Sarah Palin...F&*k

On July 04 2009 09:14 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
As much of a train wreck she was (I firmly believed McCain would've had a real shot without Palin and her sabotaging blunders down the stretch), Palin has an actual shot at the White House *shrieks of terror ensue*. Obama's poll numbers will continue to slide gradually, as the common idiot will (eventually) see that he is just another politician and not the Savior of America. Wait for it... But THEN, the common idiot may grow SO weary of these broken promises, that they will swing back to the other side slightly, giving Palin and her list of soon-to-be-broken promises life in 2012.

It's a broken system. My vote has the same worth as a high school dropout, a Holocaust denier, or someone who thinks the Earth is only 7000 years old... *shivvers*...

On July 04 2009 09:20 Athos wrote:
I bet she's going to have her own show on Fox News now, kinda like Huckabee.

On July 04 2009 09:22 Empyrean wrote:


6000. The world is 6000 years old.

On July 04 2009 10:03 Judicator wrote:
She's not going to get the Republican bid and I don't think Crazy Stupid Backwater have their own platform or party.

On July 04 2009 10:28 HeadBangaa wrote:
It's not a thread about socialist teleprompted Obama, it's about moosehunter knucklehead Palin.

On July 04 2009 10:07 Vision wrote:


I think I should just kill myself right now. Really? rofl.

Though Todd Palin told Fox News he built his Lake Lucille home with the help of a few "buddies," according to Barrett’s report, public records revealed that SBS supplied the materials for the house. While serving as mayor of Wasilla, Sarah Palin blocked an initiative that would have required the public filing of building permits—thus momentarily preventing the revelation of such suspicious information.

Just months before Palin left city hall to campaign for governor, she awarded a contract to SBS to help build the $13 million Wasilla Sports Complex. The most expensive building project in Wasilla history, the complex cost the city an additional $1.3 million in legal fees and threw it into severe long-term debt. For SBS, however, the bloated and bungled project was a cash cow.

On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.

On July 04 2009 10:47 Sadistx wrote:


Nice trolling attempt.

On July 04 2009 10:55 evandi wrote:


You don't know anything about this subject evidently. Why don't you ignore threads about grownup stuff?

On July 04 2009 10:58 Sadistx wrote:

Why don't you stop the obvious trolling?

On July 04 2009 10:57 n.DieJokes wrote:
There is no way the rebulican party will let this happen; despite all the streotypes and hate against them, the guys running the show are very intelligent and Palin... well shes a disaster

On July 04 2009 11:03 Mindcrime wrote:


I don't think anyone is running the show at this point.

On July 04 2009 11:02 cz wrote:


As Letterman said to O'Reiley, "I pause because I think before I say something." However much you dislike Obama, he's a very intellectually smart person. Speaking in a somewhat stuttered way doesn't change that.

And yes, Palin is a moron. Have you ever watched her in any interview? She has political smarts, though.

On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.

On July 04 2009 10:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Another thing I just noticed she got the MacArthur quote wrong. He never said that.

On July 04 2009 11:06 cz wrote:


Realized you are a troll and am not responding to you anymore.

On July 04 2009 11:05 evandi wrote:


I've seen her in many interview and most were not bad. I only remember one bad one: the Couric interview.

However much I dislike Obama, I disagree that he is an intellectually smart person. He is just good at presentation in my opinion.

On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.

On July 04 2009 11:15 Mickey wrote:


Of course because getting a bachelors degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho outshines a bachelors in political science with foreign relations from Colombia university.

And I mean you're so right. He's not a very smart person. What smart person could graduate with academic distinction from Harvard law school and become editor of the Harvard law review? I mean anyone could do that including you right?

I completely agree with you he's not a very intellectually smart person.

On July 04 2009 11:16 Musoeun wrote:
I wouldn't call Palin stupid. She's said a ton of dumb things - as have former VP Quayle, former President GW Bush, current VP Biden, etc. etc. Palin's mistakes got blown way out of proportion primarily because her political strategy which worked fine in Alaska - "One of you guys and proud of it," doesn't fly on the big stage that includes the big cities.

I for one don't see how, "I can see Russia from my house," (a clear exaggeration, people, obviously not meant literally) is any worse a political snafu than, "...clinging desperately to their guns and religion," in a country where the majority of the population at least claims some sort of faith.

(Of course, if Palin did mean that literally, she's dumber than I thought.)

My big problem with Palin is that she came off as insincere. I disagree with some of Obama's policies and actions in office, but this would be true of any President. He always seems like he means well, he genuinely wants to help. Palin's record just indicates that she likes power and she likes spending money. She may talk the talk about god and moose-hunting, but when it comes to actual policy, there's no good reason to pick her.

Given the potentially shady stuff that came up even during her VP campaign, I suspect something else has shown up and this is just Palin getting out of town before, as they say, the fecal waste matter hits the rotary air impeller.

On July 04 2009 11:18 evandi wrote:


I don't think he is dumb, I just don't think he is particularly bright. And I think that it is people who have connections that go to those schools, not necessarily people who are bright.

On July 04 2009 11:16 cz wrote:


He's obviously a troll - he wants this kind of attention.

Ignore him please.

On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:
Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.

On July 04 2009 11:23 Musoeun wrote:


I've seen this debate go back and forth so many times that I lost track ...I honestly thought she had said something very similar at one point. But my point still stands - it's not as dumb a thing to say (if she did say it) as something Obama said.

On July 04 2009 11:21 Mickey wrote:

I can't even or shouldn't respond. Barrack Obama took out massive loans to pay for college/Law School, and he had almost no connections at Harvard Law School.

You are pathetic in every sense of the word. I'm not responding anymore you troll.

On July 04 2009 11:29 Mokinono wrote:
All politicians are terrible. Palin and Obama are about the same. Both are crooks. Both are out to do a terrible job as president. Both are lying politicians. I just think that Palin will lie a little less than Obama.

On July 04 2009 11:29 cz wrote:
Everyone please ignore evandi, he is trolling and hoping to get an inflammatory response.

On July 04 2009 11:23 Musoeun wrote:


I've seen this debate go back and forth so many times that I lost track ...I honestly thought she had said something very similar at one point. But my point still stands - it's not as dumb a thing to say (if she did say it) as something Obama said.

On July 04 2009 11:20 evandi wrote:


Well, given that she didn't say that she could see Russia from her house (that was her SNL imitator), I hope you realize just how unfair she has been treated that you actually got the impression that she did say that.

She actually said, you can see parts of Russia from an Island of Alaska, or something very similar to that.

On July 04 2009 11:28 evandi wrote:


Why are you saying that he had "almost" no connections at Harvard Law School?

I'm sure his father, who attended Harvard, helped get him in.

But anyway, it must be easy if every thing you are ignorant about is an excuse to label someone else a troll.

On July 04 2009 11:41 Mickey wrote:
YES EVANDI OBAMA SR. HELPED HIS SON GET INTO HARVARD LAW SCHOOL FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE!

Obama's father died in 1982. Obama entered Harvard Law School around late 1988. I'm sure the fact that Obama's father attended graduate school at Harvard helped , but if you think that SOLELY got him in. You must be a huge moron.

Evandi isn't making anyone else look like a fool besides himself. Evandi doesn't explain anything with facts, just blind opinion and twisted logic.

On July 04 2009 11:42 Mindcrime wrote:


She went further than that and what she actually said is more terrifying than what was said on SNL. She claimed that her state's proximity to Russia meant that she had legitimate foreign policy experience.

On July 04 2009 11:50 evandi wrote:
It just clowds the issue for me a bit. As does the fact that Obama's relatives in Kenya have a bit of influence.

On July 04 2009 11:54 evandi wrote:


Texans probably know more about Mexico than average and probably people on the Canadian border tend to know more about Canada.

It isn't a terrible thing to suggest that proximity to a foreign country implies familiarity.

On July 04 2009 11:52 evandi wrote:


Dude, go to any conservative website and read what they think about Obama. Are they all trolls?

A lot of people agree with the things I have been saying. I may be right or wrong (by mistake), but I am not a troll and it is evil of you to suggest that.

On July 04 2009 11:55 Mindcrime wrote:


Yeah, his illiterate step-grandmother is pulling all the strings.

On July 04 2009 10:26 PobTheCad wrote:
she cant possibly be worse than obama

On July 04 2009 11:58 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

lol holy shit you're such an idiot.

On July 04 2009 11:59 Mindcrime wrote:
And I heard that the Knights Templar control all of the world's banks.

On July 04 2009 12:02 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
No thanks.

You aren't even worth it.


I will say this though...Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Yale.

At least obama can speak english properly.

On July 04 2009 12:02 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
No thanks.

You aren't even worth it.


I will say this though...Bush Sr, Bush Jr, Yale.

At least obama can speak english properly.

On July 04 2009 11:59 animus123 wrote:


THIS.


Obama has done nothing but put this country deeper and deeper into debt. How the hell can you people possibly justify anything he's done? Because he makes you feel good? We're going to have another TEN TRILLION DOLLARS of debt in the next decade. How is adding more debt supposed to help the economy? That isn't even counting this health plan of his. Which could easily add the same again to our debt.

Our country is already in debt. Think about this, if you have no money, you generally realize that to spend more money is not going to pay off your credit cards. It makes things worse.

Obama has been a disaster of epic proportions. I pray for the days of Bush to come back. I'd much rather watch the news bash on him 24/7 than this sycophantic crap i hear these days.

On July 04 2009 11:59 animus123 wrote:


THIS.


Obama has done nothing but put this country deeper and deeper into debt. How the hell can you people possibly justify anything he's done? Because he makes you feel good? We're going to have another TEN TRILLION DOLLARS of debt in the next decade. How is adding more debt supposed to help the economy? That isn't even counting this health plan of his. Which could easily add the same again to our debt.

Our country is already in debt. Think about this, if you have no money, you generally realize that to spend more money is not going to pay off your credit cards. It makes things worse.

Obama has been a disaster of epic proportions. I pray for the days of Bush to come back. I'd much rather watch the news bash on him 24/7 than this sycophantic crap i hear these days.

On July 04 2009 12:04 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

Obama is still spending LESS than Bush Jr. did. How do you respond to that?

Bush Jr has spent more than any other president in the history of the united states yet hes supposed to be conservative.

Wrap your head around that one.

On July 04 2009 12:07 Mindcrime wrote:


Right, because Palin is such a fiscal conservative.

rofl

On July 04 2009 12:01 evandi wrote:


Well, on this particular issue I admit I haven't looked at it enough. I'll assume he is smart and I take what I said back.

On July 04 2009 12:07 Sadistx wrote:
This thread is providing me with a great deal of entertainment.

Hey Evandi, I think Rev. Wright is a terminator robot that will destroy the U.S. Government in 2017. But hey, don't bash my opinion, I'm just a DSKLJKJVConservative. If you haven't heard of DSKLJKJVConservatives before, don't worry, we just haven't had much media exposure.

Also, Rush Limbaugh is a cylon and Palin's family breeds T-rexes in the basement.

That is all.

On July 04 2009 12:07 animus123 wrote:



What in the hell are you smoking child? Obama has spent more than Bush + all the rest combined already in his first 6 months of office.

I need to find your drug dealer to get the stuff he's selling. That's some top notch ingredients he's using.

On July 04 2009 11:59 animus123 wrote:


THIS.


Obama has done nothing but put this country deeper and deeper into debt. How the hell can you people possibly justify anything he's done? Because he makes you feel good? We're going to have another TEN TRILLION DOLLARS of debt in the next decade. How is adding more debt supposed to help the economy? That isn't even counting this health plan of his. Which could easily add the same again to our debt.

Our country is already in debt. Think about this, if you have no money, you generally realize that to spend more money is not going to pay off your credit cards. It makes things worse.

Obama has been a disaster of epic proportions. I pray for the days of Bush to come back. I'd much rather watch the news bash on him 24/7 than this sycophantic crap i hear these days.

On July 04 2009 12:09 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

Yep you're an idiot.

Do you even know what the knights templar is?

I'll give you time to wiki it.

On July 04 2009 12:07 animus123 wrote:
Obama has spent more than Bush + all the rest combined already in his first 6 months of office.

On July 04 2009 12:11 Mickey wrote:

You do now that the huge recession we are currently in had major roots in the Bush's administration economic policy dating back to his 1st term.

We went from a billion dollar annual budget surplus with Clinton to a trillion dollar deficit with Bush. Also, Bush would of passed the stimulus bill as well. He even supported it some kind of stimulus bill although the democrats and republicans disagreed in the structure.

However, blame the man in charge! BLAME BLAME BLAME CRY CRY CRY! That's all most Americans due nowadays instead of educating themselves about the problems and their roots. Whatever happen to analyzing and figuring out a solution? Every party has it's faults, but pointing the finger won't lead us anywhere. I rarely like to point fingers myself. I just state facts.

I'm gonna do the smart thing that most intelligent people are doing.I'm going to get an education and do whatever I can to help progress my country both economically and socially. It's called being a grown up and a American.

Why don't you give it a try?

On July 04 2009 12:11 evandi wrote:


You are referring to a conspiracy theory in order to imply that I am believing a different conspiracy theory. Wow, yes I know this. You should have realized from my response that I was backing down from my claim. What part of "i admit i haven't looked at it enough. I'll assume he is smart and take what I said back" were you unable to comprehend?

On July 04 2009 12:14 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

lmao...oh man.

Done with this thread

On July 04 2009 12:14 evandi wrote:
Bush was a terrible president and he was hardly conservative.

On July 04 2009 12:11 Mickey wrote:

You do now that the huge recession we are currently in had major roots in the Bush's administration economic policy dating back to his 1st term.

We went from a billion dollar annual budget surplus with Clinton to a trillion dollar deficit with Bush. Also, Bush would of passed the stimulus bill as well. He even supported it some kind of stimulus bill although the democrats and republicans disagreed in the structure.

However, blame the man in charge! BLAME BLAME BLAME CRY CRY CRY! That's all most Americans due nowadays instead of educating themselves about the problems and their roots. Whatever happen to analyzing and figuring out a solution? Every party has it's faults, but pointing the finger won't lead us anywhere. I rarely like to point fingers myself. I just state facts.

I'm gonna do the smart thing that most intelligent people are doing.I'm going to get an education and do whatever I can to help progress my country both economically and socially. It's called being a grown up and a American.

Why don't you give it a try?

On July 04 2009 12:18 Mindcrime wrote:


In what way was he not conservative?

On July 04 2009 12:09 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:

Look at the numbers...

On July 04 2009 12:21 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Ok animus, master of economics, what would you recommend as a solution ?

Since you know whats best. With your years of education on the matter, like MSNBC financial shows.

On July 04 2009 12:35 n.DieJokes wrote:
I love hearing people talk about the economy in vague generalities and attributing its up's and down's to X's and Y's which, really are just arbitary factors. I really doubt theres more than a handful of people on this Earth who truely understand what's going on and why and what to do about the economy. Seriously, I don't think you can take steps to FIX the economy, just address problems created by a weak economy.

On July 04 2009 12:34 Mindcrime wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E

obviously all an evil conspiracy

On July 04 2009 12:44 evandi wrote:
Umm... ok. when people claimed over and over that trig was actually not her son that was not bias? When it made the mainstream news with absolutely no evidence at all there was no bias at all?

On July 04 2009 12:52 Mindcrime wrote:


The evidence was Bristol. People were wrong about Trig, but 100% right about Bristol being pregnant.

And where do you get your news from again? The 100% unbiased sources that told you about Obama's mastermind of an illiterate step-grandmother?

On July 04 2009 12:35 animus123 wrote:

The MSNBC reference was merely to show you that even hardcore Obama supporters don't understand where he's going with this. I was trying for a bit of subtlety there. Forgive me if it went over your head.



As a solution, first of all just bank this health care proposal for now. It's not a terrible idea, it needs a lot of refinement but we simply don't have the money for it at this point in time.

Second, I loved how he said he would go Line by Line through the budget proposals to get out all the pork and then passes billlions of dollars of it. Work on that.

Third, the taxes. I'd say get rid of them but that would cause people's heads to explode. Let's start with the capital gains tax. Remember that thing? Clinton got rid of it too. One of the reasons why his economy was so good. Make it go away. Also this whole taxing the rich thing. Makes sense in your head because those damn rich people are so evil. But it's terrible plan. Cut those. Rich people are not evil(well some are) and they one of the driving forces of our economy. They employ a lot, already pay a lot just because they make a lot, and spend a lot.

Fourth, people are bothering me to play dota so i'm probably going to leaving this thread soon.

On July 04 2009 12:56 hiro protagonist wrote:
back on topic: whos is gonna replace her?

On July 04 2009 12:35 n.DieJokes wrote:
I love hearing people talk about the economy in vague generalities and attributing its up's and down's to X's and Y's which, really are just arbitary factors. I really doubt theres more than a handful of people on this Earth who truely understand what's going on and why and what to do about the economy. Seriously, I don't think you can take steps to FIX the economy, just address problems created by a weak economy.

On July 04 2009 09:00 Mindcrime wrote:
I would not be surprised if she got caught doing something and is getting out as quickly as she can.

On July 04 2009 12:23 animus123 wrote:


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123629969453946717.html

There's the results of a quick search i did. Looks like more debt than all the other presidents combined to me.

EDIT: fixed spelling errors. I R GUD ATT THE ENGLISH.

On July 04 2009 14:42 Descent wrote:
Is the essential sentence in that article on which you are relying "The budget more than doubles the national debt held by the public, adding more to the debt than all previous presidents -- from George Washington to George W. Bush -- combined." by chance?

From my own quick searches, the current national debt is approximately 11.5 trillion USD. Barack Obama became the incumbent president on Jan. 20, 2009, when the national debt was approximately 10.6 trillion USD. So during the Obama presidency, the national debt increased by 0.9 trillion USD. The national debt prior to the Obama presidency is what all former presidents have accumulated since the nation was founded, and that totals the 10.6 trillion USD that the Obama administration started with.

The previous president, George W. Bush, was the incumbent from Jan. 20, 2001 to Jan. 20, 2009, a span of 8 years. During that time, the national debt went from approximately 5.7 trillion USD to approximately 10.6 trillion USD, with an increase of 4.9 trillion USD.

Granted, the Bush administration was responsible for 8 whole years, whereas the Obama administration has only been responsible for approximately half a year. Dividing the earlier figure by 8, I got that the Bush administration increased the national debt by approximately 0.6 trillion USD per year, or ~600 billion USD/year. Going by the same rough calculation, the Obama administration will see the national debt increase during its first year by approximately 1.7 trillion USD. A large number indeed, but still only theoretical, meaning that the actual number could turn out to be either larger or smaller than 1.7 trillion USD. Regardless, the current 0.9 trillion USD is still smaller than the 10.6 trillion USD accumulated by former presidents, and smaller than the 4.9 trillion USD increase of George W. Bush.

Anyway, do you have any other sources than the one you linked to? I would be interested in reading a few more articles.

(Someone kindly point out if I got the numbers wrong. Thanks~)

On July 04 2009 13:48 Probe. wrote:
SARAH PALIN WILL DESTROY EVERYONE IN 2012

On July 04 2009 15:23 ghrur wrote:
No. Bush didn't have a 3.9 if his cumulative score was 77. o_o
that's like a C+?
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/

On July 04 2009 08:48 TheOvermind77 wrote:
Dammit, she just resigned as governor of Alaska, which means that she is probably setting the stage for a 2012 bid.

I'm cringing at this. Especially because I live in Kentucky and all of the rednecks are rejoicing. I heard someone say "She is so smart and she speaks from the heart!"

2012 is supposed to be the end of the world, right?

F#&k

On July 04 2009 10:24 evandi wrote:
Palin is not stupid. However there is a massive amount of ignorance out there.

I already pointed out so long ago in the 2008 political thread why most of the crap said about her was baseless.

People have insinuated the most vile crap from the very beginning before they knew anything about her other than that she was from Alaska, and the media ignored almost every time Biden or even Obama made a mistake.

Obama cannot complete a sentence without a god damned teleprompter in front of him. Don't tell me that Palin is stupid.

On July 04 2009 16:11 Samurai- wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E&feature=channel

hahaha

On July 04 2009 15:58 Sativader wrote:
Skeptoid - Sarah Palin Is Not Stupid

Everyone in this thread should listen to this podcast. It's short, and despite the title not actually arguing in support of Palin.

On July 04 2009 17:00 evandi wrote:
From watching that "painful" video. It is quote illuminating.

A part of Russia can be seen from land in Alaska. (Which is true)

Russian planes do get close to Alaskan Airspace. (Which is also true)

There are several things called the Bush doctrine. Maybe she doesn't agree with all of them. Really, you would have to be retarded to disagree with her response.

A lot of this is also just misspeaking, of which just about any politician or anyone who speaks publicly has examples of as the videos I posted imply.

The part where she was asked about what newspapers she read the question itself was insulting and hence her response.

She has basically made no more mistakes than the average politician under that level of scrutiny, she was just focused on much more so than anyone else because she could have taken the women vote and that scared the sh*t out of the left so much that they felt they had to bury her.

And they buried her by acting like her mistakes were basically the only ones made whereas Biden was just a little goofy and Obama was perfect.

On July 04 2009 17:00 evandi wrote:
From watching that "painful" video. It is quote illuminating.

A part of Russia can be seen from land in Alaska. (Which is true)

Russian planes do get close to Alaskan Airspace. (Which is also true)

There are several things called the Bush doctrine. Maybe she doesn't agree with all of them. Really, you would have to be retarded to disagree with her response.

A lot of this is also just misspeaking, of which just about any politician or anyone who speaks publicly has examples of as the videos I posted imply.

The part where she was asked about what newspapers she read the question itself was insulting and hence her response.

She has basically made no more mistakes than the average politician under that level of scrutiny, she was just focused on much more so than anyone else because she could have taken the women vote and that scared the sh*t out of the left so much that they felt they had to bury her.

And they buried her by acting like her mistakes were basically the only ones made whereas Biden was just a little goofy and Obama was perfect.

On July 04 2009 17:28 Drowsy wrote:



lol come on... a leader of the most powerful nation on earth has to be close to damn perfect. Everyone makes mistakes, but she just makes too many. How on earth can you help lead the world if you don't even know what's going on in the world? She made way more mistakes than most politicians, and, duh, that's one of the qualifcations for being leaders of the free world, being damn close to never making mistakes.

On July 04 2009 17:34 evandi wrote:


Oh lol. So which of Bush, Biden, and Obama made few mistakes?

On July 04 2009 17:37 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I am not sure that "mistakes" is really the right word for Palin's many amusing comments. I mean, a mistake might be something like saying in an interview that Karachi was the capital of Pakistan instead of Islamabad, or something like that.

Being asked about foreign policy towards Russia, and thinking that saying that one's own state is next to Russia is an appropriate, intelligent comment to make, then following this up (and I am laughing as I type this) with: "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska" is utterly ridiculous.

They are not really mistakes in the normal sense. They are something rather more.

On July 04 2009 17:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:


But not on that scale.

On July 04 2009 17:38 Comeh wrote:

I believe stupidity is the correct word you are looking for.

On July 04 2009 17:37 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:
I am not sure that "mistakes" is really the right word for Palin's many amusing comments. I mean, a mistake might be something like saying in an interview that Karachi was the capital of Pakistan instead of Islamabad, or something like that.

Being asked about foreign policy towards Russia, and thinking that saying that one's own state is next to Russia is an appropriate, intelligent comment to make, then following this up (and I am laughing as I type this) with: "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska" is utterly ridiculous.

They are not really mistakes in the normal sense. They are something rather more.

On July 04 2009 17:41 Drowsy wrote:
I guess what I meant to say was "profound displays of ignorance". Yes, all politicians have them, we want the one with the fewest. I don't care if she believes everything I believe 100% as far as political views. If something like what she says in the Couric interview that is exceedingly common, as in she says some total dumbshit statement like that, I don't want that person to be a leader.

On July 04 2009 17:40 evandi wrote:


Actually, living near a country does imply familiarity with that country. It isn't everything, but it is a little thing to say about ones experiences.

On July 04 2009 17:44 evandi wrote:


Reaaaally, well, Biden has said things of the same level of ignorance and stupidity so I hope you didn't vote for that ticket...

I've seen her in interviews before running for vice-president and she was great, made no mistakes, and seemed very informed. No one jumped on her then.

And she did very well in the debate IMO.

EDIT: She also did very well in her governor's debate before running for national office.

On July 04 2009 17:22 Drowsy wrote:



I disagree. In fact, I feel precisely the opposite. I actually agree with many of Palin's positions, but I think she's unequivacobly unintelligent. Listening to her speak, it's as though she's just regurgitating her party's platform without any real analysis or thought put into why. She can read through the script and take a position on an issue, but can't process exactly why that position is superior to alternatives. Watching her telling interview with Couric reveals that when pressed for any sort of analysis on why she holds a particular position, she's completely at a loss. I think this commentator is full of shit and has it completely backward. Sarah Palin IS stupid and is just reciting the Republican platform, whether you agree with it or not is irrelevant to judging her intelligence. If she was a Democrat and recited a more extreme version of whatever the Democrat's platform is, she's still stupid. I think the same way about Biden, dude is a fucking retard.


Sarah, why does being right next to Russia enhance your foreign policy analysis and decision making capability?

Because they're right next to me!

On July 04 2009 17:40 evandi wrote:


Actually, living near a country does imply familiarity with that country. It isn't everything, but it is a little thing to say about ones experiences.

Its a far cry from STUPID, RETARDED, OMG WE'LL ALL DIE IF SHE'S ELECTED.

On July 04 2009 17:52 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:


I am still trying to work out if you are for real, evandi.

On July 04 2009 17:50 Drowsy wrote:



No, that's simply incorrect. You just did exactly what Palin did in the interview.

How does living near a country increase your familiarity with that country, and thus your foreign policy analysis and decision making capability? Does that mean you converse or have any interaction with that proximal nation's leadership? Do you regularly interact with anyone from that country and does that give you any insight into the whole nation's interests and objectives? Living near a country doesn't make you any more familiar, interacting with them does, and if she could have cited some examples of actually interacting with Russians that would have been a totally fine answer. She didn't, and I suspect it's because she doesn't interact with anyone from Russia despite Alaska's close proximity.

On July 04 2009 17:52 Drowsy wrote:



OTHER POLITICIANS ARE DUMB TOO!11. It doesn't matter how well she did in the governor's debate, a governor has a lot less to actually worry about and don't need to be as well informed and educated. When faced with a more difficult task which demanded more of her, she crumbled because she's not smart enough. Debates are so tightly scripted and moderated it'd be rather difficult to fail. Once confronted with an interview in a more open environment where less things were under control, we got a much more accurate glimpse in her analytical skills and intelligence. You've made absolutely no defense of Palin's intelligence, just deflect, deflect, deflect. I don't like to quote myself, but:






I'm done, you've obviously got some unshakable hardon for a really stupid woman who should not be in power. Or you're a very skilled troll.

On July 04 2009 17:52 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:


I am still trying to work out if you are for real, evandi.

On July 04 2009 18:21 Kolean.Tellan wrote:
euh? never argue with an idiot, he will bring you down to his own level and beat you with experience?? ^^

On July 04 2009 18:05 evandi wrote:


How is this so difficult to understand it is a little thing to say about ones experiences. It doesn't imply anything but that she is more familiar with Russia than the average person. It implies that its probably on her mind more than the average person. I don't believe I or she claimed any more than that.

It is something worth stating and doesn't in any way claim expertise.

You are blowing this way out of proportion as is the anti-Palin custom.

On July 04 2009 18:28 Jusciax wrote:


But the point of the question was to get some idea about her expertise and knowledge about foreign policy (even a basic understanding). And she gave a completely nonsensical answer and she's rightfully so ridiculed about it, just like any politician running for office should be.
Of course it shouldn't be the only or main argument against her, but god damn are you seriously saying that you're satisfied with her answer and don't see anything wrong in it? If yes then you have some insanely low standards for government officials.

On July 04 2009 17:00 evandi wrote:
The part where she was asked about what newspapers she read the question itself was insulting and hence her response.

On July 04 2009 17:00 evandi wrote:
The part where she was asked about what newspapers she read the question itself was insulting and hence her response.

On July 04 2009 18:40 Samurai- wrote:

Here is the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y

"Yes, the question was insulting, and hence the response.." <--- rofl

There is no point discusing anything with evandi if he/she comments the video i just pasted with

Its like you receive different inputs from her videos then us.. Truly epic..

On July 04 2009 18:31 evandi wrote:


I don't think what she said implied that she was an expert on foreign policy. So, ya, I was satisfied with her answer.

Which candidate that ran was actually an expert on foreign policy? None of them. They have advisers. You have insanely misguided views on what kinds of "super-creatures" run things.

They excel at getting votes, nothing more. None of them are experts, they rely on their advisers.

On July 04 2009 18:43 Etherone wrote:


oh wait i forgot to read the fine print, you're from her church right?

On July 04 2009 18:43 evandi wrote:


Being asked if you can name at least one newspaper is pretty insulting, and you don't agree. Bask in your hatred, man.

On July 04 2009 18:43 evandi wrote:


Being asked if you can name at least one newspaper is pretty insulting, and you don't agree. Bask in your hatred, man.

On July 04 2009 18:48 evandi wrote:


Of course. It's a very large church you know. Includes every single conservative in the US. I don't know how they fit them all in, but Jesus works in mysterious ways you know.

On July 04 2009 19:00 Etherone wrote:


oh the hilarity. I'm being mocked ! priceless.

Quick question, how long ago do you believe the earth was formed?

On July 04 2009 18:51 Samurai- wrote:

Yes, its very insulting to ask someone about the newspaper he/she reads.. Specialy in this case..I am surprised the one who asked wasnt jailed.. Anyway, you are not worth the time, its like talking to a blind religious fanatic..Nothing will change your mind..

On July 04 2009 18:57 Arbiter[frolix] wrote:


Why did she not name one when asked? It is a fairly simple question. Let us consider some possible scenarios.

One possible answer is that she thought the question was insulting and so chose not to answer it, as you suggest. However, her body language and the way her verbal responses deteriorate and she starts fumbling for words strongly indicates that this is not the case. And surely, someone who thought the question was insulting would look at the questioner with incredulity and indicate as such in her answer.

A second possible answer is that she does not know the name of any newspapers. This stretches credulity and I cannot really take it seriously.

A third possible answer is that in the heat of the moment her mind went blank and she could not really remember any names so she blundered around trying to extricate herself from the situation.

A fourth possible answer is that she could name newspapers but that she was not really familiar with their content and that she was afraid of being caught out by a more detailed follow-up question so she was reluctant to name specific publications.

As I said, I think the first one is highly implausible given her body language and verbal responses. Answers two and three are rather worrying for someone who has designs on the highest offices of the land. Personally I think the fourth answer is the most likely, but it is also something of a negative mark against her. And rather amusing. Or perhaps I too am "basking in hatred" with such a detailed consideration supported by the evidence available.

On July 04 2009 19:03 evandi wrote:
Probably much longer than 6000 years. But I am open to the possibility that all the scientists are just dead wrong.

On July 04 2009 19:11 Doctorasul wrote:

I am open to the possibility you are a brainwashed lunatic. Hey, I'm just being open minded here, so you can't be offended or that would just confirm my assumption.

On July 04 2009 18:31 evandi wrote:


I don't think what she said implied that she was an expert on foreign policy. So, ya, I was satisfied with her answer.

Which candidate that ran was actually an expert on foreign policy? None of them. They have advisers. You have insanely misguided views on what kinds of "super-creatures" run things.

They excel at getting votes, nothing more. None of them are experts, they rely on their advisers.

On July 04 2009 19:24 Jusciax wrote:

Noone was expecting or looking for expert analysis on foreign policy, but imho you have to do better "Russia is our neighbor" on such important issue. I'm not an expert on governing, but if you're that dense on the issue, then how will you manage to comprehend and evaluate what advisors are advising you. I know government isn't run by super-humans but i'd love that to happen because that's exactly what i expect elected officials to be - far more intelligent and educated than their average voters.

On July 04 2009 19:08 evandi wrote:


Well, actually from her response I think it is obvious that she assumed that Couric was implying at first that as an Alaskan she was probably getting her news from weird Alaskan sources or what-not.

But then she implied that she reads everything. And what do you know, I do too. I read everything the internet provides to me. She gave a similar response. She evidently will read anything.

When asked to name something specific, if she did reply with something specific it wouldn't really mean anything since she already said that she just reads everything and doesn't really have a particular choice... so it came across to me as if it were an insult. To play along would be to validate the question (which did not fit after Palin's previous remarks).