flight, and you do not eat during it because of this, you may have a worse time at customs. On higher-risk drug routes people that don't eat are noted by airline staff as potential internal drug carriers.
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aev
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
166 Posts
August 04 2009 03:33 GMT
#3
12-16 hours? i'd die. food is too good
AssuredVacancy
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1167 Posts
August 04 2009 03:37 GMT
#4
Well if you're going to the states/canada from china or korea, the flight itself should be around that length. So just skip the airplane food, it's not like they are any good anyway.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 04 2009 03:37 GMT
#5
On August 04 2009 12:33 aev wrote:
12-16 hours? i'd die. food is too good

I once had food poisoning where I couldn't eat anything for three days, that was hell...
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Xenixx
Profile Joined June 2008
United States499 Posts
August 04 2009 03:46 GMT
#6
has anyone actually tried this? sounds like nonsense. i'll give it a whirl on my next 4+ timezone difference
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11595 Posts
August 04 2009 03:51 GMT
#7
On August 04 2009 12:33 Manifesto7 wrote:
Please don't use tl:dr on TL.

What is funny is that if you have a really long flight, and you do not eat during it because of this, you may have a worse time at customs. On higher-risk drug routes people that don't eat are noted by airline staff as potential internal drug carriers.


what does tl;dr mean?
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DrTJEckleburg
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1080 Posts
August 04 2009 03:51 GMT
#8
I'll give it a shot when I start working graveyards again.
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onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
August 04 2009 03:52 GMT
#9
On August 04 2009 12:46 Xenixx wrote:
has anyone actually tried this? sounds like nonsense. i'll give it a whirl on my next 4+ timezone difference


4 hours really isn't that big of a difference. I'd try this trick if i had to go halfway across the world (like from US to China).

The concept sounds pretty intriguing and believable to me. Our body works in weird ways..
jaedong forever~
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
August 04 2009 03:52 GMT
#10
On August 04 2009 12:51 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 12:33 Manifesto7 wrote:
Please don't use tl:dr on TL.

What is funny is that if you have a really long flight, and you do not eat during it because of this, you may have a worse time at customs. On higher-risk drug routes people that don't eat are noted by airline staff as potential internal drug carriers.


what does tl;dr mean?

Too long; didn't read, using it may lead to a temp ban, use at your own risk
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 03:53:45
August 04 2009 03:53 GMT
#11
On August 04 2009 12:37 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Well if you're going to the states/canada from china or korea, the flight itself should be around that length. So just skip the airplane food, it's not like they are any good anyway.


Depends when you land really. If your flight arrives at 8pm and you want to wake up at 8am, then eating on the plane is fine, eating after you land is not.
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
August 04 2009 03:55 GMT
#12
OMG THANK U OP (for finding/posting this). Maybe it could help out with the polyphasic sleep thing for those trying it out.
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v1rtu0so
Profile Joined September 2008
United States140 Posts
August 04 2009 03:59 GMT
#13
aw
i would try this but i consider eating the airline food part of travelling experience
esp. in korean airlines
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 04 2009 04:01 GMT
#14
lol interesting find but i prefer just toughing it out like a man and forcing yourself to eat meals/sleep etc etc at normal times. exercise a lot during the day. Drink lots of caffeine if you have to make it through the day.

Normally I can overcome jetlag from US to china in 1-2 days so why bother to not eat
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 04 2009 04:02 GMT
#15
i love airplane food though ><

(most of them at least lol)
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 04:22:09
August 04 2009 04:18 GMT
#16
Pretty sure there is a sexual drive clock to the circadian rhythm also. like some people are morning fucks and others are night. Also I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets a bit of energy upon masturbation/sex and then others also get tired from it.

PS- if I am understanding this correctly they say not to eat until you want to be awake? For me whenever I eat I generally get really tired afterwords. But then again I've always noticed eating habits contributing to my late nights. Binge drinking and fast food runs, you're not supposed to eat after 9pm for a reason right?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 04 2009 04:21 GMT
#17
thank you, will be useful next year or so..
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
testpat
Profile Joined November 2003
United States565 Posts
August 04 2009 04:34 GMT
#18
Personally, i've found melatonin a quick sleep aid for dealing with jet lag. Knocks me out in about 15 minutes, feel completely rested when i wake up. Only side effect is I tend to wake up once after about four hours, and have to take another tablet.

If you're headed east (ie awake when you need to be sleeping), pop it when you're ready for bed.

If you're headed west and know you're going to tired when you want to be awake, try sleeping on the plane. Drink a fair amount of water before you go to bed since you tend to get dehydrated on planes.
Suppose I don't know taste of common salt & I want to know it.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
August 04 2009 04:46 GMT
#19
On August 04 2009 12:51 CaucasianAsian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2009 12:33 Manifesto7 wrote:
Please don't use tl:dr on TL.

What is funny is that if you have a really long flight, and you do not eat during it because of this, you may have a worse time at customs. On higher-risk drug routes people that don't eat are noted by airline staff as potential internal drug carriers.


what does tl;dr mean?

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And this was very useful in the sense that a bunch of my friends are getting back from across the world.
raiame
Profile Joined December 2007
United States421 Posts
August 04 2009 04:48 GMT
#20
The timing on this article is perfect. I leave for the airport in three hours, going halfway around the world from China to USA
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
August 04 2009 05:00 GMT
#21
Ah I thought this was basic knowledge.

I once had a group of 30 people working in a different time zone.

The whole day I was like DON'T EAT DON'T EAT
returns upon momentous occasions.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 04 2009 05:08 GMT
#22
I have an even better solution, though it relies on the same basic confusion:

EAT FOR 24 STRAIGHT HOURS.

This way, you can still enjoy the tastes you love, and still trick your body into not realizing the differences in time!
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
August 04 2009 05:13 GMT
#23
isn't there a healthier way??
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Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
August 04 2009 05:21 GMT
#24
Intentionally starve myself? Uh...no thanks. I just go outside and soak up some rays after a small cup of coffee. That usually wakes me up enough to get me through the day~
this is my quote.
ActualSteve
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States627 Posts
August 04 2009 06:05 GMT
#25
Good to know.
You are now breathing manually.
Wolfwood.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States68 Posts
August 04 2009 10:57 GMT
#26
interesting...
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 04 2009 11:01 GMT
#27
Cool.. I learned something new today.
Brood War loyalist
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
August 04 2009 11:41 GMT
#28
I think I would probably be pretty hungry after 16h of fasting. Which means I would eat a huge meal at the end of it... and end up feeling all drowzy from eating so much.
Dunno, anyways since I live in a GMT+1 timezone I rarely travel more than + or - 6 time zones.
Aznleeman
Profile Joined November 2007
United States208 Posts
August 04 2009 11:56 GMT
#29
Wow, that's a nice find. Good information for when you're traveling.

The only downside is slight hunger issues and potential cavity searches.
._.???
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-04 20:58:53
August 04 2009 12:05 GMT
#30
There's another way that involves limiting the amount of light coming in (using sun glasses) and only sleeping at certain times. It actually works, but there's a different schedule you have to follow for each trip, depending on whether you're going forward or backward X amount of hours.

I don't know where to find the information online though.
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
August 04 2009 13:24 GMT
#31
Sounds really, good; I'd be willing to starve myself for 14 hours if this actually helps avoiding jetlag.
I won't be able to test this very soon though, since I almost never travel to timezones that vary more than one or two hours from mine o_o And the next overseas trip is not going to take place in the near future.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
August 04 2009 13:41 GMT
#32
On August 04 2009 12:37 AssuredVacancy wrote:
Well if you're going to the states/canada from china or korea, the flight itself should be around that length. So just skip the airplane food, it's not like they are any good anyway.

Actually the airline food is probably pretty decent, with a stronger taste than normal food, but in a pressurized cabin your tastebuds don't work as they normally do.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 04 2009 13:45 GMT
#33
I've never had a problem with jet lag. Beds are always welcoming and i crash no matter the time
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 04 2009 13:54 GMT
#34
why starve yourself?
if u land in the morning stay up all night before your flight so u sleep the whole way.
if you land at night then stay awake during the trip so u fall asleep.
(did Harvard not use some common sense before this study?? jks)
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AlienAlias
Profile Joined June 2009
United States324 Posts
August 04 2009 14:30 GMT
#35
Hmm, I could try using this to set my internal clock back about 6 hours so I can get up at 5:30 am again once school starts XD
Ichigo1234551
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States649 Posts
August 04 2009 15:11 GMT
#36
wow thanks lol. Im trying to fixed my sleeping scedule
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MannerMan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
371 Posts
August 06 2009 10:12 GMT
#37
Alright boys, here's the scientific results of the scientific study I scientifically conducted in my home.

I've been sleeping at unconventional and somewhat random hours because I'm a college student on summer break who doesn't care when he wakes up. For about the last week I haven't been going to bed before 5AM. Generally it takes me about a week to get to waking at 5AM by staying up progressively later, first 7, then 10, then 14:00, then 13, then 14, then 17, then 20. Or something like that. I decided to give this a try.

I fasted from dinner Tuesday until 6am Weds morning. The article didn't mention anything about doing anything but fasting, so I slept from 11PM-3AM because I was tired. I slept again that morning from noon till 6PM, but when I awoke I found myself feeling much less rested than usual. Last night I went to bed around 10PM and I woke up at 5 this morning. I had a relatively short fast (12 hours), so maybe more accurate results could be had with the longer one, but this seems like a great success for me. 36 hours from first fast till fixed clock is pretty incredible.

Some of you may be like, lol mannerman it takes you a week to stay up all night, I just stay up for really long one day!! That's fine, but I would needs loads of caffeine to do that, and that doesn't give me anything like a regular sleep pattern even after I wake up at a normal time, I still feel drowsy the next day and am susceptible to naps which will just ruin it straight off the bat. I feel fantastic waking up this morning, I have normal amounts of energy and I feel like I'll be waking up at good times for the foreseeable future.

Final notes:
I did drink water during my fast.
I felt really weird all day after the fast was broken, like something was off.
It worked.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 06 2009 10:21 GMT
#38
I always nom nom nom on the planes, and I'm fine with jetlag
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Dametri
Profile Joined September 2005
United States726 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 10:41:11
August 06 2009 10:35 GMT
#39
I've never understood the concept of jetlag
I'm always tired, no matter the cirumstance
Also I've gone several days without eating before. After a while you just feel really weak... the only real bad part was the headache. The people who can't go 16 hours without food probably also have postings in the fitness thread -.-
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Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
August 06 2009 10:39 GMT
#40
I think I would rather suffer jetlag than not eat for 16 hours.
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
August 06 2009 11:02 GMT
#41
On August 06 2009 19:39 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I think I would rather suffer jetlag than not eat for 16 hours.

amen
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 06 2009 11:13 GMT
#42
is jetlag really that bad? I've never had it but I thought you're just tired?
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 06 2009 11:16 GMT
#43
Just have enough rest after you land, it works for me ... =)
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soudo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
603 Posts
August 06 2009 11:35 GMT
#44
Well shit, I've been hacking my own internal clock for the past couple weeks. No wonder I keep going to sleep at 5:00am.
Dknight
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States5223 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-06 12:27:26
August 06 2009 12:27 GMT
#45
I tried this when I started working the overnight shift again and it helped in readjusting. Definitely recommend it. Then again, it could be I'm used to doing it since I have to readjust twice a year when I go back there.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 06 2009 12:38 GMT
#46
hahaha break a fast :D
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
August 06 2009 12:39 GMT
#47
On August 06 2009 20:13 Ace wrote:
is jetlag really that bad? I've never had it but I thought you're just tired?

have u ever traveled?
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vAltyR
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States581 Posts
August 11 2009 15:59 GMT
#48
Interesting. Maybe this can help me with my messed-up sleep schedule. Thanks for posting this!
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sith
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2474 Posts
August 11 2009 16:25 GMT
#49
Not eating seems pretty shitty...and I can usually lose at least 1 night's sleep or a large majority of it without feeling too tired the next day, so that's my favorite strategy. I just stay up all night or most of it then go to sleep normal time or a bit earlier the next night, and i'm good.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
August 11 2009 16:44 GMT
#50
this would have helped 3 weeks ago when I was jetlagged from my trip the the UK
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gchan
Profile Joined October 2007
United States654 Posts
August 11 2009 19:22 GMT
#51
I've found that wearing sunglasses everywhere (indoors + outdoors) a couple days before your flight helps as well. The helps to reduce the sun's circadian rhythm regulating properties.
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
August 11 2009 20:13 GMT
#52
On August 06 2009 20:13 Ace wrote:
is jetlag really that bad? I've never had it but I thought you're just tired?

Yes, jetlag is terrible. A lot of people I know go back and forth to India regularly (~12 hour time difference) and they're fucked up for days.

I'm definitely going to try this the next time I screw up my sleep schedule with work all-nighters.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-12 01:50:39
August 12 2009 01:46 GMT
#53
On August 06 2009 20:13 Ace wrote:
is jetlag really that bad? I've never had it but I thought you're just tired?


think about lag.... what does it mean? It literally means you fall behind everyone else.

That is, when they're going to sleep you're still awake, when they're awake you're going to sleep etc. etc. So you "fall behind" the "normal" sleeping pattern of where you're staying.

Jetlag is awful coz you'll step off a plane and then for a whole week you're watching night television coz you can't fall asleep. Then when everyone's keen to do things in the morning you're going to bed. This is the extreme case but, that's what "jetlag" is. The sleeping pattern difference caused by change of timezone.

EDIT:

For my own story, I actually kept eating! I was flying from Sydney to Chicago (stopping over in SF) and the flight boarded at 6pm-ish. So I ate all day (breakfast, lunch and dinner in Sydney), boarded the plane and did the same (19 hr direct flight to SF), got off at SF, had McDonalds, boarded the plane to Chicago, ate on that plane, got off, ate at my cousin's place when I got there... what did all this result in? In the longest most epic single-piece sh*t I've ever had. I think I shat the entire length of my colon. Try it sometime, or not. Think about it this way, HOWWWWWW SATISFYING IS THAT SH*T GONNA BE!!!!!??? I tell you what, the feeling alone was worth it!
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
August 12 2009 02:33 GMT
#54
a lot of students who have bad sleeping habits, like, sleeping 12 hours straight on a saturday and then eating lunch at 3pm will fuck up their carcadian rythm for this reason.

so be careful when you sleep 12 hours and then want to eat something.
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1a2a3aProtoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada25 Posts
August 12 2009 02:41 GMT
#55
What if you feel hungry on the plane
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